Agenda 21

Agenda 21 is about goals and guidelines. It is an inventory and control program of everything that exists. There is no policy with in the Agenda 21 framework. It is up to the policy makers in your local, state and federal government to design policies that comply with Agenda 21 and many of these policy makers are eager to comply. There are numerous laws in place to insure compliance.

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp-Geyq53Hc]ROSA KOIRE: HUFFINGTON POST INTERVIEW - YouTube[/ame]

 

lol you dont even realize how many generals and admirals who have the actual power,
will prevent this from happening.

do you really think illuminati can buy out all the generals or admirals or convince them to do this? really?
sounds to me like a huge leap to take...

 

Those positions of power are VERY political. You don't get to be a general or admiral unless you fold to the powers that be. They are already bought out.

 

to going to get into a contradiction,
i will let time speak for me,
there too many factors that none of us including me or the nwo have not yet
considered.
agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

[quote name='"maxrule"']

You completely misunderstand psychology of a highly trained soldier. The military will disarm and intern their own families when given the order. They will strike their own home with a drone and think nothing of it.

Those guys wear uniforms and all those military insignias with pride because they follow orders. They follow orders because they believe there is honor in doing so.



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Where's your proof? History shows that our military has never attacked our own . Our soliders voluntarly join and love their homes which is why they joined. They don't get paid much, douches like ones on these boards hate soldiers and always remind them of it,

 

[quote name='"lilro"']

What is your definition of "actual war"?[/quote]

Ww2, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan,

Where we invade and occupy, and where the the conflict is not short term,the president has power to deploy armed forces for 60 days without congressional approval as it is,

 

[quote name='"maxrule"']Agenda 21 is about goals and guidelines. It is an inventory and control program of everything that exists. There is no policy with in the Agenda 21 framework. It is up to the policy makers in your local, state and federal government to design policies that comply with Agenda 21 and many of these policy makers are eager to comply. There are numerous laws in place to insure compliance.

America 2050 is supported by:
The Rockefeller Foundation
The Doris Duke Charitable Foundation
The Surdna Foundation
The Lincoln Institute of Land Policy
The J.M. Kaplan Fund
AECOM
Park Foundation
The William Penn Foundation
STV Group, Inc.
The Ford Foundation

http://clinton2.nara.gov/PCSD/
http://www.usda.gov/oce/sustainable/

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp-Geyq53Hc[/quote]

Well aslong as their not going totally against the constitution, does it matter?

 

They are going totally against the constitution of course. The constitution outlines rights and freedoms for the individual. They are changing this in to group rights which removes rights of the individual. The globalists are putting together a global collectivism styled after the soviet system.

There is no room for individual freedom or the individual pursuit of happiness under authoritarianism. Collectivism is not compatible with individualism in any way.

Modern liberalism can be divided in to two distinct camps. One camp are the Fabian socialist and other is the Marxist communists. The two camps only ever disagree on the tactics and timeliness but the end goal of an authoritarian collectivist society remains the same.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bys8CLAFhUs]G. Edward Griffin- On Individualism v Collectivism #1 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRKpiNp-IYc&feature=related]Leninism vs Fabianism: Two Branches of Collectivism [Part 1] - YouTube[/ame]

 

[quote name='"maxrule"']

They are going totally against the constitution of course. The constitution outlines rights and freedoms for the individual. They are changing this in to group rights which removes rights of the individual. The globalists are putting together a global collectivism styled after the soviet system.

There is no room for individual freedom or the individual pursuit of happiness under authoritarianism. Collectivism is not compatible with individualism in any way.

Modern liberalism can be divided in to two distinct camps. One camp are the Fabian socialist and other is the Marxist communists. The two camps only ever disagree on the tactics and timeliness but the end goal of an authoritarian collectivist society remains the same.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bys8CLAFhUs

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRKpiNp-IYc&feature=related[/quote]

But how are these global agendas going to remove the judicial branch???? Which has final say,

People have been saying the same thing since 9/11,but yet our government is not nearly a totalitarian one, and its actions aren't as bad IMO as previous generations. I doubt something like rounding up all Japanese people can happen today...

 

So you don't consider the Civil War an "actual war"?

And they don't have to get rid of the judicial branch. They just pay off the judges, and they never go to court. Eric Holder ring a bell?

 

[quote name='"lilro"']

So you don't consider the Civil War an "actual war"?

And they don't have to get rid of the judicial branch. They just pay off the judges, and they never go to court. Eric Holder ring a bell?[/quote]


Why wouldn't I consider the civil war a war??? Its not Something thar has happened since, or come close to really, but even then the union invaded and occupied, was longer than 60 days... just like I said.

And pay off judges...sure.

Show me proof of the supreme court being paid off...and wasn't Eric holder investigated by Congress or something?

