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Advanced nutrients in coco help???

Discussion in 'Coco Coir' started by PolarBeargrower, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. I have been growing 2 clones from a dispensary in my closet for almost 2 weeks now put them straight into 12/12 when i got them and they starting to show their pre flowers. I am currently using a few different nutes from the advanced nutrients bloom enhancers line such as Bud Factor X, Bud Candy and Grandma Enggy's F1 Fulvic Acid. Im wondering becasue the directions on the bottle say give it to the plant for week 1-6 of flowering. Does this mean i can mix lets say Grandma Enggy's F1 Fulvic Acid and Bud Factor X, or will this burn for some reason? These nutes do not seem to have a high nitrogen content so i would have to believe they would be safe to mix since they are from the same company and all. If anyone has had any experience with Advanced Nutirents or any of the nutirents i have previously mentioned. Your help would be greatly appreciated:wave:
     


  2. usually when using additives u drop the base nute by 10 to 25% to and do all bottles say the same thing?
     
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  3. I dont even have a base nute i just have some other organic nutrients in the coco already mixed in such as various types of guano and fox farm ocean forest. And the bottles all have different measuring quatities but they all say use weeks 1-6 of flowering. Im not sure if this means i can mix them or if this means i should only use one of them?
     
  4. Nutrient Calculator, Hydroponics nutrient calculator

    just look on their site at the nutrient calculator. it will show you what weeks to use what. im not sure how it will work out for you since you have all that other stuff mixed in w/ your coco. when you start adding a bunch of stuff like ocean forest and other soils its start to become just that...... soil.
     
  5. I am not trying to find out measurments and the Additives in the soil have nothing to do with whether or not i can mix Advanced Nutrients Bud Candy, Bud Factor X and Grandma Eggny's F1 Fulvic Acid
     
  6. U may need to get a base flower fertilizer. U can wait a couple of weeks because the ocean forest soil will provide food up until 2 weeks and the guano will add to that. So don't add the additives yet or else you will get nute lock. When it's time to add the nutes start everything at 1/4 strength then move up based on ur plants needs

    My bad u said u mixed coco with the soil. I would wait around 1 week until adding the additives.
     

  7. yes, but the link i posted will tell you if you can use one product w/ the other. isnt that kinda what you wanted to know in the first place? if you could mix this with that? sorry for trying to help
     
  8. I am sorry if i came off angry but i was just in a time bind i did not mean to give off the wrong impression. I greatly appreciate the help of anyone
     
  9. I imagine that if you're checking on your levels, you'll be okay to mix things. Personally, I'm not sure why you're not using base nutrients as that seems like you're setting yoruself up for problems with plant health.

    I haven't had troubles mixing things from AN, so I think that won't be the issue, but I know that I have a different regimen than you're running, so I can't speak with absolute confidence about your plan.
     
  10. just thought I'd mention that FF ocean's forest isn't organic. Additionally those AN nutrients are worthless and honestly, you would do better fertilizing with humanure.

    integralhydro.com/advancednutrients2
     
  11. its not ocean forest its marine cusine and it is a all organic grow
     
  12. Sorry, but that's just all kinds of wrong.

    The first site doesn't say squat about whether or not the nutrients are organic and is nothing more than state regulators trying to enforce their own agendas on what kind of nutrients people can buy.

    The second is a website written by a guy who sells competitor nutrients and pretends to be some kind of unbiased crusader.

    The truth is that Advanced Nutrients makes both organic and synthetic nutrients. If you use the organic ones you have an organic grow (provided you don't do anything else non-organic). The reason that the nutrients in question here aren't organic is because they're not intended to be organic. Bud Factor X and Bud Candy aren't organic nutrients and they're not intended to be. They're not sold as organic unless the guy in the store was mistaken or lied.

    I'm not sure about the F-1. I think it might be but I would have to look that up to be sure. Ultimately it doesn't matter if you're a purist because one drop of non-organic anything makes a whole crop non-organic to a purist. If you're not a purist I'd say don't sweat it because you just have to decide for yourself how organic is "organic enough" for you.
     
  13. wow its crazy how many people hate advanced nutrients because your a cheap ass and dont wanna pay for the best and 2nd off it is an all organic grow so yet again your wrong on that i have the bottles so i would know whether or not they are organic f1 is organic as well as bud candy bud factor x is the only one that may not be organic but that has nothing to do with anything why do all you liberals have to post negative comments when its clearly not neccesary:confused::smoke: also im 5 weeks into the grow and there has been no burning whatsoever
     
  14. Advanced is the best nutes I've used and I've tried all the top brands. I use the same strain same soil same everything and advanced is much more yielding and plants love it. I also like fox farm it creates tastier smoke. But at the end of the day I use advanced it might cost more but I get at least an extra oz per plant compared to others easily. The problem is people get on a schedule and a pattern and are afraid to try new shit, then they talk bad about nutes that they didn't ever use and if they did they used it wrong. Every top name brand nute is good but ill always use advanced.
     
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  15. But I'm thinking about trying coco any input on this I use soil now??
     

  16. advanced uses pgrs and should be used according to the label" if it says use between weeks blah and blah. don't stray they tell you to stop using in week such and such cause they don't want to kill you. pgrs are are bad and an is chock full of them.
     
  17. Ive used general hydro floranova, AN, Botanicare and some random off brand organics, and ive never noticed to much of a difference between any of them(other than price of course)....personal opinion, its all on the growers techniques/environment.
     
  18. As far as hydroponic media go, coco is very "young" chemically. It's only barely started to break down and thus does a lot of this while you're using it in your hydroponics.

    It is also very inconsistent from source to source. Some of it comes absolutely chock-full of sea salt and has to be rinsed and rinsed before it's safe to grow with. Some suppliers put out an excellent quality of coco. But there's no consistency so it's hard for a nutrient manufacturer to really calibrate nutrients to work with coco AND anything else (that's the reason you'll see coco-specific nutrients but not rockwool/hydroton/dwc specific nutes).

    Even the best-quality coco is still "doing" a lot of stuff while it's in your system. Absorbing this, breaking down and releasing that... it's really, really active.


    I know a lot of people really love coco and won't grow any other way. I've used it and I was happy with how it performed but I wasn't wow'ed and didn't mess with it again.

    Anyway, my point is that it can be tricky to use coco. If you find a method that works great but just keep in mind that if you have a problem with something while using it in a coco grow that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with that nutrient. It's probably the coco that threw the monkey wrench in the works.
     

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