2nd grow - mars 300w - oxypot XL DWC SCROG- 1x1x2 kit from grow genius UK

Discussion in 'Hydroponic Grow Journals' started by Amhai, Mar 11, 2018.

  1. I thought this was a 1 foot tent not a 1 meter tent that's a shame I'm looking for anyone doing a micro grow on here in a 1 foot tent

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  2. the seedling is 1 foot tall on it's own, good luck with getting a grow in a 1 foot tent!
     
  3. Guy on another forum called mr sparkles can pull 3-5oz inside a pc stack, just gotta train em properly. ive grown a pounder that was under 2ft tall and my last plant nearly filled a 1.5sqm tent before it got to a foot tall. Just gotta work with what youve got, anythings possible :)

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  4. wow! I guess it is true, I think I have seen pictures of a pc case grow.

    must be hard work but a lot less hassle than my 1x1x2 tent taking up so much room in my bedroom

    I like having the space though :)
     
  5. Yeah man ive spoke to a few pc growers. Some of them do autos and deliberatly stunt them and chop everthing but the main cola. Ends up as a wee stumpy 20-25g bud and can fit a quite a few of them inside. Fuckin crazy like. Way out of my skill range tho it looks hard as fuck lol

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  6. Ooh another guy worth checking out is @stunted. I dont think hes around anymore but a quick google will find his grows. He managed to grow half ouncers in shot glasses!!

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  7. Wow that's amazing!

    I think one of those will be really good fun to do

    I may even try to do something with the PC case and the Mars 300

    I wonder if I can do it if I chop off all the sun leaves and just have the main Cola like you say, that might be a fun experiment to do if I have a spare light!
     
  8. Wow that's amazing!

    I think one of those will be really good fun to do

    I may even try to do something with the PC case and the Mars 300

    I wonder if I can do it if I chop off all the sun leaves and just have the main Cola like you say, that might be a fun experiment to do if I have a spare light!
     
  9. Never paid much attention to what lights they used tbh i just thought it was cool so got involved. Mix of cfl and low watt led tho im sure. 3w diodes sounds familar.

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  10. seed 1 day 35
    leaves?
    seed 2 day 25
    roots

    Plants are good, a bit discoloured on the leaves of seed 1 but all is ok I think. I plan on diluting the reservoir with ph 4 water when it gets some room (an inch below the warning sticker will fit 5L)

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    ph 5.7 (+0.2)
    ppm 615 (+136) anomaly from yesterday
    Ec 1235 (+14)
     
  11. seed 1 day 36
    taller
    seed 2 day 26
    fresh

    Both plants look good this morning. I twisted the net pot of seed 2 so the leaves don't overlap seed 1's leaves. It's hard to imagine it getting spread over the scrog, I'll have to look up some grow journals that use a scrog and see what the first actions are. Should be weaving soon, is it just a case of weaving so that all bud sights are at a similar level?

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    I took some photos with the flash on so I can catch the top leaves. Seed 2 is getting some sweet new shoots.

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    ph 5.6 (-0.1)
    ppm 600 (-15)
    Ec 1200 (-35)
     
  12. I see pistils mate one of ems started preflower so theyre not gonna need the net. You really need to drop that feed strength aswell man thats whats keeping them so small.
    The roots are intellegent, theyll only take in what they want from the mix but that rule only applies if they have the right level of nutrients at the right ph and temperature. Over feed them and they just wont do anything. Theyre still seedling size so need a seedling sized feed. My plants are a metre square before i give them that much. Less is more mate.

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  13. gotcha mate thanks!, I will just keep adding water when it needs it and not add any nutes. I will probably get a good grow out of the next one! this one is doing better than the previous though

    in fact, considering getting a longer and smaller tent for a move around in my room.

    turns out that an oxypotXL and 1x1x2 tent was a little too much for what I wanted.

    its all good, I've been stoned for weeks on my first grow already :)
     
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  14. seed 1 day 37
    tall
    seed 2 day 27
    weak?

