2012 is NOT end of the world

Discussion in 'General' started by wackdeafboy, Aug 5, 2008.

  1. http://www.exitmundi.nl/Maya.htm

    ill it be the end of everything? Or will it be the dawning of the age of Aquarius? No one really knows. One thing's for sure, though. December 21st of the year 2012 is the day time as we know it will end.
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    So at least claim the Maya's, that ancient civilization that lived in the Mesoamerica's since 2,600 BC. The Maya's had an extremely complicated method of keeping track of time, based on three separate calendars. The most important, most encompassing of these calendars holds the `Long Count': the period from the beginning until the end of time. And on December 21st 2012, the Long Count expires. It will be point zero. Time will be up for the Universe. It will be, literally, the end of days.
    Big deal, you might say. Still, there's a couple of very interesting (and disturbing) facts about the Maya calendar's end. Most intriguing, 21-12-2012 is not a day like any other. Up in the sky, an extraordinary and incredibly rare event will take place. The Sun will move to a unique spot in the sky -- and hold still for a while, since it is solstice day. The Sun will sit precisely on the heavenly crossroads between the Milky Way and the galactic equinox, forming a perfect alignment with the center of the galaxy.
    Er... what?
    Well: the night time sky is crossed by several mathematical lines. One is the axis of the Milky Way -- the Milky Way, as you may know, being that bright band of stars you can see running across the heavens on a clear night. Another important line is the cosmological ecliptic: the axis along which the constellations travel, the line that defines coordinates in space.
    You can say a lot about the Maya, but you've got to hand it to them: they knew a hell of a lot about stars. For instance, they calculated the exact duration of a year to a thousandth of a decimal point, much more precise than any Greek or enlightened philosopher ever did. Also, they were able to predict every solar and lunar eclipse until this day. And obviously, they knew where the galactic equinox and the exact middle of the Milky Way lay: they called this crossing `the Sacred Tree'.
    More disturbing, the Maya's were awfully good at astrology, too. Mysteriously, they predicted in what year their civilization would be overrun by foreigners coming from over the seas. Legend has it they even predicted the world wars. So if a Maya tells you the world will end in 2012, you'd better take it seriously.
    But actually, the Maya's never predicted anything concrete about 2012. That may have something to do with our ill knowledge about Maya culture: when the Spanish ransacked the land, they burnt literally every Maya book they could find. Only a handful of scriptures survived. And in them, there's not a clue about what happens when the Maya calendar ends.
    So what awaits us in 2012 basically is an open question. And as with so many open questions, countless doom preachers, semi-prophets and other crackpots pop up to provide an answer. The interpretation you hear most: 2012 will mark the coming of a new, glorious age of wisdom and peace. It will be Age Of Aquarius at last, with a world full of peace, love and understanding.
    The reasoning behind this is actually not that stupid. The Maya's didn't really believed in endings: their conception of time was circular, with every end being the beginning of something new. So, 2012 shouldn't be an exception.
    Also, the Maya's had a highly developed philosophy of the cosmos. They saw the cosmos as the true mother of things. Consequently, the Maya's thought the cosmos is all around us, and within us. Every plant, every animal, every man is sheer Cosmos.
    So, New Age philosophers say, December 21st 2012 will be the day on which this inner cosmos is reconnected to the divine outer cosmos. The Sun will mount its unique position to form a `gateway' between the Universe and the souls of every living creature on Earth. Our linear conception of time will crumble, and with it, fear and hatred will vanish. It will be purification at it's very best, when everyone is soaked in cosmic understanding and divine love.<o:p> </o:p>
    So there it is: on December 20th, you'll kick your dog, yell at your spouse and cheat on cards. But a day later, you'll be calmed down into a peaceful dude with nothing but love and understanding to guide you in life. Even though it's mid-winter, it'll be summer of love for all humanity.<o:p> </o:p>
    Other doomsayers foresee doom and destruction. December 21st will be the day the Earth will be destroyed. Some think it will be because of some nuclear war, some say it will be because it's biblical judgment day. Even others take the ending of the Maya calendar more literally, and claim the Universe will just cease to exist. Zzzzp!, gone.<o:p> </o:p>
    There's something to be said in favor of such sinister scenario's, too. The Maya divided their Long Count into five lumps of time, called Great Cycles. And every cycle had a well defined end. For example, after period number one, a Jaguar came by and ate everyone on Earth. Well, it's the Maya saying this, not me!
    The second cycle ended in air, the third in fire, the fourth in flood. And what about the last period, the stretch of time we're in? The Earth will be destroyed by earthquakes, is the interpretation some scholars give to the etchy-sketchy remains of the Maya culture. That needs emphasizing, because the last word on Maya timekeeping isn't said yet: almost every year new books on the issue are published.

