Another pot question.. I know. Just help me please :(

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Indoors' started by zq8s10, Aug 30, 2012.

  1. Okay.. before I started my current grow I was told that 3 gallon pots would be fine for a 30 day veg.. So i have a 4x4 tent with a 1000 watt hps and ordered what I thought was 3 gallon pots. after I started and have everything underway I find out the pots are 2.25 gallon pots and Im being told that wont be enough ..

    My goal is a lbs total. I have 11 plants. So I just ruffly need to avg 1.45ish oz per plant. Will the extra .75 gallons really make or break it? Does my goals seem too high? I only plan on a 30-35 day veg and flower from there under the big kahuna 1000w.

    Im in ffof soil and using tigerbloom with the 3 stage fox farm additives ( open sesame, beastie bloomz, and cha ching). Do I really need to transplant all of them to 4 gallon pots? Search my thread and you can see the whole setup as well as pics from tonight. .
     
  2. In the past we have experienced similar final results using 1 gallon and 3 gallon pots but with slightly shorter veg times than you(bout 3 weeks from roots sprouting from clones). The smaller pots need to be fed more often is the only difference. I would say you will see no difference between 2.25 and 3 gal pots
     
  3. thanks for the reply.. this was my thoughts on it as well .. Ive read that it takes a while for a plant to actually come rootbound.. The 2.25 gallon pots seem to be maybe 1-2" taller and wider.. just didnt see that being much more effective..
     

  4. plants being root-bound is a very sticky subject. to me, root-bound simply means the plant is no longer able to produce roots on a large scale, due to a lack of room/medium, that's all. as long as all of the plants nutritional/environmental needs are met, there should be no problems with the plant. so if you begin to see issues on the leaves, like some sort of def., it's not because the plant is, "root-bound," it's because of some other issue, like ph or something along those lines.....
     
  5. #5 xDisciplex, Sep 2, 2012
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    Itll be fine.Everyone says 1 gallon per foot,but I disagree.1/2 gal per foot at best is needed IMO.

    I've never had any plant larger then supposidly rated for the pot be rootbound.
     
  6. #6 Greydayz, Sep 2, 2012
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    definition - Root bound refers to a condition of plant in a container (or super hard soil) where the roots can not spread out for healthy growth. When a plant is root bound the top of the plant will be stunted and it may not flower as well. a last grow had this exact thing happen to them, sucks.
    I googled the definition, theres probably more to it than that but ya..
     
  7. I would use the 3 g for veg and use 7 gallon for fruiting. Bud gets bigger and there is more ever where.
     
  8. You will be fine for the short veg time....I use 2 gallon pots sometimes with 6-8 weeks veg and had no problem getting root bound.....After saying that. If I had a choice I would have gone with 3 gallon pots......
     
  9. 3/4 of a gallon isn't much? It's a third smaller. The difference over 10 or 12 plants is quite substantial IMO. Bigger is better and you should have no problem pulling a pound. You should get at least a oz per square foot of canopy with a 1000 burning. Good luck.
     
  10. #10 zq8s10, Sep 7, 2012
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    Honestly my goal is just a lbs this grow. If I can get an avg of 1.4oz per plant Ill get a pound. Does this seem unreal? 2.25gal pots filled with ffof. 34 days veg today.. topped them all about 2 weeks ago.. and just switched to 12/12 to finish. using tiger bloom with the open sesame, beastie bloomz, and cha ching. Theres 11 plants. 2 purple wrecks, 5 ch9 commercialz, a blueberry, sour jack, and 2 blue widows.

    see my new journal not in sig. just search my threads
     

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  11. It might be possible with 11 plant but it will be close. I would use bigger pots and veg a bit longer.
     
  12. You should have no problem getting a pound.
     
  13. I think the 4 x 4 tent is a little small for 1000w of light. For a light that size, 4 x 4 is the optimum light coverage area.. But the tent should be slightly larger than the optimum light coverage area you are using. That way you will have a little bit more room around the sides for air circulation, you won't be cramming everything in as close as possible, and you'll get a bit more bud production from the extra square footage. The stuff around the edges won't be as productive and will be less dense than the bud that's within the center 4 x 4 area, but it will make a significant increase in final yield.

    I used a 5' x 5' tent with a single 600w hps and yielded just over a pound with 12 plants. I used 5 gallon containers for each plant.

    As far as your pot size is concerned.. since you already switched to flowering, you shouldn't transplant into larger pots. If your plants do get a little rootbound, the only thing that will happen is you will have to water a little more frequently. If the plants are significantly rootbound, thats when you will run into problems. But by the sound of how old your plants are, I don't think you will have a problem with 2.25 gallon pots. If you end up having to water your plants everyday or every other day, then on your next grow, you know to use larger pots. I would give the plants at least a week after transplanting into larger pots before switching into flowering. Never transplant during flowering.
     

  14. i do it every time i grow with no ill effects. usually don't even geta droop.
     
  15. I think 4x4 is perfect for a 1000 if you can keep your temp down. I used a 1000 in a 3x4 closet and it worked awesome. I was pulling a pound outa that space every two months. I had 12 plants in two and 3 gallon pots.
     
  16. well just after one day after feeding and switching the lights the girls look bigger already. And yeah the 1000w is awesome with a 4x4. I have the big kahuna reflector and even with that the light has to be dead center to cover the whole area with bright light. I spin the pots every day and rotate every watering too just in case.

    The growth from last night to tonight is amazing for that short of time. I litterly had to spread them out some and center the hood up right to get then covered well. And running the ligbts at night with a/c in the room helps pull temps between 78 and 80.. Thats with the sealed hood and 2 477cfm fans..

    im double posting this to my journal because of the details and I dont feel like posting the same thing over
     
  17. Hate to start a new thread so im going a little off topic since this thread is getting attention... I bout the. larger 6" carbon filter from htg and it hasnt worked since I had it.. and it has small beads that will fall out if you flip it upside down.. Im thinkin I just got a bad filter but would hate to purchase another one and it not work either..
     
  18. Can help you with the filter. I don't run one. What makes you think it's not working? Ate you still getting smell if pot. It might be too small for the Cfm you fan creates,
     
  19. See.. a pound for 1000w really isn't a very good yield. It is OKAY.

    Sure, the entire 4 x 4 area will be filled with bright light, and beyond that area, light won't be that brilliant bright.. but trust me.. you need the extra space inside a tent to get the best yield for the wattage.

    It would be different outside of a tent.. you would want to put a 1000 watt bulb for every 4' x 4' area of grow space. This way if you have more than one bulb, then the light from one bulb overlaps the 4 x 4 area of the bulb next to it... you get less shadowed spots on the plants and a much better light coverage everywhere.

    When doing 1 bulb per tent.. always go a bit bigger. For instance, 4 x 4 would be alright with a 600w bulb, whereas outside a tent, you would want a 600w bulb for every 3'x3' area.

    Sorry to hear about the bum filter.. whats wrong with it?
     
  20. [quote name='"clonezone"']

    See.. a pound for 1000w really isn't a very good yield. It is OKAY.

    Pulling a pound outa a 12 square foot space is pretty good. You can do the same thing with a six hundred but if you have a 1000 then that's what you use. I don't think you could do much better then that. My whole closet was nothing but bud. I tried growing 2 plants 6 plants and 12 plants and got the same results. I got about 18 oz every time. So that's about 42 grams per square foot of canopy. Yes it was a little wasteful on power but that's what I had at the time. I have upgraded my setup now so that's in the past.
     

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