Barrack Obama ?? Is Full Of Shit<<<

[CosmicSerpent]

Just want to clear something up....

Obama's health care plan is not the same as Hillary's universal plan. He wouldn't get rid of the private market that we currently have, he would simply provide government-sponsored health care for those who can't afford it and are currently unqualified to receive it. It's the 47 million Americans who don't currently have health insurance that would be helped out the most. He would also form the National Health Insurance Exchange, which would reform the private insurance market by creating rules and standards for participating insurance plans to ensure fairness and to make individual coverage more affordable and accessible.

Read more about his plan here: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

We can't just ignore the 15% of our population who are suffering and dying because they can't afford the needed medicine and/or treatment. It's too serious of a problem to allow corporations to exclude these people from getting help. If your loved ones were dying from cancer or a disease that they had no control over, and doctors refused them treatment, then I'm sure you'd be all for this so-called "socialist universal health care".

But it isn't like the tax payers would be supporting the lower class like so many people think. Taxes would actually go down if Obama were elected... it's all about fiscal responsibility.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/fiscal/

[chicken]

barrack,,,,,is going to be our next pres'. im not too happy with none of the candidates either,,,,,

but you elect the,,, candidate you got,, not the one you want,,,,,,

if huccaby wasnt running on the fair tax doctrine,,,,, id be voting for barrack,,,,,

the lesser of the 2 evils,,,,,,, it just kills me how bush tried so hard to actually do things, and the democrats threw a wall at all his tries,,,

we need to get away from these ''PARTY'' lines,,,,, his idea of doing a percentage of social security... in a private account for each individual,,,,

do you think that social security is going to be there when those in thier 20's now retire,,,,,

this bullshit war we are in, is breaking us,,,,,,

[Eru_iluvatar]

Originally Posted by CosmicSerpent

We can't just ignore the 15% of our population who are suffering and dying because they can't afford the needed medicine and/or treatment.If your loved ones were dying from cancer or a disease that they had no control over, and doctors refused them treatment, then I'm sure you'd be all for this so-called "socialist universal health care".

If I was in the 15% of the population suffering and dying because I can't afford treatment maybe I would try to do something about it...like get a damn job, or stop drinking...I don't want to be rude...or mean but I can't help it...sure there are people that are motivated yet still don't make money and yeah I feel bad for them.. but life is'nt fair and I'm sure they know that and the majority of those people are alcoholic slobs who ar'nt motivated and I don't want my money helping them....

and I do have a close family friend that is dying of breast cancer...now the catch here is she lives in Canada....who has universal health care and they are refusing her treatment because she does'nt have kids......

[enevitable]

Man shit, who is that politician that called obama the magic negro again?

Personally I support obama, hes the lesser of the three evils right now.

There is no doubt that Mccain and Hilary are 10x worse then Obama, but if you honestly think that Obama will get into the presidency and shit will magically change with fucking leprachauns running all over the place making rainbows and fixing health care and social security, you are dead wrong.

It's kind of sad that the 'real' presidential candidates who actually respect the rights that this country was founded on, never get above 5-10% of the popular poll.

Does that mean that america doesn't actually want to be free?

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by enevitable

Man shit, who is that politician that called obama the magic negro again?

Personally I support obama, hes the lesser of the three evils right now.

There is no doubt that Mccain and Hilary are 10x worse then Obama, but if you honestly think that Obama will get into the presidency and shit will magically change with fucking leprachauns running all over the place making rainbows and fixing health care and social security, you are dead wrong.

It's kind of sad that the 'real' presidential candidates who actually respect the rights that this country was founded on, never get above 5-10% of the popular poll.

Does that mean that america doesn't actually want to be free?

It wasnt a politician who called him a magic negro, it was the la times.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...,5335087.story

[Advil]

Originally Posted by chicken

dude,,, have you took a american history class,, in your life?????

the constitution has the word god all thru it,,,,,and the declaration of independance,,,,

this country was formed because england taxed the shit out of it's people,,,

{ which ironically is happening to us now} and for religious frredom,,,,

im just throwing a different side to the issue,,,,, instead of being a drooling robot,,,, wake up and actually do some thinking for yourself, instead of following the crowd, doing something because thats what everyone-else is doing,,,,,,

How ironic, its formed on the basis of free religion yet its also based on Christianity...this is why I'm not voting..that and I'm moving to canada soon :x

and LA times is racist apparently >_>

"He is the black stereotype, "prone to criminality and laziness."[7] To counterbalance this, he has some sort of magical power, "rather vaguely defined but not the sort of thing one typically encounters."[6] He is patient and wise, often dispensing various words of wisdom, and is "closer to the earth."

