Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Disclosure:

The statements in this forum have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are generated by non-professional writers. Any products described are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

Website Disclosure:

This forum contains general information about diet, health and nutrition. The information is not advice and is not a substitute for advice from a healthcare professional.

4 Questions For People Who Are or Once Were 60's "Hippies"

Discussion in 'Seasoned Marijuana Users' started by njhippie, Aug 17, 2008.

Page 2 of 2
  1. #21 HerbalRemedies, Apr 27, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 27, 2009
    There's probably only a handful of people on this site old enough to answer those questions.

    And the ones that are will probably be too busy trying to say something awe inspiring to impress us youngsters that they will loose focus of what really went on in the 60's vs what they want you to believe it was like.

    Just a trend I've noticed in the older age bracket here on GC.

    EDIT: Remember to really have "lived" in the 60's, you probably want to talk to someone who was in their early to mid 20's (if not older)... and that person would have to be around 70-75, and there are no posters here that age.
     
  2. #22 ArtemisRain, Apr 27, 2009
    you mean your only 18? ;)[/quote]

    i want to hear more about this
     
  3. #23 njhippie, Apr 27, 2009
    Well by my calculations if someone was 25 in '69 then they would be 65 now so I would put the average around 60-65. I'm sure your right that its unlikely that a 65 year old person would be on here but I could see the possibility of someone of that age stumbling upon this thread or this one: http://forum.grasscity.com/seasoned-tokers/380329-has-anyone-here-had-priviledge-toking-60s.html and we might get an interesting story or something about life as a "hippie" in the 60s. Who knows?

    Either way there is some good discussion about the modern "hippies" in this thread which is still pretty interesting being that no one seems to agree on whether or not there is such a thing as a "neo-hippie". I know they exist because I have seen them in the New England area and of course they evolved from their 60's predecessors but they are still a continuation of the same movement that was started by the people who "lived" in the 60s.

    When people say the movement is dead they are ignoring the grassroots movement that never went away and is still making a small but positive difference in the world. There is also no denying that this "green" revolution going on now is a direct result of the hippie movement becoming mainstream.

    Yeah... I guess you can say I have a sort of fascination with hippies. I think that the movement represents the direction humanity needs to head if we plan on existing much longer here on Earth.
     
  4. #24 njhippie, Apr 27, 2009
    Sounds like a groovy plan dude... haha and you are completely correct about materialism by the way. I do no think there can be peace and love anywhere when people put themselves and their possessions ahead of everyone else. The bigger picture is that we can no longer be nations and religions fighting each other. We have to be a single human race united to save this planet from destruction.

    Pie in the sky... I know, but look at how far we've come in just 50 years (picture the unsustainability and intolerance of the 50's.) One can say that we're slowly heading in the right direction. We just need to speed things up a bit like we did in the 60s. We made some serious changes in the 60s that are permanent to this day but we need to do it again.

    It won't be the 60's all over again; that would be pointless but we need to make drastic changes that are relevant to the 21st century like ditching oil and coal and using renewable sources of energy. Don't wanna sound like an Obama worshipper but I think he's got the right idea (except for certain issues such as legalization of course)
     
  5. #25 njhippie, Apr 27, 2009
    Who's with me on this. Did the hippies have it right or what? Sure some of them just dropped acid all day but there was a legit movement and it has only evolved never died.
     
  6. #26 ModderXtr, Apr 27, 2009
    Obama flipflops on anything he says faster than you can say "oh shi-" He was pro legalization before he got elected strangely, but after we voted him in on the prospects of hoping to see a brighter future for our Mary Jane, he flipped and now is "against" it.
     
  7. #27 Grandma Gudenhi, Apr 27, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 27, 2009
    Well, I'm not a hippie from the 60s, but I did spend my teen years in the 70s so I kind of caught the tail end of it. Actually, I did do some orange sunshine (acid) in 1969, (I don't know how that happened. lol). I was kind of young to understand the political part but I did understand the peace and love involved.
    Anyway, IMO:
    1. I think back in the 60s that "hippies" smoked pot and very few others. Now, everyone across the board smokes pot. The peace and love people, past hippies who are now doctors and lawyers and CEOs and striving to become millionairs at others expense, thugs who get high and gangbang and kill people for no reason, everyone.
    Back then, hippies cared and shared. Now, I give away pot and there are people who will go sell it and then bug me for more. Now, It's all about greed and helping yourself.
    2.You know, I see people on here say it was just as good then as now. Back then, you had different grades that were better, but I have never seen anything like I see now and I grew up in the SF/Bay Area. I had smoked much pot in the Haight/Ashbury district. Sure we could get high off a joint, after you pulled all the stems and seeds out. Pot now definately looks, smells and tastes better. I had never smoked any one hit wonders like they have now. I'm sure if you removed all the leaves, stems, and seeds from Mex brick weed, that you would get pretty close to the same effect as most of the cleaned up sativas as now.
    3. I don't think there is a future for a "Hippie Culture". There is too much hate and greed that is now being associated with pot. Not enough of us care anymore. $60 for 1/8th oz of something I grow in my back yard? People killing people to steal their poundage? We recently had 2 thugs kill a 17 year old boy for his QP. How can this develope back into a "Hippie Culture?"
    Who knows, maybe the new "green culture" will develope some of the same caring, morals and awareness as the hippie culture had.
     
