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dude i would pass on both just like yawbus suggests. the first one - china glass + super drag because of shitty design/quality the second one -...
omg those are amazingly beautiful... there have been a lot of threads with really nice work like this lately... realllllllllly nice mannn
damnn that red one is so fuckin sick. and the other one has an awesome color scheme.. havnt seen much like it, love those black spirals on it.
damn dude you destroyed that thing!!! nice! and yea dude the iso + salt + ziplock bag is the best way to go.. so easy to clean that.