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PC All Natural Grow (NO FEED or NUTES)

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As the title states this is going to be an all natural grow.
The tower is 24" tall with about 18" of grow space.

125w 2700k CFL (Yes its massive)
120mm Intake Fan
120mm Outake Fan
Jon Innes Number 1 Mix with B&Q All Purpose Compost and a sprinke of Perlite.

I took advantage of the recent Attitude offer for my current grow.
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My selected beans were:

7 Dwarfes Titan Auto Fem and Dinafem Auto Hobbit Fem

Both soaked overnight and put in soil on the 14/01/12
They both showed their faces 5 days later like good girls..19/01/12

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6 days later we are now at this stage and the titan is already showing the blueberry in her by slight purpling of the leaves.

The pot in the middle is my 3oz cup entry :)
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Going for a scrog/lst on this one,also have extra fans if needed.
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Ive completed 3 grows/4 strains in this box over the last year or so,Im new to growing but been consuming for 25 years+ lol Shit am I really that old lol

Thanks for popping in and taking a look,
All feedback accepted with open arms but remember NO NUTES !!! :eek:

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Excellent case!! No nutes, i like it :P
Can i ask, what are your temps at the plant level? And whats the distance between your cfl and the plant tops?
Im having a little problem with my cab, and seeing as we have the same light, your answers may solve my problems haha :P its either too hot or nute burn.. Seeing as i have john innes 1 also somewhere, i will transplant to this if necessary.

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wow sub'd this very similar to what I'm going to do just no scrog, short stuff #1- one seed

planted with a 1/2 inch tap root other seed still waiting to pop.. no nutes for me either

mostly because I'm cramped on space and going more for seeds than bud this harvest,

trying to get lots for outdoor summer '12 :smoke: excited for this one good luck and can't

wait to see how the hobbit looks

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wow sub'd this very similar to what I'm going to do just no scrog, short stuff #1- one seed

planted with a 1/2 inch tap root other seed still waiting to pop.. no nutes for me either

mostly because I'm cramped on space and going more for seeds than bud this harvest,

trying to get lots for outdoor summer '12 :smoke: excited for this one good luck and can't

wait to see how the hobbit looks


If you give your plant no form of nutrients it's not going to do well because the soil won't have enough nutrients in it for more than a month.

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Excellent case!! No nutes, i like it :P
Can i ask, what are your temps at the plant level? And whats the distance between your cfl and the plant tops?
Im having a little problem with my cab, and seeing as we have the same light, your answers may solve my problems haha :P its either too hot or nute burn.. Seeing as i have john innes 1 also somewhere, i will transplant to this if necessary.


Well im in the UK so ambient temps arent a problem as our weather is shit lol
My temps hang around the 23-25c scale i did max out to a 28c on one grow but sorted that with an added fan.
Hummidity is around 15% now but once the girls are into flower and maxed the box out this hits around 60%.
I keep them between 2-5 inches away.

Just so you know incase you dont Jon Innes No1 is for seedlings hence why i mix,I generaly use an all purpose and concentrate on a 25% plug in the middle of the pot being Jon Innes, I also top the pot the a sprinkle of it...Hope this helps Im a little mashed atm :D

As you already know people having differing ways to cultivate but for my set up this is fine (touches wood) :smoke:

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Awesome. I wanna do this haha. Titan sounds like a crazy strain. Whats the a combo of. Theyre looking really good so far. Nice work

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If you give your plant no form of nutrients it's not going to do well because the soil won't have enough nutrients in it for more than a month.



I agree to a point as it all depends on the medium used,
All my grows bar 1 have been nute free and Ive been happy with the outcome.
You wont get oz`s off them but its just for me and the mrs to chill out with and not giving some hood rat £20 for a bag of shit...

Each to their own but I respect your comment :)

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Like the cab, I'm subbed for this one. What kind of light is that?

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Awesome. I wanna do this haha. Titan sounds like a crazy strain. Whats the a combo of. Theyre looking really good so far. Nice work


The 7 Dwarfs Seeds Titan Auto Flowering Feminized is a stable, inbred cross of Automatic Blueberry and Automatic Hindu Kush. Producing dense blue buds with the sweetest Blueberry scent imaginable which has a profound effect on the senses. It has an addictive aroma and an exquisite appearance. Titan is a high yielding strain with around 35 grams+ per plant and flowering time is 9 weeks from seed.

