The Official Codex Alimentarius Discussion Thread

great stuff salvial..im just ready and waiting for civil war..cause you know that even though america has become a complacent and lazy country..we are still rebels at heart, and we would attempt to protect ourselves. writing your congressman doesnt do a thing but waste trees (well if we used hemp paper who cares, but NO we have to use the plants that give us the oxygen we need to breathe)

and I better not hear from a stoner that its okay to use trees instead of hemp.

 

Yes. Seriously make a seperate thread to talk about our weirdness. Im with you on this one dude. No more wool over my eyes about anything. Research your own knowledge.

 

What is the lethal toxicity of Fluoride?

wait, I think i just found it...

This is a very scary thread.

 

I legally have to take a pill containing fluoridic compounds.

 

court ordered? and what.."anti-psycotics"..

all anti drugs do nothing but bring about what they are trying to prevent

 

I posted about this on imminst.org a while back also:
http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=15302&hl=Codex+Alimentarius

From one of the posters:
" \t\t\t\t"Why won't these Guidelines restrict U.S. consumers' access to vitamin and mineral supplements?

Some consumers mistakenly believe that with the adoption of the Guidelines on Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements, the U.S. is required to automatically change its laws and regulations to comply with the international standard. Some have expressed concerns that the World Trade Organization (WTO) and its trade dispute settlement panels may place pressure on the U.S. to change its laws because of international trade agreements such as the Agreement on the Application of Sanitary and Phytosanitary Measures (SPS Agreement), which references Codex as the international organization for food safety standards.

We see no basis for these concerns. First, the DSHEA covers a much broader range of dietary supplements than the vitamin and mineral supplements that are the subject of the Codex Guidelines. Moreover, for supplements covered by these Guidelines, we note the following:

* The SPS Agreement does not require a country to adopt any international standard. Rather, the SPS Agreement provides that members may base their Sanitary and Phytosanitary measures either on international standards, guidelines or recommendations, where they exist, or may establish measures that result in a higher level of protection if there is a scientific justification, or if a country determines it to be appropriate in accord with provisions of the SPS Agreement (SPS Agreement, Article 3(1) and (3)).
* WTO and WTO dispute panels do not have the power to change U.S. law. If a WTO decision in response to a dispute settlement panel is adverse to the U.S., only Congress and the Administration can decide whether to implement the panel recommendation, and, if so, how to implement it.
* For dietary supplements, it is unlikely that another country will accuse the U.S. of imposing a trade barrier for the importation of supplement products into the U.S. marketplace because the U.S. laws and regulations are generally broader in scope and less restrictive than the international standard.
* However, other countries with more restrictive laws and regulations for dietary supplement products than the U.S. may create trade barriers to the importation of products manufactured by the U.S. dietary supplement industry. Thus, the U.S. government's involvement in the setting of international standards can help minimize the potential of trade barriers to U.S products in international trade.

Further, there is no basis for the concern that the Codex Guidelines on Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements would require dietary supplements be sold as prescription drugs in the United States. First, there is nothing in the Guidelines that suggests that supplements be sold as drugs requiring a prescription. Second, U.S. regulatory agencies are bound by the laws established by Congress, not by Codex standards. Third, because of our generally less restrictive standards, it is unlikely that the trade dispute would be brought against the U.S.

In summary, U.S. consumers' access to a broad array of dietary supplements under DSHEA would not be changed in any way by Codex's adoption of guidelines on vitamin and mineral food supplements."

http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/dscodex.html"

Also, Scientific American had a really good article about fluoride and its health effects... basically they said we should lower our fluoride intake, but we also shouldn't be super worried about it. I'll read it again and post some updates
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=second-thoughts-on-fluoride

 

ok this concerns me much, much more than the excess fluoride in our water supply:

"A vast array of pharmaceuticals - including antibiotics, anti-convulsants, mood stabilizers and sex hormones - have been found in the drinking water supplies of at least 41 million Americans, an Associated Press investigation shows."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080309/ap_on_re_us/pharmawater_i

So I guess most of us are drinking fluoride + low dose pharmaceuticals on a daily basis. I know that many bottled waters use tap water, so bottled water isn't necessarily better either.

 

this is set to go into effect december 2009

i personally will be growing my own fruits and vegetables to survive from, since all the foods will be genetically altered to contain near non existent amounts of nutrition


for those who are wondering, the purpose of codex alimentarius is to reduce the population from around 6billion to something like 500,000

and with the lowered population, it will be much more difficult for the population to revolt, and the new world order will come into effect, we need to act soon, but by the time people realize this isnt some conspiracy theory it will be too late and billions will have died of starvation and preventable illness

i really wish america would wake the fuck up! but they just wont, everyone is still under the delusion that america is the greatest country in the world that honestly cares about its citizens.. although other countries may not have all the so called freedoms we have (such as the useless freedom of religion, boo hoo) at least their government isnt conspiring to kill them off in their quest for world domination

 

I'm not saying we should use trees for paper, But oxygen production is the wrong reason to make the switch, The amount of oxygen an acre of hemp would produce is larger than the acre of trees. New growth trees between a year and 15 years old would produce more oxygen and if the loggers planted one tree per one removed they would also be a renewable resource for paper as well.

BUT the chemical process to turn wood into paper is much more damaging to the earth than the chemical process for turning hemp into paper. (this is also why recycling paper is a bad idea.)

 

Tap Water Quality:
http://www.ewg.org/tapwater/findings.php

Find Your Water Provider's Quality:
http://www.ewg.org/tapwater/yourwater/index.php

more links:
http://www.imminst.org/forum/water-filtration-t20494.html

 

Trees are pretty.

Sorry im just really high.

 

What about well water? Is it better to drink that?

 

"- Dietary supplements could not be sold for preventive (prophylactic) or therapeutic use.
- Potencies would be limited to extremely low dosages. Only the drug companies and the big phytopharmaceutical companies would have the right to produce and sell the higher potency products (at inflated prices).
- Prescriptions would be required for anything above the extremely low doses allowed (such as 35 mg. on niacin).
- Common foods such as garlic and peppermint would be classified as drugs or a third category (neither food nor drugs) that only big pharmaceutical companies could regulate and sell. Any food with any therapeutic effect can be considered a drug, even benign everyday substances like water.
- Codex regulations for dietary supplements would become binding (escape clauses would be eliminated).
- All new dietary supplements would be banned unless they go through Codex testing and approval.
- Genetically altered food would be sold worldwide without labeling.
- All animals bred for food will be treated with growth hormones.
- 7 of the 9 MOST DANGEROUS used chemicals, most of which TOXIC PESTICIDES [2], will be legalized and allowed for use by farmers."

this is really badly written, when could dietry supliments not be sold for preventative or theroputic use?