["Unknown One"]

Rednecks are mad at the fact theres not going to be a southern christian middle aged white man winning...


VOTE OBOMA

[bkadoctaj]

Originally Posted by chicken

i will agree with this,,,, but is the lesser of 2 evils, allways the way to go,,,,

the democrat party keeps bringing loosers to the table,,,,

Originally Posted by Digit

I love the loosers.
psst, shsh... because the loosers, shsh, are actually the winners.
but the loosers i really love the best, are the ones who know they're the winners, and like, have kinda stopped playing the looser, because, as everyone knows, everyone is a winner.
I love the freaks, the mutants, the lamers, the flamers, the spammers, the manners. I love the shy guys, I love the shy gals. I love the dorks. I love the geeks, the nerds, the dweebs and the weirdos. I love the beatniks and the hippies, the rare birds and the queer ducks. Their pencils, their glasses. Their motorbikes their molasses. Their collections. Their over perfections. Their under perfections. Their eccentricities. Their eccentricities. Their eccentricities. The variety, the choice, the nooks and crannies, the "uncanny"s. I love all the difference, while always the same. We're the one and all, so splendid again. Actual Beauty, we've all won again. One once wasn't enough, Russian dolls we played in our heads, yet our hearts ever flowering, our gestures unearthing betraying disclosure, that knowing smile, the unsaid, the unnecessary wink. The glowing gnowing. Imaginative flowing. The gnowing glowing. Dreams reside. Our thoughts collide. Our thoughts collide. Throughout the ride, our thoughts collide.

Stretch out wide.

Stretch out wide.

Think this is sooooo relevant.

[Tommot76]

I personally dislike all of the candidates...I'll probably vote for McCain, although I hate him too, just not quite as much

[chicken]

im '' writing'' in ron paul,,,


this election this year


DOES NOT IMPRESS ME AT ALL''



..

["Unknown One"]

democrats took over anyways...republicans have no chance thanks to bush

[Astrovan]

Originally Posted by stoned budda

Its been said hitler was the first liberal.

its also been said hitler was an alien.

honestly, you are one of the most delusional people on the internet, and it shows

[stoned budda]

Originally Posted by Astrovan

its also been said hitler was an alien.

honestly, you are one of the most delusional people on the internet, and it shows

Typical liberal attitude, instead of debate it, just insult people.


Liberal Fascism
By Bernard Chapin (04/04/08)


"We’re not interested in social reconstruction; it’s human reconstruction..."

Who better to quote at the start of a review concerning a book entitled Liberal Fascism The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning than Hillary Rodham Clinton? Fabricating new humans while worshipping state power is very much her [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]business[/COLOR][/COLOR] along with the mission of her generation, but it’s also what fascism concerns. The connection between progressives [I call them regressives] and fascism is the subject of a marvelous tome Jonah Goldberg recently penned.

Jonah’s been a conservative star since his old “G-File” days at National Review. Indeed, in my opinion, he’s a topflight observer of our public square, and, next to the exquisite Mark Steyn, happens to be the wittiest conservative alive. While we’ve always enjoyed his humor its flash sometimes obscures the true merit of his perspective so I was not sure exactly what the quality of this work would be. My concerns were unfounded. This has to be one of the best books of the new millennium.

Of course, the material may not be exactly what readers expect. Its focus is history rather than contemporary politics. The narrative is new, however, as it successfully debunks over sixty years of leftist propaganda. Goldberg begins by defining fascism as “Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State,” and that the movement was “a [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]religion[/COLOR][/COLOR] of the state.” One of the quotes I liked best was “Statolatry” which is what the Vatican called Mussolini’s corrupt endeavor. While the definition of fascism is fairly clear, our modern vernacular has managed to obscure its meaning. Our current usage of the term has nothing to do with its original denotation. Indeed, fascism and fascist are so often used as terms of derogation that they mean little more than “I don’t like this person or his ideas.” Fascism is even more nebulous that “homophobe” or “racist” as, with those words, the average person has at least some idea what they connote.

The author convincingly links the left to fascism and is particularly compelling in regards to American Progressivism as that movement was a major source of the fascist ideas that fueled Hitler and Mussolini. This connection is fully elucidated in his chapter “Everything You Know About Fascism is Wrong.”

