"An Inconvenient Truth"

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by AK Infinity, Jun 11, 2006.

  1. PARIS, France (AP) -- The words of warning about global warming from the top panel of international scientists Friday were purposely blunt: "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal," the cause is "very likely" man-made, and "would continue for centuries."

    Officially releasing a 21-page report in Paris on the hows and the what of global warming -- though not telling the world what to do about it -- the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change gave a bleak observation of what is happening now and an even more dire prediction for the future.

    "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global mean sea level," the report said. (New report says global warming is real[​IMG])

    The head of the panel, Indian climatologist Rajendra Pachauri, called it a "very impressive document that goes several steps beyond previous research."
    A senior U.S. government scientist, Susan Solomon, said as the report was released, "There can be no question that the increase in greenhouse gases are dominated by human activities."

    The report said man-made emissions of greenhouse gases can already be blamed for these current problems: fewer cold days, hotter nights, killer heat waves, floods and heavy rains, devastating droughts, and an increase in hurricane and tropical storm strength (particularly in the Atlantic Ocean).

    And if you think it is bad now, the harmful effects during the 21st century "would very likely be larger than those observed during the 20th century," the report said.

    The panel predicted temperature rises of 1.1 to 6.4 C (2-11.5 F) by the year 2100. That was a wider range than in the 2001 report. However, the panel also said its best estimate was for temperature rises of 1.8 to 4 C (3.2-7.1 F).

    On sea levels, the report projects rises of 7-23 inches (18-58 centimeters) by the end of the century. An additional 3.9-7.8 inches (10-20 centimeters) are possible if recent, surprising melting of polar ice sheets continues. (Watch how rising sea levels could affect San Francisco[​IMG])

    And the report said no matter how much civilization slows or reduces its greenhouse gas emissions, global warming and sea level rise will continue on for centuries.
    "This is just not something you can stop. We're just going to have to live with it," co-author Kevin Trenberth, director of climate analysis for the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, said in an interview. "We're creating a different planet. If you were to come up back in 100 years time, we'll have a different climate."

    Scientists do worry that world leaders will take that message in the wrong way and throw up their hands, Trenberth said. That would be wrong, he said. Instead, the scientists urged leaders to reduce emissions and also adapt to a warmer world with wilder weather.

    "The point here is to highlight what will happen if we don't do something and what will happen if we do something," co-author Jonathan Overpeck at University of Arizona said. "I can tell if you will decide not to do something the impacts will be much larger than if we do something."

    "You make a difference on hundred of years time frame, but this is the future of the planet," Trenberth told The Associated Press. "We have to adapt to it."

    Trenberth said the world is paying more attention to scientists now than in previous warnings in 1990, 1995 and 2001. "The tension is more now," he said.

    The head of the U.S. delegation, White House associate science adviser Sharon Hays, called the panel's summary "a significant report. It will be valuable to policy makers."

    Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
  2. I love Al Gore, I would go gay for that man.
  3. aight.... get blown away: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zetainfo16sep05.shtml

    yeah, the bbc was bleepin on the box about the UN or some lofty officaldom peeps who had selected a group of official who confirmed it, so that means it prooves it... or so i heard.

    make yer own reality, go buy a solar pannel or two, with the money you save, buy a zero point energy machine, with the money you make build/buy space travel capable technology, with the resources you discover and the money you make, build a port on a desolate nomadic planet, with your ever abundant resources develope a plant to make a new star, one you can modulate and control like with a thermostat for your nomadic planet. and uhh... wait what was this thread about... oh ya,.... this planet. clean it up you mucky children.
  4. Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' Wins Documentary Oscar<O:p</O:p
    <O:p</O:pMon Feb 26, 2007 9:42 AM IST
    By Steve Gorman<O:p</O:p
    LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - "An Inconvenient Truth," the big-screen adaptation of former U.S. Vice President Al Gore's slide-show lecture about the perils of global warming, won the Academy Award on Sunday for documentary feature.

    <O:p</O:pThe award went to director Davis Guggenheim and producers Lawrence Bender ("Pulp Fiction") and Laurie David, the environmentalist wife of "Seinfeld" co-creator Larry David.

    <O:p</O:pBut the film marked a personal triumph for Gore, the 2000 Democratic presidential nominee who left politics after narrowly losing his White House bid to Republican George W. Bush and embarked on a new campaign calling attention to the threat of climate change.

