5 Gallon Recipe help!!!!

Discussion in 'Growing Organic Marijuana' started by JONxDON, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. Bat Guano, Coco Coir bricks, Azomite, Dolomite Lime, EWC, and Epsom Salt, Perlite, Vermiculite, Bone meal, Blood meal, and Peat Moss.
     
  2. That is everything I have. But idk what measurements I need to make a batch
     
  3. [quote name='"JONxDON"']Bat Guano, Coco Coir bricks, Azomite, Dolomite Lime, EWC, and Epsom Salt, Perlite, Vermiculite, Bone meal, Blood meal, and Peat Moss.[/quote]

    I don't use half of the stuff you listed. But my guess would be:

    50% coir/peat mix (or just get rid of coir)
    25% EWC
    25%perlite/vermiculite mix

    There's your base.
    To this base I would add

    1 cup Azomite
    1/3 cup bone meal
    1/3 cup blood meal
    1/3 cup guano
    2 tablespoons of lime
    2 tablespoons Epsom salt

    These are strictly guesses for a 5 gallon mix. Most folks here mix by the cubic foot and amend anywhere from 2-4 cups per square foot with dry ingredients. Your working with less than a cubic foot, so you would use a little less obviously.

    Once again I don't use at least half of the stuff you listed so take this with a grain of salt and hopefully someone else will stop in and give ya a hint or 2.

    One piece of advice before I go, look into Neem, Crab, kelp and Alfalfa meals. All my favorite amendments.


    Boro
     
  4. You could go with about 1/2 to 2/3rds cup of dolomite for a 5 gallon mix.
     

  5. Have you done any reading in the stickys?

    Be glad to answer specific questions, but won't do your homework for you.

    Wet
     

  6. I've looked everywhere for some help. The problem is I don't see anyone with the products I'm using AND they're batches are like 60 gallons :confused:
     
  7. Go with what boro says. He broke it all down for you. Ditto on using peat over coir (if you do use peat up the lime to about 1/2 cup), and also on the neem, crab, kelp, and alfalfa meals. At the very least get some kelp meal. HTH
     
  8. Why get rid of the coir? In my experience, a 1:1 mix of sphagnum/coir provides for an excellent structure.

    50% Canadian sphagnum peat/coir mix
    25% pumice/perlite/whatever
    25% compost and/or ewc

    I second the "get some kelp" statement - it is a must have.
     
  9. Hey cl0ud,
    That's great to hear that you are using 50/50 peat/coir with good results. I'm not opposed to coir at all. However, the OP had no peat in the mix, just coir. My statement about using peat over coir was more along the lines of, "If you have to choose one, go with peat". Since this was for a new grower (who really didn't seem very interested in buying additional recommended amendments) I was mainly trying to streamline the mix. You don't see very much coir in use around here, so thanks for sharing your results. If I could get some for cheap I would definitely throw it in my mix!
     
  10. Peat comes from the forest floor where everything is decomposing, Coir comes from the tops of trees. It doesn't take a mental heavyweight to decide which one is more "biologically active"

    That's why most folks around her use Peat over Coir.


    Bori
     
  11. #12 cl0ud, Sep 25, 2012
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    ITG, try the Botanicare bricks - they're something like $2. Really helps loosen up the mix. As little as 10-15% would suffice.

    Boro, no doubt sphagnum is superior to coir (as far as micro life is concerned). The reasons I add coir to the mix is for: Diversity, soil structure/aeration. I believe it is all about diversity, and I prepare my base mix and amendments with this mentality - learned this from LD. If the compost component in the mix is QUALITY, no reason you can't get away with 1:1 coir/sphagnum.
     
  12. Thanks for the tip cl0ud, I didn't realize that they were so cheap. I would imagine that some percentage of coir would also be of benefit in a seed starting medium.
     
  13. 50% Canadian sphagnum peat/coir mix
    25% pumice/perlite/whatever
    25% compost and/or ewc

    ^ I can use that as a base soil without buying another soil? Please, I cant find good soil any where. Only MG or non-brand shit that has slow realease crap in it to. Plz help
     
  14. #15 SeanDawg, Sep 25, 2012
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    [quote name='"JONxDON"']50% Canadian sphagnum peat/coir mix
    25% pumice/perlite/whatever
    25% compost and/or ewc

    ^ I can use that as a base soil without buying another soil? Please, I cant find good soil any where. Only MG or non-brand shit that has slow realease crap in it to. Plz help[/quote]

    That would be a solid base mix yes. Also look into "cinders" as an aeration source.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinder
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    They are very porous, and have very good mineral content. So as it breaks down it will also be a viable mineral source. You could even get an extra bag, crush it as fine as possible and use as a "rock dust".

    HTH
    SD
     
  15. [quote name='"JONxDON"']50% Canadian sphagnum peat/coir mix
    25% pumice/perlite/whatever
    25% compost and/or ewc

    ^ I can use that as a base soil without buying another soil? Please, I cant find good soil any where. Only MG or non-brand shit that has slow realease crap in it to. Plz help[/quote]

    Your on thin ice here bro, did you read anything before you came here? Seriously, hit the stickies.


    Boro
     

  16. Yea and none of them are answering my question.
     
  17. Is it ok to only have a base soil in the pot for the veg stage then transplant it into a super soil mic once it's ready to flower?
     
  18. Are you serious man? Boro broke it all down for you and told you exactly how much of your amendments to add. Which you never thanked him for, I might add. What more do you want? I can understand being new to growing and needing help, but it's like you're not even paying attention. Check the first page of this thread. What other questions do you have.
     
  19. No, your plant will need some nutrients in veg too. Start your seeds or clones in the base soil, then after a few weeks transplant them into the nutrient-rich soil.
     

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