    I can see the plants growing but they seem weaker than the previous grow at this point

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    this is the previous grow at 37 days
    037 seed 1.jpg

    Seed 1 leaves look like they're starting to flower already
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    Still not enough room for water to be added to the reservoir yet. I hope they will get through the next few weeks!

    Ph hasn't been rising as much as I remember it doing previously, pretty much stayed at the sam level +/- 0.2

    It's still only the 6th week though :)

    The purple bud page says

    So it's possible that it has moved on to the flowering stage. Maybe I should start with the LED light next time like I did before. It kept the seed shorter but fatter.

    Ph 5.5 (-0.1)
    ppm 614 (+14)
    Ec 1221 (+21)
     
  15. #95 Amhai, Apr 18, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2018
    seed 1 day 38
    taller
    seed 2 day 28
    Bend

    Both plants look like they have grown, still looking less substantial than the last grow in terms of amount of leaves. Seed 2 is growing with a bend, probably due to the scrog which I'm thinking I wont need to use.

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    I do think this is due to the seedlings growing tall early, that was due to the light being far away and they were reaching. I saw some example LED distances posted somewhere so I'm going to try that next time although these aren't set in stone measurements, I think put it as close as it will go without bleaching the leaves. Only worry about the germination.
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    The distance between the branch growths is different between plants. I feel it is has more distance than the previous grow at this stage. Possibility is that I'm using much more air this time around, I didn't turn up the air until this day in the growth last time.

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    Previous grow at 38 days
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    It's much bushier, I did the first little seedling part in the propagator under a cover with a piece of paper on top to stop the LED's from being too bright for the seedling. Perhaps that is why they grew more as shorter plants before?

    Perhaps the plants can recover from their nute overdosing and light discrepancies and produce an ounce or two. Still over half way to go so I'm not too worried. Looking at my last grow journal, I can see that the ph and Ec weren't changing that much until after day 40.

    Ph 5.5 (+0)
    ppm 583 (-31)
    Ec 1189 (-32)
     
  16. #96 Amhai, Apr 19, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2018
    seed 1 day 39
    scrawny
    seed 2 day 29
    Bendy

    Plants are growing but looking a little like they didn't do legs day at the gym! much less leaf growth on these compared to the last

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    I removed the scrog but put it back because I could use some ties to spread the leaves out.

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    seed 2 started bending under it's own weight so I used ties on that too.

    Still not using as much water as last time, probably due to less leaf growth. I'm certain it was because of the rapid growth early on, it thinned out the stalk to be able to hold the leaves.

    Definitely going with a LED at 24" over germinating cubes next time. Perhaps even in a warming tray seeing as that worked so well last time.

    Ph 5.5 (+0)
    ppm 610 (+27)
    Ec 1221 (+32)
     
  17. seed 1 day 40
    still there
    seed 2 day 30
    adjust

    Plants look like nothing extra to worry about since using ties to spread the branches out so no leaves get in the shade. Still looking a little scrawny though.

    I added a teensy bit of PhUp and it has raised it from 5.5 to 5.7 which I'm happy with.

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    Ph 5.7 (+0.2)
    ppm 609 (-1)
    Ec 1217 (-4)
     
  18. Mate when are you gonna drop that res strength lol. Its literally the only thing youve done wrong and whats causing all your issues but you refuse to lower it. Theyll keep getting worse and worse till you do like. Absolutely zero chance of improvement otherwise. Ive been telling you this since day 1

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  19. #99 Amhai, Apr 20, 2018
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2018
    calm yer tits mate!, as I said before, I'll add water when theres room! Probably tomorrow :)

    seriously though , i'll swap some out with regular water later
     
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  20. okey dokey!

    swapped out 15L of water with regular tap water in order to reduce the ppm as Spanish@rcher says.

    it's at 500 ish now, the first grow was at 750 and grew to be a monster but the discolouration on the leaves that isn't bleaching is a sign

    had that on the first grow too.

    I'll see how it performs over the coming days and if @rcher is gonna say ,"I told you so!" lol
     
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