    <O:p</O:p"My fellow Americans, people all over the world, we need to solve the climate crisis," Gore said after taking the stage.

    <O:p</O:p"It's not a political issue, it's a moral issue. We have everything we need to get started with the possible exception of the will to act. That's a renewable resource. Let's renew it."

    Gore is the star and narrator of the documentary, which is widely credited with helping shift U.S. </ST1:ppublic opinion on the need for urgent action to curb man-made emissions of greenhouse gases linked to global warming.

    <O:p</O:pDirector Guggenheim handed Gore the Oscar and told the audience the movie was made "because we were moved to act by this man".

    <O:p</O:pGORE IN SPOTLIGHT<O:p</O:p
    The Oscar win helps raise Gore's public profile as many of his fellow Democrats are beginning to jostle for their party's nomination for president next year, though the former vice president under Bill Clinton has repeatedly said he has no plans to run again in 2008.

    <O:p</O:pThe film has topped $45 million at the box office worldwide and sold 1 million DVDs. With $24 million in U.S. ticket sales alone, it ranks as the nation's third-highest-grossing documentary ever, excluding concert films and Imax movies -- behind "Fahrenheit 9/11" and "March of the Penguins."

    <O:p</O:pThe book version of "An Inconvenient Truth" was published last year as a follow-up to Gore's 1992 bestseller "Earth in the Balance."

    <O:p</O:pAlso nominated this year for best documentary were "Deliver Us from Evil," about a pedophile priest, "Jesus Camp," exploring efforts to instill evangelical Christians in children, and two films about the war in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com[​IMG]</st1:date>
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    © Reuters 2007. All Rights Reserved.<O:p</O:p
  5. just read your sig there mr AK,
    i havn't had such a sincere laugh for soooo long. could it be more wrong? :D:p:laughing::rolleyes::cool::p:D:love::):p :wave::laughing::D;)
  6. Nah, it ain't wrong, what's wrong is the fact that people don't actually seek joy, they seek what they believe will fulfill them and call it "joy," the result...

    ...my sig.

    Stay green Digit man!
  7. Yeah, I'd say the sig is pretty accurate. It doesn't apply to everyone of course, but it does to many.

  8. seek joy? maybe.

    make and give, create and share joy? yes.

    allow, accept, receive joy.

    seek honesty, and the rest fits into place, with a little patience.
  9. "seek joy? maybe."


    Semantics + seeking = "make and give, create and share joy? yes. allow, accept, receive joy. seek honesty, and the rest fits into place, with a little patience."


    More often than not, when people are miscommunicating they're essentially saying the same thing just phrased and felt differently. We don’t create we manipulate forces that were in place well before we decided to be born. IMHO the idea of creation is more a function of ego than of fact.

    How would we know what love is unless it weren’t possible throughout the cosmos? We were given some elements that when properly placed constitute “joy,” elements that are readily available throughout all of space-time. Joy is a riddle given to us lovingly spelled backwards [yoj]. The kind of nut you have to have heart to crack. So I guess I say humble man go conquer the elements if it means there’s some love buried underneath everything.

    Much love from the nexus.

    [As a boy, he would stare off into the night sky and dream. Blissfully unaware of what he would become…]

    Stay green.
  10. Here's another 1984 quote:

    /though, I have to say that I like yours better :)
  11. Just popping in to say I finally got around to watching this on friday night- I found it very well done.

    Obviously we have already altered our planets course- but I feel as though we can start making the necessary changes to slow/hault our contribution of CO2 into the atmosphere.

    It's sad thinking what we are doing- and how so many people in government can sit around and do nothing is ridiculous.

    But it's even more ridiculous how many people have not taken the steps already given to them to start lowering their carbon footprint.
  12. yes yes, its terrible, the proles havn't taken the measures to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.


    utter misdirection bollocks.

    the carbon dioxide isnt even the tip of the iceberg., it's but only one indicator, and not a very accurate one either as it's effects are caused by so many things. if you truely want to know how much we've fucked over the planet, take a look at all the seriously toxic, ultra harmful carcinogens that are mostly non-biodegradeable, found in over 99% of cosmetics and toiletries, and is now found in every drop of rain on the planet, going around and around, ever accumulating because its non biodegradeable and we keep making more of it!!!

    u wanna do something... pray for angelic assistence to cleanse these forms, to make them harmless.

    pray, meditate, whatever, to get your mind, your being, in a state where cleaning this shit up, taking the actions to prevent this from continuing, to do all that needs to be done and do it with the sheer joy that saving the planet it...

