Absolute Newbie's Absolute First Time

Discussion in 'Marijuana Grow Journals' started by gonejah17, Jul 22, 2007.



  1. I've been looking at these portable devices for my own grow closet since I'm having similar issues.

    There are two different types of machines - a portable AC, and a portable evaporative cooler. The AC units that I've looked at have a hose that you're supposed to run out the window (or maybe into another room?). I'm guessing that the hose is used to vent the hot air that the AC unit produces as it cools the room down. Also, the portble AC units that I've looked at are hellishely expensive ($500+). I actually considered buying a $98 window-mount AC unit and cutting a hole in the closet wall and venting it into the bathroom next door. But I think the roommate might get suspicious.

    The evaporative coolers don't require any venting, but they *do* require a significant amount of air circulation for them to work. In an enclosed area like a closet, the humidity will eventually rise to the point that the water in the cooler can no longer evaporate and your cooler turns into an overpriced box fan.
     
  2. thanks man i need as much info as I can get. that shits funny about ur roommate getting supicious about an A/C hanging out of the closet lol. I feel u its like my landlord is gonna be like , "huh??" when he sees the 4 inch ducting coming out of my closet or some shit lol. thanks for the 411 on the coolers that helps ima try to make it out to hellmart to check them out today.

    And now, "sniff sniff" for some bud bondage porn.

    not quite snuff, but these sexy young ladies have been tortured under extreme conditions. this is not for the weak of heart. do NOT try this at home. children look away . . .

























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    we'll start off slow. left to right P1 P2 P3 from afar after some 90 degree plus temps. this is after last night when i managed to bring the temp down to eventually 78 by morning. so they look a little better than they did. But check out P2 . . . . .

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    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! my baby!!!!! think shes mad at me for not naming her???? I thought at first the brown shit might be some dirt or something but no no no!!! I dont know is she dying??? is this heat stress??? watering problems?? lack of aeration in the soil??? nutes???? I havent nuted at all but i might have slighty overwatered early on might this have released nutes in the fox farm??? I dont know, any info???? I know its sad to see her like this it breaks my heart, If I could trade places with her I would lmao. Im trying to revive her I have by no means lost hope.

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    and two more of P2. stem is still rich red so i dont htink shes dead but what is this discoloration?!?!?!? fucker looks beat down huh????? HELP!!!!!!

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    heres P1 "Legs" still a little yellow but she seems to be doing ok. any comments???

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    and some more of Legs. Shes a trooper.


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    and heres P3. she seems cool. green. not much goin on here the cotyledon's are still a little jacked but thats just her swagger lol.


    So those are the plants right now. P2 is looking like I took her in the back room with Rocko and Sonny or some shit. Please help with that plant it has the potential to be a bad motherfucker lol.


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    and here is a pic of the fan situation as it stands. one blowing air in and one at floor oscillating and blowing on the seedlings.


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    Got it down to 78 overnight. wish i could keep it there its 10 in the morning and its at 80.6 so fingers crossed.

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    heres some pics of the bulb i bought. just for specs. maybe someone could tell me if this is the worst bulb I could ever use and if that might be why P2 is giving me the old F.U.????? cuz thats my luck.


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    and heres a pic of the little ladies under the lights. the right two bulbs are the sunshine and the left two are the old ones. the lights are on but the flash canceled them out.


    K thats it Ill post more but my fingers aer tired and I gotta smoke the rest of this Bullshit Schwag Kush so I can get some real weed. k peace.



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    oh heres a pic of the "OG KUSH" lookes good unuff but theres NO taste, minimal high, harsh smoke. balls man. big stinkin balls.
     
  3. I would guess the heat.
    It seems like you had +85 degs. temps. during the early portion of this thread.
    I wouldn't think anything between 85-95 would kill a plant, but probably would do some damage to a seedling.
     
  4. yet...your plant is not dead!!
    Maybe she will make a rally and come back.

    Some people have germinated seeds, and found the ugliest seedling turned into the best of the crop.
     
  5. thanks for the words of encouragement. . . .


    the temp topped off at 84.6 today so i still need to get it down lower. I didnt make it out to hellmart but i stopped by a goodwill store to look at some fans but to no avail.

    ima check on the temp in the middle of the night to see how low it gets hopefully back down to the high 70's.


    my boy came thru and blessed me with some fire kush to go with my wannabe kush. cant really tell from the pic how bomb it is but trust me it is:):). Whats prettier trichomes or titties ??? lol. seriously tho. heres the fire kush . . .


