Vaping after Tolerance break?

Hows it going everyone , I'm not new to this site, I've been coming here for answers to my weed questions for months but just decided to join the forums

I have a question. Recently I've been smoking a lot everyday probably like 2-3 joints a day for the last 2 weeks straight and felt my highs weren't the same. Prior to this Id smoke one joint a day for probably about a few months (or atleast I tried too) but I recently started buying larger quantities of herbs and find myself smoking bud like they are cigarettes, lol.

I'm currently on a short T-break, so I can get high again
While on my T-break I actually bought a cheap whip vape (nothing to special)

So Here's where my questions begin; I was wondering which should I use first to get high with? Should I smoke a nice joint? Or should I use the vape?

Also would vaping boost my tolerance to insane degrees again there for negating my torturous t-break?

I was lead to believe that if I vape after a tolerance break than I would not able to get high off any joints or blunts after that because the vape's THC concentration is much higher. Is there truth to this?

It would truly suck to use my vape after my T-break is over and not get high off any other joints I roll later on that day.

For me a vape high is different then smoke a joint or outta a bong. I would enjoy a j your first time back and then a vape.
And no, using the vape after a t break won't change anything Haha. You'll still be fucked up the next time.

Lol That's good to hear, I hear the vape high and smoking high are different, Which leads me to another question

Say I take your advice and smoke a nice j my first time back would vaping while my high is coming down boost my smoke high(IE Id feel as if I smoke another joint) or still give me a vape high?

Lol I'm really just curious about how a vape high feels, I really don't give a shit afterwards, I'll just smoke and vape later on but I wanna know if being already high from smoking would affect how my vape high feels if I were to toke later on during the day when I'm coming down from the smoke high.

Hope that doesn't sound to confusing

I understand what you're saying. I don't know man usually when I smoke a vape I'm at a friends house and we smoke outta other things too.
So honestly, I don't know if it would boost it back up or change your buzz all together.

it would be like smoking another smaller joint basically if its just one bowl for the vape then its just going to extend the high a little bit but not much else

you should report back once you smoke

I would vape then smoke the joint

Im about to find this out myself Ive been on a tbreak and just invested in da buddha .Im planning on ghosting 2 hits and call it a night

Vaporizing doesn't add thc to the bud.. You just got to do less than a joint's worth in your bowl. Not to be an ass or anything too, but if you picked up some random vape, I don't think the efficiency would be all too stellar.
So my official answer is no, it's not going to explode your tolerance cause it's a vape. It would make your tolerance go up, cause it's weed. lol

Holy fucking shit. I just vaped in my car for about 15 minutes on temputure 310 and I AM FUCKING HIGH. OH MY GOD; WEED IS GREAT.....VAPE > YOU:eek:

Holy fucking shit. I just vaped in my car for about 15 minutes on temputure 310 and I AM FUCKING HIGH. OH MY GOD; WEED IS GREAT.....VAPE > YOU:eek:

Might want to turn that up a bit bro, at least to 360

Lol That's good to hear, I hear the vape high and smoking high are different, Which leads me to another question

Say I take your advice and smoke a nice j my first time back would vaping while my high is coming down boost my smoke high(IE Id feel as if I smoke another joint) or still give me a vape high?

Lol I'm really just curious about how a vape high feels, I really don't give a shit afterwards, I'll just smoke and vape later on but I wanna know if being already high from smoking would affect how my vape high feels if I were to toke later on during the day when I'm coming down from the smoke high.

Hope that doesn't sound to confusing

How do you own a vape but not know how it feels?

It honestly won't really matter which you smoke first but I personally would roll up a fat celebratory blunt, or if that's not your thing a bong, or joint, and get cooked off my ass. Blunts just get you fried as hell and are a good way to celebrate.

Then when you're coming down vape a bowl, it'll put you into outerspace, but slightly different than a smoking high (it'll still feel heavy cause of the comedown but it won't be a complete smoking high.