    tell me... do you still buy non-organic produce? you're destroying the planet.

    do you still buy cosmetics? you're destroying the planet.

    didn't like the idea of you destroying the planet? great. you're saving the planet. every little step, the tiniest shift, creates a completely different course... astronomers understand.
  13. [​IMG]

    "You see that pale, blue dot? That's us. Everything that has ever happened in all of human history, has happened on that pixel. All the triumphs and all the tragedies, all the wars all the famines, all the major advances.....it's our only home. And that is what is at stake, our ability to live on planet Earth, to have a future as a civilization. I believe this is a moral issue, it is your time to cease this issue, it is our time to rise again to secure our future."<O:p</O:p

    ~Al Gore~
  14. Ya know Digit the more of your posts I read the more I realize I need to roast a few bowls with you bro. We could sit back toke and go headlong down the rabbit hole.

    [On my honor dear brother I promise you nothing less than oblivion.]

    Stay green green planet.
  15. Ok so lets remember this. A volcanic eruption can exhibit more toxic gases (sulfiric gases) into the atmosphere than we ever could in our lives. Also so what if the ice caps melt we can reverse this factor. Raise taxes and salt walter distillation :). Also there are studies that this is all a hoax and that the sunspots on the sun are hotter than ever and thats where the heat on earth comes from the sun and generally the sun spots and on the big sun. Also the tectonic plates are bull!
  16. FYI, sunspots are dark because they're actually cooler than the rest of the solar disk.

    Very cool-looking, actually:

  17. Still alot of our heat comes from the spots. Also there is no conclusive evidence that global warming is real and that human acts of technology are tied to it. Its basically propaganda so far right now. Remember everything has a opposition no matter what.
  18. denounce someone else for doing something you yourself are doing and some might not notice you were doing it.

    it's an old trick, but one that's been learned.

    i doubt u were even aware you were doing it, probably only parroting what you'd heard.

    there's no conclusive evidence that global warming is real.....?

    my thermometer begs to differ. i see it rise (and fall) every day. i'd say that's pretty conclusive.

    the graphs depicting a rising line over the past few decades also show a slight rise in average yearly temp. given that they were drawn from information taken from direct readings, so we're told, is also more than strongly suggestive.

    "the fewer declarative statements one makes, the less foolish one appears in retrospect" - Quinten Tarrantino in Four Rooms.

    (heh, i've made a few, some in this thread, like when getting sucked into by the hype and propaganda, and i leave em for all to see so we can all learn from another's mistakes)

    There was a Dispatches documentary on UK telly just a couple nights ago...
    it certainly dispelled alot of the CO2 hype bollocks (YES! vindicated, having just been saying that a few more days prior) but it was still very much clearly altered to be onside of the established energy supplier giants. wtf was that anti solar-power in africa bit at the end? fucking rotten cherries been picked there. ew.

    again tho...
    the real issue to sort out (imo) is the quantity of toxic pollution. _____________________________ we need just enough to stay strong, and considerably less than what would cause us harm. we're past that, and i've yet to see any moves to reduce the acceleration of pumping these chemicals out. (nearly 100% of the shit in your cosmetics are not in there for your benefit, there are 100% clean green natural organic alternatives to the comon poisons, you just have to actively look for them and dig your heels in against buying from the petrochemical giant until they learn the ways of the universe, cause & effect, and that their bottom line exists beyond time (especially beyond their short term quarterly gains))

    and there are many more numerous and more complex molecules to be concerned about and to convert into benign molecules in that topic than the dum-dumb topic of CO2.

    but then, a simple lie is quicker and easier to repeat and brainwash people with than the complexity of truth. :rolleyes: :( :mad:




    PPPS, oh heck, lets avoid the multi-post for once. :D

    to say it's because they're cooler is a little un-telling of the whole truth.

    more to do with magnetism (cause*) than tempreture (effect).

    http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q142.html says a little more on it. though there's a million websites out there on this to learn more about our star.

    *the real cause of this yet still eludes us. what is grandfather sun upto when doing this? just giving us a light display at our poles just for our wonder, awe and amusement?
  19. Well, yes, they're dark because they're cool (relatively speaking, that is), and they're cool because of the sun's complex magnetic field. :)

    A -> B -> C

    It's all very interesting, really -- I would have gone into astrophysics if it paid better. I find stellar physics & evolution particularly fascinating.

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