Im a rather enthusiastic researcher when it comes to conspiracy. Im a "Truther" and a "Birther", i believe the federal reserve owns our country along with several other banking cartels, i believe we killed kennedy because he wouldnt go along with Operation Northwoods and signed an executive order to end the fed shortly before his assassination. (the list is much longer, but i think these marginalize me enough) I believe all of this, and having said that, ive compiled a massive quantity of documentation to support the theories so that i am not as easily marginalized in conversation. Since the bin laden announcement, i have dumped my collective knowledge on facebook for the public, posting videos photos scanned documents and audio clips. I logged into fbook about 10 mins ago, and my profile is scrubbed clean. credibility +1 if you ask me... if i may quote Helga G Patacki, "This stinks on ice!"
wow made my day. i can actually remember that. I don't know how to contribute though, sorry. but be glad you made my day. it was shitty.
I had some stuff wiped off my facebook in regards to the G20 in pittsburgh a while ago when I still had a facebook. Needless to say, it makes a guy paranoid.
why? i'm fun as hell to be around when high.. just ask anyone from GC who's met me.. i'll have you laughing all day, and usually supply all the weed... and it's really good. donno what that has to do with me being on facebook
Kind of off the topic, but I just realized that some of the things I've posted on facebook, whether it be my status or on someones wall, wasn't there a few hours after I posted it. Most of them have been about legalization, the federal reserve, etc. I don't know if it's a glitch, or something happened with my connection, but they just aren't there anymore. Idk... crazy world we're living in today.
We are suppose to be good Americans and shut the fuck up and listen to what the picture box tells us!
I agree something is weird. Americans are stupid and believe whatever our government/media tells us. No questions. Americans weren't really suspicious when we stopped hunting for bin laden, began to ignore Afghanistan altogether, and invaded Iraq. And again, Americans aren't suspicious that 10 years later, after not a peep from our government/media about Bin Laden's wear abouts, the president of the United States has announced the death of this almost anonymous character. Is it a coincidence that this happens right after Obama starts campaigning? His approval ratings sure as hell went up a few points. Politics. If i see one more person IRL jumping up and down about the death of Bin Laden I'm going to scream. This is what happens when we raise a generation on a broken educational system. We have people running around not questioning anything or even giving whats shoved down their throats a second thought.
Reading your post and seeing what's been going on in our country for years reminds me of some Hitler quotes I recently saved for relevance... "He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future." "How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." "If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed." "It is not truth that matters, but victory." "The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force." "The great masses of the people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one." Also, “Naturally the common people don't want war. But after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.†- Hermann Goering, Hitler's Reich Marshall, at the Nuremberg Trials after World War II.
HAHAHAHA, while the FB editing is scary, and not right, I hope you do not think that 9/11 was a conspiracy or that the bin ladin killing was fake...and to say you dumped your "knowledge" is laughable...better to say you crapped out your crazy assumptions...to think our gov't is capable enough to pull off the things you speak of is wild. I wish it were possible for out gov't to act soo secretly and successfully is just ludicrous.
Forget the op, his post was kind of dumb to begin with. But read my post and then just really pay attention to our media/government. I am sure that if you pay attention long enough you will suddenly not be sure what to believe... One thing's for sure, if you really start to listen you will take everything the government says, or those who cooperate with them (see: media), with a grain of salt.
your posts were good, and i agree with a lot, but i will never believe that our government is corrupt enough, or smart enough, to plan things out like getting Bin Ladin based on the election calendar, or having a hand in 9/11 or anything like that. But, you media comment is spot on and nowadays it is almost impossible to get real news without looking at many different sources from many different people and companies (which can often be alot more difficult then i used to think,,,when you learn that certain companies own almost all of the traditional, and many non-traditional, news sources) LASTLY, truthers and the 9/11 was a conspiracy folk are nuts. Im sure ill get some PM's about that comment but I still will say it. 9/11 Truthers are CRAZY and I hope beyond hope that none of them will EVER speak, post or even contact me. And on that note, Rashard Mendenhall is an idiot, but i do agree cheering about a death (even that scum Osama, who i woulda killed myself) is wrong and inappropriate...that is just my .02 thou Stay Positive, Keep Cultivating -DC
I have sympathy for conspiracy theorists more so than I have for people like you... Why? Look at our government's track record when it comes to lying to us, or withholding information. They don't build themselves a strong case at all... Not to mention that just by questioning authority something good is being done. You should never trust authority, and at the very least you must make authority explain it's actions.
First of all, "truthers" and the "9/11 was a conspiracy" are both referencing the same people. If you meant birthers then that's your opinion. I like to think that truthers, birthers, or anyone else who questions what's believed to be common knowledge are just after the truth. These people, for the most part, have been paying attention to these issues (obama's birth certificate, or 911), gathering the information piece by piece and recognizing that the stories don't add up. Period. You only become crazy once you're convinced that what you believe is correct, beyond a shadow of a doubt, despite the proper evidence. So if this is the defintion for crazy then that makes the government (for expecting us to believe something without evidence), the media (for believing/ expecting us to believe something without evidence), and most Americans (for believing something without evidence) all crazy.
^^Thanx man, but in no way was i looking for sympathy. And you should have sympathy for the truthers and people like that, because for the most part, they are freaking nuts!!! I am all for questioning authority and our government, in fact I agree that it is crucial. But, to say that 9/11 was fake or anything along those lines make me ignore most of the good arguments that may exist. And if you are gonna post something like that at me, please explain what you are referring to where our government lies to us soo routinely. I understand they do, and some/often in cases where the do not need to or shouldn't...i would just like to hear what you are referring to, since you have so clearly though all this out so It should not take too long for you to tell me what your referring to with all the lies.
I am far too busy (finals week) and it would be easily over a 50,000 word post. But if you haven't come across instances where the government has lied to us/you then for now I'll just.... (but I will come later with a thread outlaying many lies told by our government, so be on the lookout for that. It will naturally be in the politics section) Perhaps a better question is to name ANY government in ANY time period that hasn't told multiple lies to their citizens.
Look our government is not perfect, and does lie to us, but they are not capable of mass murder. Even though we have changed from a republic to a quasi-democracy (big mistake), there is still no way for a shadow government to form. That is to say that we have a system of checks and balances that make sure that no government entity ever gains too much power. Yes our government has done some terrible things, but they wouldn't kill 3000 of their own civilians just to dump 1.38 Trillion dollars (Official number) into the middle east. How much sense would that even make?
^^well said and nice to hear someone with a sensible viewpoint and opinion. To StayHighAllDay: that was basically the reposnse I was expecting and usually get wen I ask the question. I understand the gov't does lie and for many reasons (some good, some bad) I just wanna know a few of the lies you are referring to. I still think tat most people with you viewpoints do say that the gov't lies alot more to the public then they really do, and often for much different reasons then reality. I am not trying to start a personal argument, I just wanna get a basic idea of what lies your referring to...how about justa quick idea of the main lies your talking about...because honestly, i think that will really give me an idea of what your argument is....all i want is a few of the lies your referring to. It should lonly take 2-3 min to write a few sentences witha few examples...espcially if you could write a 50000 word essay on it... so please, give me a few details of the lies ur referring to