“Adolf Hitler: Man of the Left, may not be the most lively section here but it undeniably is the most important. Goldberg will have provided a valuable service to the nation if he manages to change the thinking of only one percent of those who currently regard the Nazis as rightists. This is a travesty as the nature of their state, along with their weltanschauung, was as radical as it could be. Whenever I get into an argument with someone over the Nazis ideological orientation the first question I ask is “what exactly was it that the Nazis wanted to conserve?” There can be no legitimate answer. Hitler had no use for traditional values, Christianity or humanism. Indeed, if given the chance he would have used our Constitution to paper the [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]floor[/COLOR][/COLOR] beneath his dog Blondi. Recall Hitler’s furious reaction upon discovering that his troops—in the course of overrunning Holland—decided to set up an honor guard surrounding the Kaiser’s home. That was verboten. The Germans were allowed no masters other than the Fuehrer and his state.

And what of Mussolini? Il Duce, before he officially became Il Duce, proposed enacting “a large [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]progressive [COLOR=brown! important]tax[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] on capital that would amount to a one-time partial expropriation of all riches,” the nationalization of the arms industry, and the seizing of the majority of firms during the First World War. Now that’s limited government! There’s a great quote cited that aptly described his nature: “I am and shall remain a socialist and my convictions will never change! They are bred into my very bones.” QED.

Should fascism come it will arrive with a happy face and a smile—hence the cover—as our [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]Nanny[/COLOR][/COLOR] Staters will trample any person or family who gets in the way of their keeping us all safe…safe from ourselves and our liberties. Who are the fascists among us? How about those folks wanting to proscribe the use of [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]IPods[/COLOR][/COLOR] while crossing a street or those who wish to ban outdoor smoking and transfats? We’d all be better off if such power freaks found religion and began worshipping at the church of minding their own business.

Politically, the Democratic Party is the party of the state although many [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]Republicans[/COLOR][/COLOR] such as George W. Bush—recall his Oprahesque line: “when somebody hurts government has got to move”—are chock full of statist impulses. All of these mundane warriors fail to comprehend the value of Thomas Jefferson timeless edict, “a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.”

Consider the current election with [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]Barack [COLOR=brown! important]Obama[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] and Hillary Clinton. Both are competing to prove to voters that only they can steriodally expand the state to its proper dimensions. They attempt to outbid each other in regards to how much taxpayer money they can swindle under the auspices of aiding…the taxpayer. Even as I type, on this very day, Hillary Clinton came out with a plan for the Leviathan to meddle in the [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]mortgage [COLOR=brown! important]market[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. With her assistance, an impending recession could morph into a depression. Hmm, did that ever happen before while a leftist was ensconced in the White House?

To the statist the past is never worth examining and they refuse to acknowledge their own mistakes. History only has value if it can be used as a truncheon with which to batter their enemies. Luckily, even though few of these pages concern our New Millennium. Goldberg did include a chapter entitled “Brave New Village” which is devoted to [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]Hillary [COLOR=brown! important]Clinton[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. The New York Senator even gets a subheading which embalms her as “The First Lady of Fascism.” To Goldberg, Hillary is an emblematic person. In her we see the follies of the old left along with their probable direction in the [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]future[/COLOR][/COLOR].

Goldberg outlines the fascistic nature of her bestselling “It Takes a Village” and inserts a hysterical P.J. O’Rourke reference to its title as the proverb hails from “the ancient African Kingdom of Hallmarkcardia.” By making use of “children” and phrases like “saving children,” Hillary and her ilk manage to assert their moral authority over the rest of us. They care, and if we argue with them, then we don’t. This allows them to create what, in Goldberg’s words, is “an entire category of human beings for whom all violations of the principle of limited government may be justified.” Which was their real goal in the first place I believe.

The fascism which could thrive with the election of Mrs. Clinton or Mr. [COLOR=brown! important][COLOR=brown! important]Obama[/COLOR][/COLOR] in November will be a version entirely devoid of black and brown shirts. While still featuring jackboots that stomp upon human faces, the material from which their made will be less offensive. Leather that is festooned with recycled paper ribbon and laces that are crafted from hemp should smart a good bit less. At least we can be grateful for something.

[Johnny Blazed]

Would you buy a car from a honkey named slick willy?

[Astrovan]

Originally Posted by Astrovan

its also been said hitler was an alien.

Again, for emphasis.

You found one author who decided hitler was "liberal". Great. I can find people who think miners get killed because gays live in America without being burned at the stake. Does that make it right as well?
Sorry, its just kind of amusing how Im supposed to be thoroughly convinced that ALL LIBERALS ON EARTH including Obama are HITLER to the third power by a single meh article. I understand your aversion to swelling government power, and can respect that, but you cant seriously expect me to believe that the opposite side of the spectrum is any less terrible about swelling government power to fit its own needs. Most "people" interested in governing for us these days are big on serving themselves regardless of their political affiliation or leaning. So yeah, rail against politicans if you think they're giving the government too much power, but rail against them ALL, not just ones from the opposite camp.