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This has been floating around the web for years

no doubt promoted by the non Neem community

besides you...

like many confuse CHS with excess Neem Consumption

besides Neem is used ion many eastern food recipes

my own beef curries an example

as for CHS Who ever heard of that until legislation and over consumption?

chill

 

None of the links your provided are to scientific evidence of anything but clickbait articles most likely propagated by the herbacide industry, which has billions to lose from people turning to organics, and have absolutely no grounding in legitimate scientific proof, you know, the kind brought about by actual scientists conducting peer reviewed research that was published in a respectable journal.

Many people use neem on a daily basis and not just to spray on their plants without issue. Please check your facts.

 

You can find harmful articles for just about anything

 

People have been using neem forever. Chs just came about the past few years.

 

I don't use It myself. No need

 

ive never used Neem oil but ive just googled it ,,and although lots of people use with no ill effects theres quite a large number of sites saying it can build up in the body if your a heavy smoker ,,but as ive said ive never used it and dont think i will now use it ,, i think it needs more looking in to about the safety ..could people are using to much of it on their plants etc,,,, mac,

 

What about neem seed meal,used as a top dress and in the soil mix?

 

You know you can even get poisoned from water?
Water intoxication - Wikipedia
You need to developcritical thinking skills. Here is the case report:
Neem oil poisoning: Case report of an adult with toxic encephalopathy


This person who got neem poisoning, first of all was a 73 years old type 2 diabetic, and he got it from consuming 20ml of neem oil but fully recovered after hospital treatment.
Now, If you consider that
A: Azadirachtin quickly degrades from exposure to light and
B. Even if you consumed cannabis that was just sprayed with neem and kept in the dark before consumption, which never happens, you would have to ingest a few pounds of cannabis to get 20ml of neem oil in your system. And how can you take an article that says that 20ml is not a lot, thats 4 teaspoons of neem oil you would have to drink out of the bottle to be at risk from neem poisoning (which is rare according to the case study you are referring to)

None of the sources you brought forth provide a shred of scientific evidence that CHS is caused by neem toxicity. Unless you consider "As far as I can tell" to be legitimate scientific evidence, its not.

 

How can you have more if you start with none?
No we dont love neem, we love fact and scientific proof. not anecdotal articles which are based on nothing more then the authors opinion.

 

This might Rock your Sox

Poisoned by neem oil?

 

Man Boobs And Marijuana: Is THC A Proven Cause Of 'Moobs'?

Far too worried about man boobs to be concerned about neem!

For the sake of gender appropriate breasts you guys should stop smoking marijuana immediately.

RD

 

the real risk you've exposed people to is incomplete information. azadirachtin has a half of up to ~3 days when applied as a foliar to leaf surfaces. it really depends upon the mix ratio and the amount of exposure to uv from the lighting source. less has always proved to be best so a dilute neem solution would border on the low end of half life which is described in minutes. further, azadirachtin has an ld50 of ~4000 mg/kg in rats. that is a very large amount of 100% azadirachtin for your average rat to eat. convert that to an average canna growers weight and you should be able to quickly see that toxicity to an average human would come only after consuming a large amount of azadirachtin. not very likely.

experienced growers using neem know of a few shortcomings of neem and adjust their use accordingly but as far as it being deadly to humans in vaporized microgram doses that's just plain bullshit. if a person would use a neem foliar up to the day of harvest by the time the budz are dried enough to smoke all the diluted azadirachtin will have gone bye-bye.

just another myth. but...don't be eating neem cake every morning with your porridge. that could be - could be - harmful.

 

*I* certainly ended up with a toxic soil from constant, frequent (though light), top dressings over several years. Toxic to the plants, not so much anything grown from that soil and not so much from neem added to the fresh mix as that never exceded 1cup/cf. But constant bi-weekly top dressings took their toll after a couple/3 seasons.

The soil was still toxic after one year with no neem added.

If anything, I will now only add 1/2cup/cf globally to fresh mixes and NO top dressings. This is what was recc way back as sufficient for soil pest suppression with the 1cup/cf as the max amount you should add.

However, the plants and worms both loved it till the azadirachtin built up enough to affect plant growth/development.

Wet