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    and im out :bolt:
     
  6. temps dropped down to 77 over the night and right now its at 81, partly due to my new ghetto rig lol . . . .[​IMG]

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    no ur eyes are not deceiving you, those are indeed two rigged up pcfans being powered by a pc in my grow room. I told u I keep it gangster lmao. but its creating quite a bit of airflow and i put the plants right in front of it. sp not bad. and I have an oscilating fan behind it blowing into it and antoher fan blowing in from the entry to hopefully get some outside co2 in. any comments??? feel free to hate on my ghetto rig I do lol.
     
  7. added another flourescent fixture too. its on its side behind the plants giving them more overall light. I would think. here is a pic looking down at the main "double fixture" and the single one on its side behind it. thats not where i put the plants there only there for pictures. I basically put them right in front of the pc fans with P1 a little elevated to stop the stretch and a little bit further back so it doesnt get as much wind sa P2 and P3

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    now some plant pics. this is the 15th day after i started germination


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    P1 Legs

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    P2 Diva. shes got an attitude u gotta treat her just right apparently or she act a fool. Diva

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    some more of Diva. u can start to see the "3 leaf" shape on the new growth.

    AND shit i erased the pic of P3. not much goin on with her shes pretty good. nice and green and still small. maybe ill call her Perky. yeah Perky. so thats that my girls home and I got a client on the way so I gott a end this quick. please post observations. peace out.
     
  8. the obligatory bud pic. this is Organic Mango check it out. pretty stony.


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  9. Hey gonejah, sorry I took so long to respond as Ive been pretty busy and didnt really like that bitch spreading her legs everytime I look at your posts. Would you like looking at my posts if I had Wesley Pipes cocking his legs? (LOL) Just fuckin with you. Those little babies r lookin kind of rough but they might still pull through. At least next time you can start your grow with all the proper equiptment. Peace
     
  10. Your soil is hurting those seedlings. They should not be discolored like that.
     
  11. yeah i have no idea why they're so fucked up tho?? the temp???

    its really just diva thats ALL fucked up, the others i think are gonna be ok and even diva might pull through. Im using fox farm ocean as soil i thought that was good, no???

    lemme know cuz Im germinating one sadhu and one kush seed as we speak looking for better results. Ill post pics tonight or in the morning. thank you for the responses. flower girl u really think they're done for?? and if the avatar upsets u lemme know for real ill put somethin els up there for ya just grabbed tha pic off myspace lol allright peace yall

    and stay tuned, i dont think this grow is over.
     
  12. FFOcean forest soil is good for mature, well established plants. Some strains are sensitive and get over ferted very easily making seedlings in this soil a risky business.
     
  13. Thats whats up I didnt know that about FFOF. well I also have the fox farm red bag . . .

    think im going to wait longer in germination,like for the root tips to get a little longer before planting. any better ideas for a grow medium to raise seedlings in?? should I just get some rockwool or some jiffy pots?? Ill look more in the forums but let me know if u have any offf hand advice. thank you again

    PS humidity is only at 20-28%. not good I know I put two cups of water by the plants to evaporate and hopefully help humidify the area.

    PPS hope ur lovin the avatar flowergirl lmao
     
  14. got the humidity up to around 45% and the temp down as low as 74 degrees!!!! now that's pimpin lol. nah but its good that I think at least I have some control over those factors which I know I need. The plants new growth is looking better too I have pics. . . .

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    Legs Diva And Perky Left to right. they keep on truckin.


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    Legs . . . Startin to show her 3 leaf set.


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    Diva . . . look at the difference in the new growth compared to the old growth underneath. Like you could miss it lol. looks like I was tryin to smoke that shit while it was still alive or something. oh PS found a moth chillin on Diva today :((( when can I start peticides??????


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    and heres Perky. she keeps on keepin on. slow and steady wins the race, eh Perk??


    Now, If you notice, there's no more PC in the room. . . .

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    I took someone on the forums advice and took out the PSU and bypassed its need to be attatched to a MOBO (which initially I knew had to be possible I just didnt know how.) Its REALLY easy to do and kind of opens up some possibilities for some growers who want some cheap "fan action". Like me lol. CUz u can get some pretty powerful fans that attatch to PSUs I think. if u need to know how just PM me or search it its easy. here are some pics. in the first one u can also see the two cups I have half filled with water to evaporate and help with humidity . . . .