I don't think he would have gone to the supreme court anyway since it wasn't a question of constitutionality ,if my memory serves me correct

Wouldn't it have been easier to pay off the judges when they said International treaties hold no weight vs the constitution, that way the laws wouldn't even have been an issue?

 

I mentioned the Civil War because you said our military has never attacked us. There were people in the military who killed normal citizens then.

And yes, Eric was investigated by Congress, who voted to have him tried in front of a judge. The judge said no.
Justice Department Won

Whether he was guilty or innocent, he should've been tried.
Perhaps you should keep up with politics before arguing about it.

 

This change has been happening for a long time but has sped up sing 2001. We are being transformed in to a more authoritarian society with a clear tendency towards collectivism in all forms where the individual gives up his rights for the benefit of the group. Think about the UN gun ban and all the calls to limit the second amendment coming from the right and the left. The logic is that mass shootings can happen so the group must be protected at the expense of the individual.

The whole right vs left paradigm is an illusion. Both sides are working towards a global collectivist society that the elite term as the new world order.

Here is the video that I should have shared in that previous post. This is well worth your time.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dON5D6Wkprw]G. Edward Griffin: The Collectivist Conspiracy - YouTube[/ame]

 

[quote name='"lilro"']

I mentioned the Civil War because you said our military has never attacked us. There were people in the military who killed normal citizens then.

And yes, Eric was investigated by Congress, who voted to have him tried in front of a judge. The judge said no.
Justice Department Won

Whether he was guilty or innocent, he should've been tried.
Perhaps you should keep up with politics before arguing about it.[/quote]

I said supreme court, maybe you should keep up with previous rulings, and have evidence for the supreme court being paid off,

Or why the supreme court upholding the constitution vs international law doesn't matter,

And yes were the southern troops attacking their own states? Were union soilders seizing northern ccities? ???

No.

It was south vs north.


Our government has been slowly moving forward. As I said something like rounding up an entire ethic group would probably not happen,

I imagine that if it was, it would have happened to Muslims after9-11

 

[quote name='"maxrule"']

This change has been happening for a long time but has sped up sing 2001. We are being transformed in to a more authoritarian society with a clear tendency towards collectivism in all forms where the individual gives up his rights for the benefit of the group. Think about the UN gun ban and all the calls to limit the second amendment coming from the right and the left. The logic is that mass shootings can happen so the group must be protected at the expense of the individual.

The whole right vs left paradigm is an illusion. Both sides are working towards a global collectivist society that the elite term as the new world order.

Here is the video that I should have shared in that previous post. This is well worth your time.

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dON5D6Wkprw[/quote]

But gun control has eased so much????

Like the supreme court ruling against d.c. and Chicago gun bans???

And how every state besides Illinois has concealed carry I believe, and i read that Maryland was making it easier somewhere on Gc,

The courts have already said that international treaties can't challenge the constitution, and I'm pretty sure tthe gun control u.n. treaty had to do with the international trade of firearms, whichh should be more regulated

 

The Justice Department decided it won't even GO to Supreme Court. That's not constitutional at all.

So if a marine from Tennessee comes home, and citizen vs military war breaks out, and he kills 10 people in Oklahoma, it doesn't count? Really? That's the logic you're using?

And the US govt doesn't round up entire ethnic groups? You've really never heard of Japanese internment camps? There are people alive today that were alive then, so don't try to play like it was 1,000 years ago.

 

[quote name='"lilro"']

The Justice Department decided it won't even GO to Supreme Court. That's not constitutional at all.

So if a marine from Tennessee comes home, and citizen vs military war breaks out, and he kills 10 people in Oklahoma, it doesn't count? Really? That's the logic you're using?

And the US govt doesn't round up entire ethnic groups? You've really never heard of Japanese internment camps? There are people alive today that were alive then, so don't try to play like it was 1,000 years ago.[/quote]

Ok but you are not showing where the supreme court has been paid off, that is what you said, "they'll pay off the judges" and the justice department is not the judicial branch. Its executive


Geeze man, the south succeeded from the u.s., forming its OWN nation, which means they were direct enemies, Confederacy vs union.

And I said earlier in this thread, that the Japanese were rounded up, and that something like that today would most likely not happen,

I used the Japanese encampment as evidence of our nation progressing. As that sort of thing I believe will not happen again, and if so, would not have widespread public support

 

What evidence do you have to support this statement? Like I said, it wasn't that long ago. There are still people alive from that time.

 

[quote name='"lilro"']

What evidence do you have to support this statement? Like I said, it wasn't that long ago. There are still people alive from that time.[/quote]

That it hasn't been attempted again. If it would have, the Islamic red scare after 911 would have been perfect,

At one point in time blacks were 3/5ths a citizen, and now the preaident suppports gay marriage,we have been going forward,