Another Tincture Thread - Try it, You'll like it

Steel cut oats, weeks worth
Here is just a small example of the syrup's different uses, very easy
Adding the infused syrup to some apple compote and adding that to the oatmeal
Infused breakfast, brunch or lunch
Thanks to the cinnamon, nutmeg, allspice, and ginger added to the apple compote (homemade gala/grannie smith apples) little to no cannabis taste
Also in the picture is some blueberry puree
Between the apple compote and pureed blueberries I can just add the infused syrup to those two products and make sorbet, fruit pops or hand pies with a little prep
.........or I could leave it all and just do single serve mixes into oatmeal, yogurt, smoothie, cream of wheat

 

I will post pics on the next run but my first stage filtering has husks and sediment in the bottom of the pyrex jug and im sure a little plant material also Its cloudy. All of that goes into the aeropress though I don't try to separate the sediment from the alcohol when filtering

Its surprising just how good the aeropress is at filtering this out though. I run it through the aero twice. Even after the first pass the extraction is completely clean.

The first time around I have to use the plunger to get everything filtered through. The second run it just filters through its self without having to use the plunger. I'm still yet to see any sign of contaminants on the second filter pass which tells me that once is suffice, but I do it twice just to make sure because why not.

 

Thanks, I enjoy my stainless steel filter and get great results but if I can compare and improve, why not?
I use PES (membrane) filtering in stage 2 of a 4 stage process, if I can do better in stage 1 then I can limit or eliminate the later stages
My chocolates, peach sorbet, and lemonade will probably always need the later stage filtering (carbon and celite) for my personal taste but most folks don't need that amount of filtering, I just need to eliminate as much or all of it

 

I think you are absolutely right about using sonication in your processing
It is used widely in commercial processing
From what little I can understand the breaking down of the cell walls will make compounds readily available for extraction like you stated some time ago, think it was a post of yours in the medical section


This is lab and just a silly example of overkill
When you mentioned it and I started looking, amazed at what you had researched

 

Sort of best of both worlds
Helps breakdown for compound availability in extraction but can aid later in emulsification of the same extraction
Am I in the ballpark?

 

So, today I decided to give a try to make concentrated tincture without evaporating any alcohol, only by using 1 gram of weed.
The suggested ratio is 58ml for every 7 grams - 8ml of alcohol per gram weed (rounded it up, actually you will need a little more of 8m).

Today I got some lemon haze - it looks and smells pretty nice.


So I just followed the recipe as suggested with few changes.

1. Decarb as suggested - 240F for 40mins. I break up the buds to small chunks - I don’t know if this is needed, but I do it always.

2. When you are done decarbing, put the weed in a small bag (spacebag for example), put it in the freezer for 10mins so it cools off.
After 10mins in the freezer, take the bag and run a roller on top of it. Shake the bag from time to time. The goal is to grind your weed to powder as good as possible!



The small chunks you see on the photo are just powdered weed which are sticking together, but they are powdered as well.

This is the best method IMO - better than coffeegrinder for example. This will reduce the volume of the weed, so you can use 8ml of alcohol to make your tincture.

Use 8ml of alcohol and shake it aggressively or just keep it stirring for couple of minutes.
Don’t use coffee filters or cheese clothes as the amount of alcohol is very low... coffee filter will make it even less absorbing some of your material.
I used a glass - mixed 5ml of alcohol with the 1 gram powdered buds and kept stirring for couple of minutes.

Keep the glass to an angle like that:

Roll the glass so that the alcohol replaces - keep the powder on place by holding it with the holder of a small spoon for example in order to achieve this:


Suck the alcohol with a dropper and leave the dust on bottom.

I used 5ml of alcohol and I got 3-4ml of GD back, so I did a second wash with additional 2-3 ml of alcohol.
Finally I got 5ml dropper full with GD without evaporating any alcohol.


You will see some dust in the dropper - the filtering is not optimal, so it won’t look clear and fancy as it must be, but it works damn well! I just tried it and it works just as well as the other tinctures I had.
I guess if you use bigger quantities like it’s suggested in the original recipe - 7 grams for 2 oz of GD, you can grind the buds to powder and use 1 oz for the first wash and second oz for a second wash. As the powder will absorb some of the alcohol, you will got a little less than 2oz GD, but you can always decide to make a third was and or evaporate some of the final product. I do this to save my grain alcohol as it’s more expensive than the weed haha.
The only thing I am not sure about is if this is enough to was all of the good stuff out from the weed, but I assume it does as the tincture works very well.
Hope this helps!

