5Th Amendment Destroyed: Deadline Looms For Suspect To Decrypt Laptop, Or Go Directly To Jail

They will regret it if they continue down this coarse. The people are getting angry

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What case is this? And there isn't enough info to make a decision. If you killed a man, and put your gun in the safe. And the judge believes that gun is in the safe, you're gonna have to open that safe or it's obstruction of justice.

And why do you believe we have freedom of speech?

You can't say nigger or kike ... Because its offensive.

Well anything can be offensive.

Another point: what if he lived in the UK? There's no 5th amendment there. He should give them the encryption codes. He's obviously hiding something.

And I don't know what case this is. I don't know any of the details. But from what you've told me, these are my thoughts

 

No.

If the jusdge was doing it legally he could issue a warrent

In this case its unwarrent search or indefinate detion without trial

No more info.is needed.

There is never any case where violating the constitution is acceptable
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You can say bigger or kike its protected by the first akmendment.

Making hate soeach illegal was one.of the worst things that happened to this country.

It sent a dangerous downhill spiral.

You can no longer talk about revolution. You can't burn the American.flag. you can't curse.out a cop.

The first ammendment.doesn't exist anymore.

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Have they tried entering his name in the password box yet?

 

It's only a matter of time now before a "judge" orders you to plead guilty.

 

 
Either plead guilty and be given a sentence or be indefinitely detained. Bam, 100% conviction rate and a ton more food for the prison industrial complex.

 

While it obviously shouldnt matter, Its a child pornography case
 
 

 
 
Im not a lawyer but as most answers seem to be in the article heres my take on it.  Its an issue that has yet to be addressed by the supreme court as its a relatively new technology/rarely used by the general public, regarding to what a search warrant covers with today's technology.  The laptops and hard drives were obtained with a search warrant, so the question is similar to the above, would a search warrant regarding someones safe, include its contents....and if so would forcing someone to open the safe be self incriminating, or would refusing to open the safe be obstructing the investigation?  I think everyone would agree it includes the contents of said safe, just like a search of your house includes the contents within.
 
The evidence was obtained legally with a warrant, if people had read the article instead of just posting to bash the govt they would have seen this.  The 1st issue is the legality of if a magistrate can make such an order is in question.  The more important issue is then if the suspect can be forced to provide his password.
 
 
UPDATE:  Judge blocks order demanding suspects decrypt computer drives or face jail

 

While it obviously shouldnt matter, Its a child pornography case


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Im not a lawyer but as most answers seem to be in the article heres my take on it. Its an issue that has yet to be addressed by the supreme court as its a relatively new technology/rarely used by the general public, regarding to what a search warrant covers with today's technology. The laptops and hard drives were obtained with a search warrant, so the question is similar to the above, would a search warrant regarding someones safe, include its contents....and if so would forcing someone to open the safe be self incriminating, or would refusing to open the safe be obstructing the investigation? I think everyone would agree it includes the contents of said safe, just like a search of your house includes the contents within.

The evidence was obtained legally with a warrant, if people had read the article instead of just posting to bash the govt they would have seen this. The 1st issue is the legality of if a magistrate can make such an order is in question. The more important issue is then if the suspect can be forced to provide his password.


UPDATE: Judge blocks order demanding suspects decrypt computer drives or face jail
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No. It doesn't matter what technooogy is used.

If you own a computer and have security on that.computer, you have a reasonable expectation if privacy.

Therefore it required a warrenr.or it violates the 4th ammendment.

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Is this a firm
 

 
Is this a firm opinion, or are you telling us, as I said i am no lawyer.  If that is how it is can you explain why, as stated you wouldnt have a warrant for a house, a safe in the house, a computer in the house, etc, but rather one warrant for the premisses, which they in fact had.  Thanks

 

Is this a firm opinion, or are you telling us, as I said i am no lawyer. If that is how it is can you explain why, as stated you wouldnt have a warrant for a house, a safe in the house, a computer in the house, etc, but rather one warrant for the premisses, which they in fact had. Thanks

</blockquote>The fourth ammendment specifically said that us citizens not be subject.to unwarrented searches and seizures

And the fifth ammendment protects you from being forced to.confess to possibly incriminating evidence

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If he killed somebody? Okay, I want that laptop encrypted.
 
But child porn? Hell there are so many pornos out there that there is no way to tell if those chicks in them are really 18 without I dunno being some sort of investigator haha. Maybe if it is z blatantly obvious porno with a 12 year old girl, then maybe, but why is law enforcement wasting their time?
 
There are quite a few porn actresses who look childishly young and base their porno careers off of that lol. A lot of them do it.
 
Why don't they just get a warrant to encrypt or decrypt or w/e the laptop?

 

 
Why in the hell would he be hiding the files and risking a very long sentence in prison if the girls are of legal age?

 

Let the government figure it out. If they can't decrypt it... well it's their own damn fault. Idiots.
 

 

No but Im saying how does he or the govt know how old they are?

 

Again they had a legit warrant, yet you keep talking about unwarranted searches.  Can you explain why you think the warrant is invalid?  Thats what im not following

 

actually anyone is allowed to say that...to my knowledge there are no words that are illegal to say in the U.S.
 
just because its offensive doesn't mean they are allowed to say it...look at this guys display of freedom of speech