Yummy :smoke:

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Like the cab, I'm subbed for this one. What kind of light is that?



125w Red Spectrum CFL 27000k, It does the job :smoke:

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Looking good :cool:

There are nutrients in that soil, however. If you want to stay organic take a look at the organic section, maybe look into some teas (I'm not one to ask about organics, not what I do).

It's possible to go no added nutes with autos if there was a transplant involved (although that's not a good idea if a plant is in flower), as soil will give plant food for three, maybe four weeks. Without it, however, this leaves the plant without anything at it's most important time - right as it's really about to flower being that it's an autoflower.

All in all, good setup - it's good to see you have proper ventilation and have obviously dome research. Best of luck, man :smoke:

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Looking good :cool:

There are nutrients in that soil, however. If you want to stay organic take a look at the organic section, maybe look into some teas (I'm not one to ask about organics, not what I do).

It's possible to go no added nutes with autos if there was a transplant involved (although that's not a good idea if a plant is in flower), as soil will give plant food for three, maybe four weeks. Without it, however, this leaves the plant without anything at it's most important time - right as it's really about to flower being that it's an autoflower.

All in all, good setup - it's good to see you have proper ventilation and have obviously dome research. Best of luck, man :smoke:


Thanks for the kind words,
I know the nutes will run out after a few weeks but ive had success in the past this way,altho i did give them my aquarium water after the flowering stage had stated every other water.
Ive already thought of my next grow being 2 Easy Ryders 1 fed 1 not :smoke:

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Well im in the UK so ambient temps arent a problem as our weather is shit lol
My temps hang around the 23-25c scale i did max out to a 28c on one grow but sorted that with an added fan.
Hummidity is around 15% now but once the girls are into flower and maxed the box out this hits around 60%.
I keep them between 2-5 inches away.

Just so you know incase you dont Jon Innes No1 is for seedlings hence why i mix,I generaly use an all purpose and concentrate on a 25% plug in the middle of the pot being Jon Innes, I also top the pot the a sprinkle of it...Hope this helps Im a little mashed atm :D

As you already know people having differing ways to cultivate but for my set up this is fine (touches wood) :smoke:


Im in the uk also mate :) yeah ambient temps are 23'c, box temp reaches 28 which is annoying.. Thanks for the info though! Ill repot my seedlings into a mix of john innes 1 and biobizz light mix.. See if it helps. If not ill have to come up with a better exhaust system hmm..
Im going to build a bonzai mum cab soon, very similar to yours, so i will be using yours as a "guide" if thats all good? :D

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Im in the uk also mate :) yeah ambient temps are 23'c, box temp reaches 28 which is annoying.. Thanks for the info though! Ill repot my seedlings into a mix of john innes 1 and biobizz light mix.. See if it helps. If not ill have to come up with a better exhaust system hmm..
Im going to build a bonzai mum cab soon, very similar to yours, so i will be using yours as a "guide" if thats all good? :D


No worries fella crack on, it's worked for me add extra fans if needed, last summer I had 2 in a pop up minigreenhouse and they turned out ok.

The uk is shit for weather but persistence has given me success , trial and error my friend ... Good luck with it

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Nice, well just a couple questions.

1) That is actual watts correct?

2) Do you always run that spectrum for full growth or do you have another for veg?

3) How many plants do you usually stick under the one light and how much do you yield on average?

4) Your planning on doing scrog correct? What are your dimensions for screen placement?

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Thanks for the kind words,
I know the nutes will run out after a few weeks but ive had success in the past this way,altho i did give them my aquarium water after the flowering stage had stated every other water.
Ive already thought of my next grow being 2 Easy Ryders 1 fed 1 not :smoke:


What kind of medium are you using?

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Nice, well just a couple questions.

1) That is actual watts correct?

2) Do you always run that spectrum for full growth or do you have another for veg?

3) How many plants do you usually stick under the one light and how much do you yield on average?

4) Your planning on doing scrog correct? What are your dimensions for screen placement?


Yep 125w, yep same bulb, 1 or 2 average 15g per plant, 2" look at screen in pics

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What kind of medium are you using?


A mix of Jon Inness No1 and an all purpose compost.

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so you arnt going to feed it any nutrients at all or just organic?

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Yep 125w, yep same bulb, 1 or 2 average 15g per plant, 2" look at screen in pics


I can't find any pictures that clarify what I'm asking.

Maybe let me refrase the question.
How far above your medium do you place the screen and how far above the screen is your light?


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