Small edit: I used one full dropper (equals 0.1gr) with the hash tincture and it was enough. From the powdered bud I doubled the dose - I am very well smashed... very uplifting, talkative... laughing at nothing at all! It seems like it took a little bit longer till it starts to work, but I am not sure if this has something to do with the tincture.
This means I have 6 doses in this 5ml dropper made from 1 gram powdered buds. Keep in mind I have low tolerance - I quit smoking 2 years ago and I use only capsules, oils and tinctures. The dose might differ to you.

2 years ago when I still smoked I had huge tolerance. Since I quit
smoking my tolerance is the same, although I use caps/oils/tinctures daily. I keep taking 1 dose in the evening - nothing more, nothing less.

I start to think that smoking cannabis is fast, but not the “proper” way to use cannabis - if I can call it like that. I smoked for 10 years and I know how it tastes and I really enjoyed the social part of it - smoking with friends and so on, but you end up building tolerance and abusing it - as I did. I considered my self a heavy smoker - maybe for some of you it’s nothing haha, but smoking 2 grams every day was how I smoked and I didn’t even get stoned back then. Long story short - I had a long surgery and I was in hospital for 5 weeks - that was my tolerance break. After 5 sober weeks, I still don’t smoke and I use only capsules and tinctures and my tolerance keep staying low! Also... I am way more wasted from tinctures/caps than I ever was after smoking... even in the early days haha. The only real “issue” is to find your dose.
2 full droppers are a little bit too much I think... tomorrow will keep it by 1 haha.
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Nice demo
The alcohol preservation is a priority for a lot of folks
Access or cost can be the driving factor on whether or not someone tries it
Aesthetics are not important and filtering for a small amount is not important unless it is to clean the tincture for a particular use (like a spray bottle)

 

True that. I don’t know if this is concentrated enough for the most of you, but 2 full droppers are too much for me, so I guess 1 will do the job. It’s perfect for my needs.
It worth trying just 1 gram and 8ml grain alcohol haha.
Will 151 proof alcohol produce the same strong tincture? It will reduce the burn which is probably not healthy if I understood it well.


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Good to know. When my grain alcohol is finished, I will purchase 151 vodka or rum.


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2 full droppers were a little bit too much for me - I can handle the effects, but it was stronger than I expected. 4 hours later I was still wasted.

7 hours later I used 1 dropper just to be sure this is the right dose and yes... it is. I feel really nice head high, not too strong, but definitely good strong high. I use it just as mouthwash with 1 teaspoon of tea - it tastes great. It starts working within 20-25 mins.

I will try some indica strains as well just to see if there is any difference. I already purchased 151 proof rum called STROH so I am curious how this will take out.

It’s small 100ml bottle, so I guess I will infuse the whole bottle with 20grams of shake from amnesia haze.

Can 160 proof alcohol do any damage when using sublingual? Or as long as I do it as “mouthwash”, this won’t be a problem ?
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Hey Sam, going to devote the weekend to TLC
Got a little obsessed with pipette sample procedure
Just jumping in, like the video, hands on practical experience is the best teacher in absence of the real thing

Hit a bit of a wall with the cannalytics solvent
Need to refine or rephrase my search
Probably end up back in the research articles from Israel, Mexico and Canada

Going to try a sous vide of some vaped flower at 82c (180f) for twelve hours and then perform a cold extraction
Hoping the vape tincture runs on the sleepy/pain relief side

 

Another good find for me from Sam's page! So, @PsychedelicSam I made about 3oz of shake into a tincture, following your green dragon recipe we've discussed a few times, I'm actually cooking it down right now. I always forget you're guide for cooking it down but I figure I can get this 32oz of infused alc. down to about 8oz of tincture. 3+oz of shake into a 8oz tincture sure is potent, for me at least. Anyways, Do you think mixing this into about 34-36oz of honey will suffice? I usually make about 70 doses out of an ounces with my edibles so that would mean an equivalent dose of honey would be a little under a teaspoon.
Basically I'm asking because making honey seems too easy and, I guess, I'm seeking reassurance that I am not being over confident about my approach Sooooo or ?

Thanks for all the great resources btw. I was looking for the cannasugar recipe I thought I saw on your thread before but then saw this and am thinking "hmmm, honey, why not?"