  8. #28 activ, Apr 27, 2009
    lol owned.
    sorry
     
  9. #29 njhippie, Apr 27, 2009
    But isn't the Hippie movement still the ideal course for humanity to take. So doesn't every person who chooses to live free of the commercialised materialism and the greed contribute to a more "hippie friendly" way of living for society at large.

    The 60s movement rose and fell but it showed us the potential we have to make dramatic changes in the direction of a more ideal (hippie-based) society.

    Why does failure in the 60s mean that we will fail the next time?
     
  10. #30 bopphacks, Apr 27, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 27, 2009


    What you keep preaching is idealism. Real hippies hated anything having to do with the government. So by you saying you think Obama has it right, you are going against what being a Hippie is TRULY about. Being a Hippie wasn't all "Peace and Love" and smoking pot all day. True hippies were into politics and actually gave a shit about changing things, and not just preaching some empty peace and love message. Of course, they were about peace and love, but you can't build bridges without burning some first.

    True Hippies didn't trust any politician as far as they could throw one. And why do you think the Green Movement has anything to do with peace, love, and being a Hippie? There is still a bogus war going on in the Middle East, and Obama wants to go to Pakistan now and terrorize yet another country in the name of "Freedom" and "Justice"...yeah fucking right. We live in an Imperialistic state that has been terrorizing countries since the 40's.

    So, fuck the Green movement. That isn't the most important thing on the agenda; it's just another way to distract people and make them feel like the Government is actually doing something! When, in retrospect, it is still keeping its barrage of terror and control on the rest of the world, and here in America. There are still people dying everywhere, and even our own troops are still dying for an absurd cause. That cause is Globalization. We aren't fighting "Terrorism," we are spreading our own Imperialistic agenda around the world, and imposing our way of life on other countries. If they don't abide with what WE want, we find a reason to invade them and destroy them. Whether it be economically or physically.

    I know a real hippie, and he said by the time the Hippie movement caught on, there were mostly posers as opposed to real Hippies who actually gave a shit. Most of them just rode the wave of the trend, and when it was over, went back to having a normal life. Real Hippies weren't lazy or good-for-nothing. They were trying to overthrow a system that has obviously failed, and continues to fail to this day. Learn some history buddy, and stop watching TV for your source of knowledge. After reading everything you have posted, you are just another uninformed poser.

    So, go back to supporting your Green movement and pretend you are doing something important, while the Government continues to strip away your civil liberties and rights. Because I mean hey, recycling is cool! Just take it from Green Elmo!

    [​IMG]

    *Oh, and for the record, real Hippies didn't actually like being called "Hippies." That was just the arbitrary name SOCIETY gave them.
     
  11. #31 njhippie, Apr 27, 2009
    First of all I never claimed to be a hippie myself despite my name which I really should change as I already have done to my email. I don't call myself a hippie anymore like I did when I was 17. I'm just a regular guy who wants to see positive change and I just so happen to believe that the "hippie movement" as it was labeled in the 60s provides a decent model for where we need to head as a society.

    I'm no Obama worshipper and I thought I made that clear already. I just happen to believe in some of the things he's changing like the turtore policy and his renewable energy plans. The guys a politiian and he's far from perfect but is it a problem if I agree with a lot of the things he is doing such as reversing so many failed Bush policies. I am entitled to my own opinion and I am not going to automatically disagree with the president because that would ACTUALLY be being a "poser" as you labeled me.

    What does having my own opinions about the direction we should head as a country and society have to do with being a so called "poser?"

    I am NOT a hippie or some hippie wannabe. I just happen to agree with a lot of the ideals that society labels as "hippie." I don't get why you would have a problem with that. Its what I believe in take it or leave it.

    I do differ from Obama's imperialistic tactics that remind me a lot of Bush but I believe that the swith over to renewable is more than an empty promice. It is a process that will take place over time but it will happen and it is ludicrous to claim that this is a non issue. It is an issue that effects the entire planet! Please read up on what scientists are finding about rising sea levels and the devastating impact it is likely to have on most coastal areas. This is not science fiction any more so get with the 21st century.

    And above all else who the hell are you to tell be that I am incincere in my beliefs and trying to pose as some kind of trendy fad. Who are you to tell me what MY values are and who are you to call me a phony.

    Sure I have joked about being such a hippie but I guess you missed my attempt at a little self ridicule of what I see sometimes see when I look at myself. "Oh I'm becoming such a hippie" is no different from saying im becoming chubby like santa clause. I'm not labeling myself as a hippie and trying to look cool.

