Hi, new here, hoping someone has an idea of why I had a really bad reaction a long time ago. I don't currently smoke weed, but I used to quite a bit in high school and into my 20s (30 now). When I was 16, I went to a birthday party of a friend of mine. We all had a couple drinks (I definitely was not drunk), and then this guy I had just met, who was a friend of my friend, asked me to go outside to smoke a joint with him. There was no obvious reason not to, so I did. I was always a lightweight, and would feel really paranoid and sleepy if I had too much, so I had about 2 tokes and then tapped out. I stood with him outside while he finished it. I started feeling lightheaded almost immediately, and then the guy started trying to lead me out to the backyard (where nobody else was). I felt uncomfortable, said no, had to keep pushing his hands off me, and try to make my way back in the house. He was pretty insistent that I go with him, but I got back to my friends. I sat on the couch with my girls, and could barely move. My head lolled back onto the couch, and I couldn't lift it or really move my arms and legs. After a while, I asked my friend to get her boyfriend to drive me home, I knew something was really off. I had never felt like this, and it was getting more intense. My friend and her bf drove me home, and basically dropped me on the driveway and took off (I think they were scared of my mom wanting to question them). I had to bang on the door to get someone to let me in, and my mom led me to the couch. As I sat there (no idea how long), I completely lost control of my body. My leg was twitching/jerking on its own and I couldn't feel it, my brother (older) asked me why I was kicking the table. I had no idea I was moving at all when he asked me that. After a while, I needed to use the washroom, and required my mom to come hold me up and even to wipe for me (talk about embarrassing). I don't know what happened next, or remember the car ride, but they took me to the hospital. I remember feeling like I was having a seizure, my arms and legs were all shaking and jerking violently, and I could not control it at all. Someone swaddled me to keep me still and reduce the stress to my muscles. The doctors monitored me, and came to the conclusion that it was not life threatening, so they would not do a tox-screen. I don't know why my mom didn't push for a blood test or something, I guess I didn't clearly explain at the time that some guy had possibly been trying to take advantage of me, I don't know. Anyways, in the days/weeks and now years since, I've had lasting problems. I had significant memory problems immediately following, had fine motor control issues, especially when typing. I still have trouble making lasting memories, and can't remember details that had always been very easy for me to remember. (example: phone numbers, songs and which albums they were from, whether or not I had seen a movie, at what age my child (born long after this incident) achieved certain milestones, and lots more) Phew, sorry for the novel, but I think about this a lot, and wish I knew what might have happened that night. I appreciate any input, my family doctor has always just brushed it off and given me lectures about not doing drugs.
honestly it sounds like the dude put something else in the j in hopes of getting you to do stuff with him. ive never heard of a reaction like that to just weed (unless you were drinking a LOT).
How experienced with weed were you before this incident? Especially maybe high quality weed? It was fishy to me that this guy immediately tried to lead you off somewhere after he smoked the joint with you, as if it may have been laced with something... but then you also mentioned standing out there with him while he finished it. So if there was something else in it, he was smoking it too and apparently didn't experience what you did. The fact that this was years ago and there was no tox-screen done... there's just no way anyone can tell you for sure what happened.
theres a multitude of things it could have been. and we are not allowed to mention said things on this forum. but i would guess a powder that he rolled into the j.
Not that it means that I've never smoked bad weed, but I had definitely smoked really good weed by then, and have again since then. I live in Vancouver, and I smoked with older friends who definitely had high quality. I had bought shitty weed from dealers at school prior to this, and knew the difference. I don't think I was a pro, but I knew what my limit should be, and I was careful. It's really strange to me, looking back to think about how he handled it when I couldn't, I don't know how to explain that. Maybe he didn't finish it all, maybe I just thought he did, it was a long time ago. I don't expect anyone to be able to say for sure what it was, but does anyone know of similar reactions?
