ANOTHER school shooting

Discussion in 'General' started by tonyhimselff, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. its a cold world out there
     
  2. You mean like how the '94 gun ban stopped Columbine...o wait
     

  3. Feinstein and Obama -.-
     
  4. According to a Dec. 27th posting on Sen. Feinstein’s website and a draft of the bill obtained by NRA-ILA, the new ban would, among other things, adopt new definitions of “assault weapon” that would affect a much larger variety of firearms, require current owners of such firearms to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act, and require forfeiture of the firearms upon the deaths of their current owners. Some of the changes in Feinstein’s new bill are as follows:

    Reduces, from two to one, the number of permitted external features on various firearms. The 1994 ban permitted various firearms to be manufactured only if they were assembled with no more than one feature listed in the law. Feinstein’s new bill would prohibit the manufacture of the same firearms with even one of the features.

    Adopts new lists of prohibited external features. For example, whereas the 1994 ban applied to a rifle or shotgun the “pistol grip” of which “protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,” the new bill would drastically expand the definition to include any “grip . . . or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.” Also, the new bill adds “forward grip” to the list of prohibiting features for rifles, defining it as “a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.” Read literally and in conjunction with the reduction from two features to one, the new language would apply to every detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle. At a minimum, it would, for example, ban all models of the AR-15, even those developed for compliance with California’s highly restrictive ban.

    Carries hyperbole further than the 1994 ban. Feinstein’s 1994 ban listed “grenade launcher” as one of the prohibiting features for rifles. Her 2013 bill goes even further into the ridiculous, by also listing “rocket launcher.” Such devices are restricted under the National Firearms Act and, obviously, are not standard components of the firearms Feinstein wants to ban. Perhaps a subsequent Feinstein bill will add “nuclear bomb,” “particle beam weapon,” or something else equally far-fetched to the features list.

    Expands the definition of “assault weapon” by including:–Three very popular rifles: The M1 Carbine (introduced in 1941 and for many years sold by the federal government to individuals involved in marksmanship competition), a model of the Ruger Mini-14, and most or all models of the SKS.–Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” except for tubular-magazine .22s.
    –Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches,” any “semiautomatic handgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” and any semi-automatic handgun that has a threaded barrel.

    Requires owners of existing “assault weapons” to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The NFA imposes a $200 transfer tax per firearm, and requires an owner to submit photographs and fingerprints to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), to inform the BATFE of the address where the firearm will be kept, and to obtain the BATFE’s permission to transport the firearm across state lines.
    Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government.

    Prohibits the domestic manufacture and the importation of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The 1994 ban allowed the importation of such magazines that were manufactured before the ban took effect. Whereas the 1994 ban protected gun owners from errant prosecution by making the government prove when a magazine was made, the new ban includes no such protection. The new ban also requires firearm dealers to certify the date of manufacture of any >10-round magazine sold, a virtually impossible task, given that virtually no magazines are stamped with their date of manufacture.

    Targets handguns in defiance of the Supreme Court. The Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects the right to have handguns for self-defense, in large part on the basis of the fact handguns are the type of firearm “overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose.” Semi-automatic pistols, which are the most popular handguns today, are designed to use detachable magazines, and the magazines “overwhelmingly chosen” by Americans for self-defense are those that hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, Feinstein’s list of nearly 1,000 firearms exempted by name (see next paragraph) contains not a single handgun. Sen. Feinstein advocated banning handguns before being elected to the Senate, though she carried a handgun for her own personal protection.

    Contains a larger piece of window dressing than the 1994 ban. Whereas the 1994 ban included a list of approximately 600 rifles and shotguns exempted from the ban by name, the new bill’s list is increased to nearly 1,000 rifles and shotguns. But most of the guns on the list either wouldn’t be banned in the first place, or would already be exempted by other provisions. On the other hand, the list inevitably misses every model of rifle and shotgun that wasn’t being manufactured or imported in the years covered by the reference books Sen. Feinstein’s staff consulted. That means an unknown number of absolutely conventional semi-auto rifles and shotguns, many of them out of production for decades, would be banned under the draft bill.


    Read more: Feinstein's New Gun-Ban Bill Likely to be Introduced January 22 | The Daily Caller

    Edit: Much better formatted on the website.
     
  5. Honestly the media always says that the guns are at fault but no one ever looks at the medication the people are on most of he people who commit these heinous acts are on anti depresants or something. Its a possibility, but the media wont even think about it.
     

  6. Of course not. The guns don't make them any money compared to the pharmaceutical industry.
     
  7. inb4 gun control conspiracy.
     

  8. You're four pages too late lol.
     
  9. Good point. God forbid we ban the biggest market in this entire country, the pharmaceutical companies, to stop providing such ridiculous medications......there were no anti depressants back in the 70's
     
  10. ok heres my idea bullet proof backpacks! or you get a free bullet proof vest straight out the womb
     

  11. Weren't some schools or something already selling these? I thought I hear it in the news.
     
  12. yea lets arm teachers...waiting for a danger that will probably never come.
    Plus, if you arm them, that leaves the opportunity for the gun to get into one of the students hands.

    These isolated incidents are receiving far too much attention and instead of trying to correct a problem that would never be able to be regulated and solved, punish the psychos who commit such acts to the fullest extent of the law.
     
  13. You're*
     
  14. It doesn't seem like anything will really happen, except that gun show loop will be closed...and well that's no big deal. Also probably "ar" style tactical semi auto rifles etc will be harder to get..meaning we'll need to go through some bull shit to get em...which sucks but its really not a big deal. Other than that if you want to go buy a 45 or shot gun or a badass hunting rifle as long as you're not a felon you should be straight.
     
  15. Lmfao at Feinstein trying to ban all handguns even though she carries one for protection.
    All she wants to do is make a name for herself
     
  16. Arm the children
     
  17. at least tell them they're playing with no respawn.
     
  18. Oh lord...

    I choose to believe that was just a joke, I really hope so :D
     

  19. Just was sayien this to my buddy the other day, I think it is a good idea. A lot have argued that if you are seeing a psychiatrist for relationship or work issues, then get a gun then get an exam, and fail due to external stimuli such as girlfriend or work, that it isn't fair, yet seems like that is potentially preventing some guy from loosing his cool and pop pop popping someone one to a one way morgue tour.
     
  20. I laughed...alot
     

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