    Who even cares about the label of Hippie? I was only saying that we would have a lot to gain as a society is we took examples from the hippies and I don't know where you got the idea I'm talking about "being lazy and smoking pot" or however you put it.

    I am actually referring to a PHILOSOPHY that aknowledges our fragile place on earth and our duty to work together to live sustainably. Food shortages, diseases, and massive floods are not plots from a science fiction movie they are real possibilities among many other things if we do not evolve as a society to a place where we can shift our focus from fighting each other to saving the human race.

    I don't see why one would disagree with such a fundamental reality but it is debate that makes the world go round. We are all trying to come up with the sollutions and have different ideas.

    What I do not tollerate is when someone comes in here and tells me that everyhting I believe in is a farrce and an attempt to look trendy. I am serious about the questions and comments I contribute and if we disagree can we at least recognise each other as genuine in intention?
     
  12. #32 njhippie, Apr 27, 2009
    I never claimed to be a "True hippie" and was it not you who pointed out that "hippie" is just a label given by society? What really ticks me off though is that you have the audacity to take all the things I have passionately posted about and call me a bullshitter. Who the hell are you to tell me what I do and don't give a shit about?

    When post a comment it is because I believe in the ideas I am posting about.
     
  13. #33 njhippie, Apr 27, 2009
    Now lets get this thread back on track! I believe we were talking about life in the 60s and about the people often labeled "neo hippies."

    We are also debating whether the 60's hippie movement is a good model for the direction society must strive toward.

    And we are free to disagree without belittling anyone's genuine opinions or theories.
     
  14. #34 bopphacks, Apr 27, 2009
    I never claimed you to be a true hippie either... Most of what I said was a general statement. I don't remember calling you a bullshitter either. I do remember saying you were uninformed. What I am telling you is, the way you keep referring to the "Hippie Movement" is mostly what it is on the blanket surface. Also, the way you refer to it as a failure is also laughable. I don't see how sparking social change was a failure. You can't expect an entire nation to act one certain way forever. That destroys social evolution, which is an unstoppable force.

    All I'm saying is, (from what I have read in this thread), you seem a little naive to me. That's it. Deal with that as you may.
     
  15. #35 WildWill, Apr 28, 2009
    All you really need to know about hippies is that in the 80's 90% of former hippies turned into Yuppies. That should tell you everything you need to know.

    I'm not a hippie, I'm only 38, but my Parents (father b. 1947, mother b. 1951) and my Uncles (b. 1946 & 1952) and all of their friends were around during the 60's. My mom's brother actually was a Hippie, didn't fight in Vietnam, protested the war, smoked a lot of pot, the whole 9 yards. Yeah, he turned into a yuppie scum.

    The Baby Boom generation has been and always will be about reacquiring the 50's ideal American lifestyle as depicted in so many pop-culture fictions. In the 60's, children of the 50's were merely being revolutionary in deference to their parents and the perceived injustices of the time. Yes, the civil rights movement did much for positive change, but Peace? Naw, they were simply protesting the war. Hell I've protested wars, doesn't make me a hippie, and it damn sure didn't do anything to stop the war.

    The hippie movement failed IMHO because they all got caught up in their own pathos and when they realized that even collectively they weren't being taken seriously, they just fell into the drug movement and the me-generation of the 70's and 80's, which I did live through.

    Hippies weren't all that. The 60's may have been a great time for music, free-love and drugs, but after 40 years, only those who were burnt out during that time would really want to go back.

    Instead of focusing on the past, move towards the future. WE have the true power to change our world, we have the technology and we have the capability. It remains to be seen if the children of the 21st century have the will do make the world a better place, because the children of the 50's sure didn't.
     
  16. #36 njhippie, Apr 28, 2009
    I know I didn't cover all the aspects of the hippie movement. I just was trying to give examples of parts of it that are very valuable to our society at this time. We don't need a repeat of the same exact movement all over again but certain parts of it like less materialism and greed and more concern for the environment would be very beneficial to modern society and its problems.

    Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying. I only got annoyed because I thought you were implying that I'm posing as something trendy and saying things for the sake of sounding trendy. I know I only scratched the surface of what the movement was about but I'm not trying to document the entire thing, just point out its useful philosophies that are valuable to some of our 21st century problems.
     
  17. #37 njhippie, Apr 28, 2009
    Yeah its really about the future not the past but to make changes in the 21st century we can probably learn many lessons of what does and doesn't work from what worked and what failed in the 60s.

    And it is true that the 60s movement did not fail to create lasting changes. It just didn't accomplish everything it could have and thats were we come in armed with the lessons we learned the hard way in the 60's of what is and isn't effective so we can accomplish more this time.

    The point is that is all has to be based on love and carried out in peaceful ways. We know from the 60s what riots get you!
     
Page 2 of 2

Share This Page