Ok, didn't realize it wasn't allowed to mention other substances. Sorry for my newbishness, thanks for the replies
even if it was the worst smokable thing i can think of, it wont effect you down the road. good thing you only took 2 hits and went home tho. could have gone quite bad if you were not smart about it. youll never know for sure but it doesnt really matter (health wise) since it was so long ago.
Well, this is 15 years down the road, and it IS still affecting me. I still have memory problems, I have great difficulty in remembering things that normal people can. I know I'm lucky, and it could've been worse, but, damn, I wish I could find out who that guy was and ask him. There's no chance he'd tell me, if it was anything shady, obviously, but it fucked with my brain long term.
You look eerily like a girl I doubted for two years. The purple hair, the haircut. Have you gone to the doctor recently to try and diagnose these problems? Maybe it has nothing to do with what happened. Correction, that I dated*
Just going over this with the hubby again, and he has a very plausible scenario. I don't know why I never thought of this, but that the guy may have slipped something in my drink ahead of time (I can't remember who gave out drinks). Perhaps the guy knew when it would kick in, and the joint was just an excuse to get me to another area. Fuck, that makes so much sense, I feel like an idiot that I never thought of it. Well, thanks for being the venue for me to figure this shit out in my head... *sigh* I guess I was lucky, and I'm thankful that I knew to get the fuck back to my friends.
Hehe, wasn't me, I've only had my hair like this for the past few months, and I've been married for 3 years. I did go to the dr after it happened, and he monitored my issues for a while, and decided they weren't significant. Maybe I should go see someone again, but lingering memory problems just seem like such a difficult thing to get other people to understand. Friends and family never really get it.
Cool to see another Vancouverite on here I've never seen or heard anyone losing control of their body before, but have heard of long term mental effects (short term memory, anxiety, racing thought, derealization) after having a marijuana induced panic attack. This doesn't sound like a panic attack though. Comparing before and after this happened, did it affect your "inner voice" at all? How about your social skills? Are you able to hold conversations? Omega369
Wooo Vancouver! Usually when I would smoke too much, I would get itchy, paranoid, and really sleepy, definitely never lost control of my body. This situation was unlike anything I'd experienced before. Not sure if you mean inner voice as in how I think of myself and talk to myself, or more literally of how it sounds inside my head. Don't really want to explain it here, but I have experienced changes in my inner voice that have been pretty negative, but I didn't directly link it to this. I have social anxiety, and don't enjoy conversations in person, I get really uncomfortable and speak too quickly, stumble over my words. I had always been shy, but this is different than my childhood shyness.
I get that they might not be related. Aging, having kids, and everything over the years can have an effect on you, but these symptoms started after that night. They've continued, and aren't in line with regular memory changes of friends and parents I know.
But how old were you on that night? How old are you now? Of course I'm sure that night caused you a lot of anxiety, but the everlasting effects could have been entirely unrelated. Also could be some sort of PTSD because of being anxious about that night and it's possible lasting effects. I also suffer from social anxiety. I know exactly what you mean when you talk about being uncomfortable, speaking too quickly, stumbling over your words. Story of my life. If I had smoked some *possibly* laced weed during my formative years, it would have been easy to blame it on that. But I didn't, and I still go through the same things. My memory is shit too if that's any consolation. Have you seen a therapist to talk about any psychological effects you feel that situation may have had, regardless of whether the joint was laced or not?
I was 16 then, I'm 30 now. The night itself didn't cause me a lot of anxiety, if anything I was really pissed off that my friends and family didn't have my back more, and figure out what was done to me/happened to me. I wasn't scared or traumatized, I did continue to smoke, but only with friends that I knew I could trust completely. I was mad that the emerg dr basically wagged his finger at me for putting myself in that situation (shaming the victim), but I didn't change my life because of that. I've never blamed social anxiety on smoking laced weed, I had never put those things together until right now. I figured it was just regular evolution of my personality because of life. I don't feel like I need to attribute my problems with that night, I was only listing them and explaining anything I was asked, to give the most details, and have the greatest chance someone could recognize my possible symptoms. No, never seen a therapist, not against it, just haven't.