Trying to figure out where I'm going wrong. Am I deficient or over saturated with nutes. I pulled this leaf and a few others from directly below canopy line. She's planted in FFOF, from seed thru flower. All thru veg I was strictly organic feeding with Gaia Green All purpose 4-4-4 and Power Bloom. But when she came into flower I decided to go with Fox Farm Trio Bottled Nutes. I Mix the nutes according to the feeding schedule but added with the Dutch Science water soluable Cal-Mag which is 430 PPM in distilled water , the entire nutrient solution comes out to over 2500 PPM, so I dilute with more distilled water in another jug until I get a reading between 1000-1200 PPM. I feed approx 2 times a week and water with cal-Mag with every watering. I fed 1200 PPM 2 days ago. Today i watered with Cal-mag and distilled water which was 430 PPM. The readings you see in the picture of my Blue Labs Guardian are the current runoff readings. Any insight. Any issues with my methods that jump out at you, please let me know. I'm not sure of it's a potassium deficiency, a cal-mag deficiency, or if I'm becoming locked out. Sent from my SM-F916U using Grasscity Forum mobile app
that tiger bloom all but killed my white widows at 800 ppm also distilled water is not something to use on plants at all IMO go with the feeling of toxicity are you in soil or hydro?
nothing worse than watching a plant that big fade before your eyes after spending so much time and effort and believe me if the sugar leaves start getting crispy you will have zero bag appeal or smell no matter how you cure trust me i screwed up a few grows by simply being locked out or overfed couldnt give the stuff away you can try a flush
i work in ec but your ppm out is kinda high. is there a reason for the distilled water? also whats the ph you put in? thats more important than the run off ph. way more important IMO. also from a logic perspective, you fed at 1200 and 1110 came out, so either the plants ate the difference or you have to much in you soil thats not getting eaten. as the leaf has no regularity to the pattern, i.e. deficiencies tend to have some symmetry to them, apart from micros really, i would suggest over fert and soil lockout. just imo. all the best
Sorry, my grasscity app wasn't updating posts for some reason. But yeah. It's 70/30 FFOF/Perlite. But here's where I'm at... say I feed 1000ppm today thru dry medium and water until runoff and test it as it comes out then I'm mostly testing the water I just fed, plus or minus the PPM that came out from the soil. So say my nutes are at 1000ppm, I feed and then 2-3 days later , I water with straight water with a 0 ppm plus cal mag which brings it to 400ppm. I water and my runoff is 1000ppm. Wouldn't that mean that since the last feeding, the plant used 400ppm from the 1000 ppm.3 days prior? Wouldn't it be around 1400ppm? ,( 1000ppm from last feeding and 400ppm from cal/mag h20) if the plant was locked out and not eating? This has always confused the shit out of me and I can never get a solid answer lol so my thinking, and maybe I'm wrong. But my thinking is, I fed her 1000ppm 3 days ago, I fed with 400ppm h20 today, but runoff is still at 1000ppm, so she ate 400ppm since last feeding because if she hadn't, the 1000ppm would still be there and then I added 400ppm on top of it. Sorry so Long, if yall have a sure fire way of measuring nutes please teach me all you know lol I have a great meter , I just don't know the best way to utilize it Sent from my SM-F916U using Grasscity Forum mobile app
I don't pay attention to run off any more unless you are growing in coco DTW. PPM sounds pretty high to me but I would PH your feed to 6.5 and just worry about what you are putting in not what is coming out. If you want to test it take a shot glass of your soil from pot and mix in a shot glass of distilled water and check it. As long as it's not over 400 ppm it should be ok I like to see 350 when checking mine. PH 6.5 should be ok in your soil. Then go from there to know what to do. Good luck they look ok to me.
Have you grown organic? If so, another thing that confuses me is the PPM of organic soil. I started in FFOF, amended with Gaia Green All Purpose and Power Bloom, all the way thru veg into early flower. At that point I noticed a nitrogen deficiency and I thought, I have came so far with amazing results thru LST and Super Cropping, and this plant is a performer. I really didn't want to gamble with amending too late or too early because it takes a hot minute for the enzymes and biosphere to break down the organic matter and make it accessible for the plant. So for about 3 feedings I gave her fox farm Trio and that's when the PPM was about 600 before watering/feeding. But I decided to brew some Roots Organics Terp Tea. I didn't ph because I read that the microbes create their optimum ph during brewing. I fed the plant and my runoff ppm was 2300 ppm! So, my question is , organic living soil seems to be insane with ppm, should I flush it? Or is it picking up all the solids , even ones that aren't accessible by the plant? Sent from my SM-F916U using Grasscity Forum mobile app