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    as u can see all u do is jump the main cable that goes to the MOBO with some wire. I used speaker wire. seems to be a well known trick but I didnt know it. And now I do. Blammo!!!



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    and heres a pic of the fan behind the plants blowing air out. pretty cool i been sticking my hand back there and feeling warm air blowin out and when i feel the air blowing in over the plants its cool air so must be working. :D :D if I can do this trust me ANYONE can do it. just look at how ghetto i set it up lol.

    Iwas gonna post some pics of the temp/humidity readouts cuz It saves the minimum and maximum but who really wants to see pics of that. max humidity has been 47%. I hear 50% is optimal. min temp has been 74 degrees. which I THINK is in optimal range. MAx temp has been 88.7 since it started its memory. and min humidity has been 20% which was before I put the glasses of water up. thats shit works apparently. alright yall time to skirt. hit me with some comments let me know u agree with me that my seedlings can make it if I pull my head out of my ass, yeah?? someone?? anyone???


    no i didnt forget here is some LA Confidential from the SF Valley bitches :D:D

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  15. Ah the good old SF Valley. Bought some very good weed out there a couple of times. Jiffy pots; don't use them. I have heard bad reports with them plus they retain too much water. If you grow rockwool know the pH should be from 5.2-5.8 in that where soil is best at 6.2-6.8.

    Next time these are dry, give them another flush to make sure excess nutes are away and hopefully they should make it.
     
  16. just keep planting the germinated seeds into soil then??? I think it should work now that I know to water the soil first then put the seeds in with the saran wrap out of the light untill they break the soil.

    This may sound stupid, and I get the basic idea, but what exactly do u mean by flush them??? Ive always wanted to ask this. Just water them untill it pours out the bottom??? cuz thats what I do when I water them every two days anyway. could this be the probem??? I know it sounds stupid but maybe if someone could tell me the specific way they water their seedlings and explain it to me like a 4 year old.

    what Ive been doing is gently pouring purified water evenly around the surface of the soil and at first it sits on top then begins to saturate, then I pour it in little amounts evenly around untill it starts to drip out the bottom. Is this not right? am i a fool for asking?? I really dont care could someone just let me know?? thanks for all the advice I think they're gonna make it.


    PS guess Im also still not really sure how there could be excess nutes since I havent nuted them. I know u said the FFOF soil but could u elaborate?? is it that if I overwater the nutrient rich FFOF it releases nutrients and messes with the seedlings????? thanks again for ur tips. oh and y is there a red envelope next to my thread any ideas??
     
  17. LOL, no you are not a fool for asking!

    Are you keeping the germ. area warm enough? Forgive me if you already said that.

    Yes, slowly water the soil until it saturates enough for some to drain out of the bottom of the pot. Up to 10% of the original amount that you poured in should drain out of the bottom, according to J. Cervantes et al. For example, if you have a 6" pot, you should be watering at about 250 mL, so up to 25 mL should be coming draining to the bottom. I use a measuring cup when watering, that way I know exactly how much water the plant is going to get. Getting the soil wet when transplanting makes things easier to work with too.

    P.s. just clip off those nasty brown leaves, they are not doing you any good lol.
     
  18. is brewing. I have two seeds (1 sadhu 1 from a bag of kush from the store) that germinated overnight and are now 1/4 inch deep in pre watered soil and wrapped in saran wrap in the process of sprouting. and I put one seed I got from a bag of shake from the store into a glass of water that is covered so it can get no light. I just wanted to see how well this method worked. It has not germinated yet.

    The plants are cool Ill post pics tomorrow. not much growth.

    I was reading into nute deficiencies and I think I had/have an N deficiency. Any ideas? just from the fact that the tips of the leaves and the bottom leaves are being affected it seemed to point in that direction in the chart I was reading. I flushed Diva and Legs with almost three times the volume of the pots they are in, i.e. I poured almost three dixie cups full of pure water through them and let it drain. is that flushing??? lol I have no idea

    temp and humidity look cool. ill keep updating. Oh and I was gonna clip the leaves but I want to wait a little bit for fear of damaging the plant. Or should I clip them to concentrate the plants energy on the new growth??? lemme know
     
  19. havent sprouted yet. if they dont its the VERY LAST TIME im messin with that saran wrap I think its for the birds lol. pre watered the soil and stuck the germinated seed 1/4 inch down like I was told. SO THEY BETTER SPROUT!!!!!!!!! I mean cmon
     

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