Tissue Culture / Micropropagation

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by Berry, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. #41 bonghitter4200, Mar 16, 2012
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2012
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    You can only generate a tissue culture from living cells, so once the leaf or bud is dried out you wouldn't be able to get it to regenerate.[/quote]

    That's where zombie genes come into play LOL hey man where did u go to school and what classes do u take cause I'm Goin to do it too!
     
  2. Whar agar mix did you end up using? What sort of nutes and all that?
     

  3. I'm finishing up my degree in Horticultural Science in May, and my university actually didn't offer any classes strictly for micropropagation, I just did 2 semesters of independent research with a professor that did tissue culture work. Most universities won't have a horticulture specialization for micropropagation for a bachelor's degree, but some have master's programs with that specialization. University of Colorado in Fort Collins offers one, and they do alot of tissue culture research for the potato industry up there. I'm moving to Denver this summer, so I might end up going for my masters there.


    I ended using TDZ and NAA for my hormones with Murashige and Skoog nutrients. The tissue cultures I started last week don't seem to be doing much, but they usually don't start to do anything for a week or two. I noticed that they soaked up a bunch of the bleach solution that I sanitized them with so it might not have been rinsed off all the way before I placed them on the media, so if they haven't done anything by next week I'm going to top my plant again and start some new ones.

    I did the whole sanitizing procedure fairly quickly and rushed because I didn't want somebody walking into the lab and seeing me holding a flask full of what was obviously cannabis leaves and stems. :D

    Next time I do some, I'm going to wait until later in the day when I know most people have gone home for the day.
     

  4. I remember seeing that thread back when he was putting his grow box together, very well put together micro grow.

    Hopefully I'll get a media mix together that will allow me to go around and collect genetics in Colorado when I move there this summer and put together a nice collection. The benefit of doing micropropagation is that I could gather 100s of strains and they wouldn't take up very much space at all, then I could just cycle out different strains in future crops.

    So far my tissue cultures haven't really done much. The ones I started from auxiliary buds and shoot tips look like they might be starting to form new shoots growth, but I'm pretty sure the leaf cuttings aren't going to do anything. I haven't had much luck with leaf cultures in any of the plants I've micropropagated. I think this is because I've been focusing mainly on trying to induce shoot formation and avoid a lot of callus formation, but with leaf cuttings you need the dedifferentiation and callus formation before you induce shoot formation.

    I'm going to try a slightly different approach tomorrow and start a few tissue cultures from shoot tips. I'm going to try and cut the shoot tip down to pretty much just the meristematic tissue, because those cells are the most embryonic and more readily divide and multiply. I'm also going to reduce the sanitizing solution from 20% bleach (which is what I'm used to using on seeds) to 10% Bleach. I think I might have overdone it a bit on the first samples and killed them with too much bleach.

    Then next week I'm going to reformulate my media mix to induce callus formation and try some leaf cuttings again.
     
  5. NICE, it sounds like you know how to narrow things down to achieve success. Just curious, what role does the soil mix of the original plant (your blue mystic) have in micro propogation? I know the quality of soil can often affect the quality of clones, but I don't know how this will play out in your instance. for example if the plant was holding more potassium when you chop it up would this be different than a potassium deficiency?
     
  6. The media mixture contains a powdered nutrient salt mix dissolved in it. I'm pretty sure that the plant cells absorb the nutrients by diffusion directly across any surface that is touching the media and then the nutrients are distributed to the rest of the cells. So if the plant was suffering from a deficiency when you took the samples, then yes it might affect the initial growth of the tissue culture compared to samples taken from a completely healthy plant, but I think it will correct itself and recover quickly once they are in the media.

    I started some more cultures on Monday. I filled the rest of the jars I had prepared from last time with the same media mix, and I also started some in a different media mix with BA and IAA as the hormones.

    This is what my plant looked like before I cut off the two tops.

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    Most of the leaf samples that I started last time have started forming callus tissue. They first curled up, but stayed green, and then the cells started to swell up and form clumpy looking growth all over the place. Hopefully new shoots will start to develop once enough callus has formed. The shoot tip and auxiliary bud samples I used don't seem to be growing as fast, but they have formed some callus tissue also. I haven't had a single jar that was contaminated yet, so this has been my most successful tissue culture project so far. :D

    Here is a picture of one of the jars with callus growth on the leaf samples.

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    Here is the lighted shelf I built this weekend to hold my culture jars. I just bought a $20 shelf and $12 two ft fluorescent light fixture from lowes and zip tied the light onto the bottom of the top shelf. Tissue cultures don't need alot of light so you can use T12 bulbs.

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  7. This is mind blowing, very impressive OP.
     
  8. impressive. i've always thought of this, but never fully thought out the means. your background certainly helps! the biggest part would be getting the medium right/contamination, best of luck...
     
  9. I'm impressed to my last teeth. I'm so happy I found this thread you have no idea. I already gave +Rep. However all the information here is super helpful and this is taking the game to the next level.

    I'm subbed

    ZS
     
  10. Curious have you experimented with Microsyn?
     
  11. Hey guys sorry for the long wait on an update. I'm about to graduate from college so I've been really busy lately. Anywho.... so I've had some interesting results with my tissue cultures.

    All of the jars that I started from leaf tissue have formed a lot of callus tissue but haven't formed any shoots, which I guess isn't too bad because at least they are still alive and I might be able to subdivide them into jars with increased cytokinin concentration later and induce them to put out some shoots.

    Here's a few pictures of what I'm talking about.

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    I also tried one attempt at home and took a couple of shoot tips and cut them down to just the meristem cells and had some success in the same media with some shoots forming. They haven't grown much in the last couple of weeks so I will probably try moving them to some stronger media later, but I'm just going to let them sit there and see what they do for another month or so. I'm moving to Colorado this month so I'll be setting up a little home lab for experimenting with these more in a few weeks.

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  12. Looking good, have a safe move to CO, lucky :)
     
  13. This was a very informative and fascinating read. I need to wait more time to rep you it appears, but this is an amazing thread. Best of luck with your move, I'll be looking forward to seeing your experiment.
     
  14. this is cool as fuckkkkk
     
  15. when you transfer between jars would you re-sterilize them or would that cause something bad?
     

  16. You could re-sterilize them if you wanted to, but if they aren't showing any contamination after 2-3 weeks then there isn't really a need to. The jar they are coming out of is sterile and if you autoclave the jar they are going into then it is sterile too, so the only way you'd get contamination is your tools not being completely sterile or not doing it in a sterile environment.

    Hopefully in about 2-3 weeks I'll start a grow journal of my new grow I'll be starting once I get to Colorado and I'll eventually try and incorporate some of these tissue cultures into that grow. I just ordered a new Secret Jardin 4x4 grow tent and will be buying a 600watt HPS/MH light soon as well.

    I've never grown in a grow tent before, do you think I could fit a 1000watt air cooled light in there or would a 600watt be better? My 400watt one I was using for my last few grows crapped out on me a few months ago so I am forced to upgrade which is good I guess. :smoke:
     
  17. #59 morange, May 15, 2012
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    1000watts is actually ideal for a 4x4 space if you can keep it cool. The ideal footprint is 4x4 so you'd get the maximum light penetration for all your plants. I've seem some really amazing SCroG and SoG grows with that setup. You'd need a cool tube for the 1k though. If you want to go with a 600 it would work nicely as well as it would give you more wiggle room to keep the environment ideal.

    This chart may or may not find itself of value to you, but check it:

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  18. any updates? and why isn't this thread a sticky at the top of this forum? hands down one of the most informative posts i've read in advanced.
     

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