Are joints even worth the effort?

just practice rolling with tobacco, and eventually youll get good at it,

also theres nothing more social than a blunt or a j

 

It's cool, Tommy Chong probably messed up his first joint too haha just practice..or pack bowls.

 

Man, a joint is like having a baby, you gotta make it from scratch, treat it with respect, but show it who's the boss, make a filter (W style works best) put the bud in there, use both of your index and thumb fingers and just give it a pleasant massage and practice, practice, and then practice some more.
There's not enough practice when talking about marijuana, my friend

 

I have a phobia of joints.

heheh. Naw but seriously, when I first started smoking, I had to roll my pot in joints because i had no pipes or bongs like I do now. I thought I knew what I was doing, but god, hell no. I always heard you don't get high the first couple times, so I knew I was alright. I rolled 5 joints from my starting point. (All had 1 gram each=100 bucks) and I only got high from my last joint. I would love to smoke joints, but they're so unappealing to me. I have strawberry papers (YUMMY)

 

if you like them yes i prefere cyclone clear cones

 

Any kind of cardboard works for me, it's not like you're going to eat it!
Just make a W and then roll it around itself.

 

Hey man you're no idiot for being an inept roller! Maybe your calling is just being the best damned bubbler packer your side of the Mississippi!

 

Shitty papers or damp weed

 

Breaking it down with a grinder will make it easier to roll, but from what you said the J was just loose try using a toothpick or something similar and pack it down from the end you'll smoke. Let us know if you try rolling again.

 

There's a million video tutorials, all you have to do is watch one and practice.

 

get a joint roller

 

just make sure its tight, pinch it, twist it a lil. Try and just make it perfect the first time, hold it in ur index and middle finger to load it up, then push it down with a whole finger. roll it

 

I rolled a bad ass joint yesterday lol but Jay's are not very effecient cause you smoke like 50% of the smoke unlike a bowl where you can get anywhere from 70-90% smoke in your lungs. especially if its windy alot of the smokes gets blown away. although J's are way more discreet and dont leave much evidence so I guess its a price you pay

Happy Tok'n​

 

You could try one of those little rolling machines

 

if u really cant roll try this
http://forum.grasscity.com/toking-tools/713544-new-joint-rolling-method.html

or tuck the paper around a crutch before adding weed and then roll slowly. practice by just breaking it open and rolling again. then when its rolled use a metal poke and press it down on the ends.