The chemistry of THC activation is the same whether you use a vaporizer or put it in a water bong.

So why does everyone talk about THC and not THC-COOH? Well, if you heat things with COOH groups, they can lose carbon dioxide and just be left with H (a hydrogen atom, not too polar). So when you heat THC-COOH in a joint by lighting the joint on fire, that heat causes the THC-COOH to lose CO2 and become THC (the same thing happens in a vaporizer).

In order for molecules to get inside your brain and have any effect they must pass through the blood-brain barrier. It is extremely difficult for polar molecules to pass this barrier. So, turning the more popular THC-COOH ( Which has extreme trouble getting into your brain and thus into your receptors) by use of HEAT and HEAT ONLY can the overwhelming majority of THC molecules get to your brain.

Now, the theory behind the use of vaporizers is very basic. People believe/assume that because they are not fully combusting the matter until it is a matter of carbon ash they are somehow consuming THC in a less harmful manner. Harm Reduction is the theory behind vaporizers. But is it true? Is it as effective as what is said or hyped.

Simple put, No. Its a falsification. Misinformation. The chemical process of turning THC-COOH into THC involved CO2. And in vaporizing, this CO2 does not magically escape or refuse to enter the human body. CO2 is a requirement to the activation of THC. Without it, we wouldn't get that high, as cannabis has very little natural THC in its natural state.

More so, of the known chemical compounds within cannabis ( this is a evolving variable-as one cannabis is not the same from specimen to specimen) all active at relatively low temps. Foreign chemical compounds, not native to the natural plant are a inmeasurable property because of its variation from specimen to specimen.

So, this talk of Vaporizing having less carcinogens and less harmful substances, from a scientific point of view, is merely speculation at best.

Might want to turn that up a bit bro, at least to 360

You think so ? I hear even 310 is a bit high, because 320 had me coughing a bit - but that could be because I was hitting it harder than I should have.

Isn't a vape like an oven you can smoke out of ? Wouldn't anything above 325 start to burn?

How do you own a vape but not know how it feels?

I just bought it the other day. When I had posted originally I had not used it yet. My first time vaping was yesterday.

It honestly won't really matter which you smoke first but I personally would roll up a fat celebratory blunt, or if that's not your thing a bong, or joint, and get cooked off my ass. Blunts just get you fried as hell and are a good way to celebrate.

Then when you're coming down vape a bowl, it'll put you into outerspace, but slightly different than a smoking high (it'll still feel heavy cause of the comedown but it won't be a complete smoking high.

Excellent idea!!! Smoking highs are great but the come downs have my head pounding and just suck but that doesn't happen so much with a vape. I will definitely try this - Smoke first than vape when coming down . I vaped first and than smoked when coming down and woke up groggy this morning, lol - but i definitely was high as a kite last night.

The chemistry of THC activation is the same whether you use a vaporizer or put it in a water bong.

So why does everyone talk about THC and not THC-COOH? Well, if you heat things with COOH groups, they can lose carbon dioxide and just be left with H (a hydrogen atom, not too polar). So when you heat THC-COOH in a joint by lighting the joint on fire, that heat causes the THC-COOH to lose CO2 and become THC (the same thing happens in a vaporizer).

In order for molecules to get inside your brain and have any effect they must pass through the blood-brain barrier. It is extremely difficult for polar molecules to pass this barrier. So, turning the more popular THC-COOH ( Which has extreme trouble getting into your brain and thus into your receptors) by use of HEAT and HEAT ONLY can the overwhelming majority of THC molecules get to your brain.

Now, the theory behind the use of vaporizers is very basic. People believe/assume that because they are not fully combusting the matter until it is a matter of carbon ash they are somehow consuming THC in a less harmful manner. Harm Reduction is the theory behind vaporizers. But is it true? Is it as effective as what is said or hyped.

