Obama on gun control

[Rhythm of Life]

FACT: Barack Obama voted against the confirmation of 2 of the 5 Justices that affirmed an individual right to keep and bear arms.
FACT: Barack Obama voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.1
FACT: Barack Obama wants to re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban.15
FACT: Barack Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting.3
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a 500% increase in the federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition.9
FACT: Barack Obama has endorsed a complete ban on handgun ownership.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports local gun bans in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and other cities.4
FACT: Barack Obama voted to uphold local gun bans and the criminal prosecution of people
who use firearms in self-defense.5
FACT: Barack Obama supports gun owner licensing and gun registration.6
FACT: Barack Obama refused to sign a friend-of-the-court Brief in support of individual Second Amendment rights in the Heller case.
FACT: Barack Obama opposes Right to Carry laws.7
FACT: Barack Obama was a member of the Board of Directors of the Joyce Foundation, the leading source of funds for anti-gun organizations and “research.”8
FACT: Barack Obama supported a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America.9
FACT: Barack Obama voted not to notify gun owners when the state of Illinois did records searches on them.10
FACT: Barack Obama voted against a measure to lower the Firearms Owners Identification card age minimum from 21 to 18, a measure designed to assist young people in the military.11
FACT: Barack Obama favors a ban on standard capacity magazines.12
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory micro-stamping.13
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory waiting periods.2
FACT: Barack Obama supports repeal of the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.14
FACT: Barack Obama supports one-gun-a-month handgun purchase restrictions.16
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on inexpensive handguns.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports a ban on the resale of police issued firearms, even if the money is going to police departments for replacement equipment.9
FACT: Barack Obama supports mandatory firearm training requirements for all gun owners and a ban on gun ownership for persons under the age of 21.9

http://www.nraila.org/OBAMA/

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This guy isn't getting my vote or my guns.

[ihugtrees]

you know england doesnt even worry about gun control anymore, it's all knife control

[Sam_Spade]

I just love how inconsistent that legislation is.

Hardee-har-har-har!

[Tray Dub]

If you're going to present evidence, don't infuse your opinion into every fact you bring up. It really discredits what you're trying to say.

[Rhythm of Life]

Originally Posted by Tray Dub

If you're going to present evidence, don't infuse your opinion into every fact you bring up. It really discredits what you're trying to say.

Enough mods on here hate me to the point that if I didn't have my opinion they might ban me for spam.

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by Tray Dub

If you're going to present evidence, don't infuse your opinion into every fact you bring up. It really discredits what you're trying to say.

How did he "infuse" his opinion?

Anyways thats one of my main problems with Obama, his views on the second amendment. I like how liberals believe in rights, just not that one.

[AugustWest]

Originally Posted by stoned budda

How did he "infuse" his opinion?

Anyways thats one of my main problems with Obama, his views on the second amendment. I like how liberals believe in rights, just not that one.

besides for gay marriage & abortion, what other rights do they believe in?

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by AugustWest

besides for gay marriage & abortion, what other rights do they believe in?

HMMM. Yeah your right thats about it.

[Tray Dub]

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Life

Enough mods on here hate me to the point that if I didn't have my opinion they might ban me for spam.

That's fine, I'm just saying, I'd be way more inclined to take this seriously if it wasn't obviously written by someone who hated Obama.

Originally Posted by stoned budda

How did he "infuse" his opinion?

Anyways thats one of my main problems with Obama, his views on the second amendment. I like how liberals believe in rights, just not that one.

To the first part: are you kidding me? Do you really not see it? Even the original poster of this admits his opinion was all over the "facts". You have to be able to see that his opinion was infused into just about every word of that. You can't be blind enough to miss that.

Second part: it's funny how you can take one of most confusing amendments and simplify it into an easy to understand issue that democrats are just wrong about. I wish you'd make an effort for fairness.

Originally Posted by AugustWest

besides for gay marriage & abortion, what other rights do they believe in?

Health care. Torture free imprisonment. Probable cause for spying on Americans. Trials for all our prisoners. That's what came to mind in the first ten seconds of thinking about what we believe in, that republicans don't.

[Rhythm of Life]

Originally Posted by Tray Dub

That's fine, I'm just saying, I'd be way more inclined to take this seriously if it wasn't obviously written by someone who hated Obama.

Obviously? I was going to vote for Obama until I discovered this.

To the first part: are you kidding me? Do you really not see it? Even the original poster of this admits his opinion was all over the "facts". You have to be able to see that his opinion was infused into just about every word of that. You can't be blind enough to miss that.

This wasn't written by me, hence the link. All I wrote was a small little comment at the end, it was hardly "all over the 'facts.'"

Second part: it's funny how you can take one of most confusing amendments and simplify it into an easy to understand issue that democrats are just wrong about. I wish you'd make an effort for fairness.

Unless it specifies its open for everyone. Its the exclusions you need to watch out for.

My response.

[stoned budda]

Not confusing to me, pretty cut and clear, i have a right to own a gun.



"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

[Rhythm of Life]

Originally Posted by Tray Dub

Health care. Torture free imprisonment. Probable cause for spying on Americans. Trials for all our prisoners. That's what came to mind in the first ten seconds of thinking about what we believe in, that republicans don't.

Scenario: The US Embassy in Niger has located a well known Terrorist. Also absolute information is received saying he has already planted a bomb in a US city with a population of over 100,000. You have one hour to find out which city, talking to him will not reveal any information. Would you torture this man KNOWING you will save possibly millions of people in the name of his suffering? Or would you let millions possibly die? Would your answer change if you were one of those that could possibly die?

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Life

Scenario: The US Embassy in Niger has located a well known Terrorist. Also absolute information is received saying he has already planted a bomb in a US city with a population of over 100,000. You have one hour to find out which city, talking to him will not reveal any information. Would you torture this man KNOWING you will save possibly millions of people in the name of his suffering? Or would you let millions possibly die? Would your answer change if you were one of those that could possibly die?

Go reservoir dog on his ass!

[Tray Dub]

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Life

My response.

I said original poster, not original author. What I mean is, this is a clearly republican view of his voting record, not an objective one, and I don't think you're going to disagree with me on that.

As for you voting for him, sorry, I thought I had seen you being in favor of McCain on here before. Well I hope you do get your information on Obama and gun control from a more objective source than this. If you still don't like him, fine, but at least you'll be informed from an agenda free source.

[Deutschbag]

Originally Posted by Rhythm of Life

Scenario: The US Embassy in Niger has located a well known Terrorist. Also absolute information is received saying he has already planted a bomb in a US city with a population of over 100,000. You have one hour to find out which city, talking to him will not reveal any information. Would you torture this man KNOWING you will save possibly millions of people in the name of his suffering? Or would you let millions possibly die? Would your answer change if you were one of those that could possibly die?

Jack Bauer would be the man for that job.


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