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    So, what are we to make of it all? Will it be time's up in 2012? Well: we at Exit Mundi wouldn't bet on it.<o:p> </o:p>
    Don't forget: there are many, many religions predicting some kind of end to the world. And the Maya prediction attracts a lot of attention now, merely because their end date is so well-defined, and because the Maya Deadline is only a couple of time-ticks away.<o:p> </o:p>
    And what about that awesome phenomenon of the Sun sitting in the heart of the Tree of Life? Well, that happened before. The Sun passes the Tree every 25,800 years. That's a lot of years, but since the Earth exists for an astonishing 4,5 billion years, the Earth survived the `divine event' more than 150,000 times already!
    What's more, the last six times the phenomenon occurred, modern humans already walked the planet. Obviously, it didn't have much effect on our spiritual lives. It certainly didn't stop the Spanish from butchering some 800,000 Maya's in the sixteenth century.

    EDIT: whoa, i have no clue why it has bunch of smily faces
    well just go to that site and read it, its better then here lol
  2. All of this is falsifiable.

    You can't really prove anything until we either pass through 2012 without anything happening or the opposite.
  3. Were all going to die december 22 2012
  4. you can't prove it won't happen, and i can't prove it will. only time can tell.
  5. what about christmas i was gonna tho a big party that year
  6. Exactly. It is extremely insular to judge the outcome of the world as we know it based off one article.

  7. i agree, although the article was interesting

    until i read this

    in a world with humans......are u serious?

    and the second part just made me laugh
  8. I could prove it won't happen.
  9. On december 23, 2012 yes, yes you oculd.

    Before then?

    No you can't.
  10. No [to your whole statement]. I know, for a fact, the 'world' will not end on 2012. In my eyes, anyway. It all depends on what you believe.

    If a tree falls and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
  11. Before you even answer with the thoughts of me just saying random things to sound smart...

    The world, as an object, can't just cease to exist. What is your definition of the "end" of the world?
  12. Well, you do not know for a fact that the world couldn't just cease to exist.

    Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't.

    We could just blink out of existence.

    There is no evidence to prove that it is possible, but you cannot disprove it either, even with laws of physics, we do not know if our laws of physics are actually correct.

    Do I think it will? No, but to prove that it won't happen is just as impossible as proving it will happen.
  13. i think you are going to a realm that humans arent capable of understanding now
  14. WOW!!! i'm here just showin the kool site, not to bash eachother lol
    everybody, CHILL, lets take a hit lol

    yeah its true, only time can tell....

  15. Lol, I didn't see any bashing going on, we're all just talkin dawg.
  16. I think that we aren't capable of understanding anything. We understand the things that we have made. [languages, physics, laws-of-lands, religions, etc.]

    This shit is VERY simple...

    We[human-beings] were created somehow. That's the only thing we, really, need to understand. The world won't end in 2012. I don't care who said it. I'm not a Christian... I'm not anything, really. But we were created - however we were created is what I call God. That's all I am suppose to "understand".

    As far as knowing, this place has been around for billions of years(according to scientist). And 4.55 billion to be exact. (give or take 1%)... But aside from what they say, I think this place has been here for a long-ass time. And to say it's going to end at a certain time is just another way to sell books. There are signs of American coming to a downfall, but not the world ending. If anything, everything will be wiped-out, but it won't end.

    The Mayans said that 2012 will be the beginning of a new world and the end of an old one. That doesn't mean the world is ceasing-to-exist. It's not going to end.

    Let me add, please ---

    I'm not a religious person. I believe that everyone is right. No matter what you believe, you are right. As long as you REALLY believe it.
  17. Yeah - exactly. I like people that actually interact back. We are all beings here. Everyone has their own thoughts - they are to be shared, right?

    Peace blade. :smoke:
  18. I agree with pretty much everything you said, but my point is very simple as well.

    It is impossible to prove that the earth, the universe, and all of creation won't just cease to exist tomorrow, two weeks from now, or in 2012.
  19. I think there will be a few things going on before, around, & after 2012. I think one might be a Pole Shift & the other being government(s) make contact with ET'S or they finally come out and say were not alone and they have proof. I mean as if we don't know were not alone in the universe duh!
  20. Hmm... well the Age of Aquarius is a supposed "golden age"... that's one evidence that the world probably won't end.

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