Simple put, No. Its a falsification. Misinformation. The chemical process of turning THC-COOH into THC involved CO2. And in vaporizing, this CO2 does not magically escape or refuse to enter the human body. CO2 is a requirement to the activation of THC. Without it, we wouldn't get that high, as cannabis has very little natural THC in its natural state.

More so, of the known chemical compounds within cannabis ( this is a evolving variable-as one cannabis is not the same from specimen to specimen) all active at relatively low temps. Foreign chemical compounds, not native to the natural plant are a inmeasurable property because of its variation from specimen to specimen.

So, this talk of Vaporizing having less carcinogens and less harmful substances, from a scientific point of view, is merely speculation at best.

So in short you're saying the "health" benefits from vaping that everyone glamorizes are false?

Edited by Combustion Man, 13 July 2012 - 05:51 PM.

The chemistry of THC activation is the same whether you use a vaporizer or put it in a water bong.

So why does everyone talk about THC and not THC-COOH? Well, if you heat things with COOH groups, they can lose carbon dioxide and just be left with H (a hydrogen atom, not too polar). So when you heat THC-COOH in a joint by lighting the joint on fire, that heat causes the THC-COOH to lose CO2 and become THC (the same thing happens in a vaporizer).

In order for molecules to get inside your brain and have any effect they must pass through the blood-brain barrier. It is extremely difficult for polar molecules to pass this barrier. So, turning the more popular THC-COOH ( Which has extreme trouble getting into your brain and thus into your receptors) by use of HEAT and HEAT ONLY can the overwhelming majority of THC molecules get to your brain.

Now, the theory behind the use of vaporizers is very basic. People believe/assume that because they are not fully combusting the matter until it is a matter of carbon ash they are somehow consuming THC in a less harmful manner. Harm Reduction is the theory behind vaporizers. But is it true? Is it as effective as what is said or hyped.

Simple put, No. Its a falsification. Misinformation. The chemical process of turning THC-COOH into THC involved CO2. And in vaporizing, this CO2 does not magically escape or refuse to enter the human body. CO2 is a requirement to the activation of THC. Without it, we wouldn't get that high, as cannabis has very little natural THC in its natural state.

More so, of the known chemical compounds within cannabis ( this is a evolving variable-as one cannabis is not the same from specimen to specimen) all active at relatively low temps. Foreign chemical compounds, not native to the natural plant are a inmeasurable property because of its variation from specimen to specimen.

So, this talk of Vaporizing having less carcinogens and less harmful substances, from a scientific point of view, is merely speculation at best.

-sigh- you know a lot, but all of a sudden it seems you just forgot a bunch of stuff halfway.

You think that CO2 is the only unhealthy part about smoking? You think it's unhealthy at all? No....just no....

There's a LOT more stuff that's released while smoking that is NOT released while vaping.

All the "known" chemical compounds you speak of are ALL active. We want them ALL. So yes, they all have relatively low flashpoints - and they are all released in a vaporizer. But those are the good things.

The plant material - and tar and carcinogens released from smoking activate at much higher temperatures - some are even significantly changed in the process of combustion.

This doesn't happen with vaporizing - and I'm happy to show you several studies that prove this beyond a doubt. There is no speculation in this. I'm not sure what single article you read that led you to believe such hilariously misinterpreted information - but you're absolutely incorrect.

The high temperatures of combustion not only release FAR more chemical compounds (the percentage of actives in smoke is around 15%, the percentage of actives in vapor is 90%+), but they also destroy up to 50% of the THC you're trying to get. We aren't talking about foreign compounds not native to the plant - we're talking about the plant material itself.

Sorry, but your post couldn't possibly be more incorrect. You obviously read some decent articles to get your beginning information, but then failed to do more research to reach such a ridiculous conclusion.

Please attempt to prove me wrong though, I found your post amusing. I'm not sure what you think the other 85% of junk in smoke is. Vapor is quite pure.

If you have a quality vape, you'll be in outerspace.