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Government censoring the internet. Also they can take you without probable cause.


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Internet entities such as Wikipedia, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit and Tumblr said the two bills would force them to be online police and hold them responsible if users of their sites link to pirated content.

The companies said the bills could require your Internet provider to block websites that are involved in digital file sharing. And search engines such as Google, Yahoo and Bing could be stopped from linking to them — antithetical, they argue, to the ideal of an open Internet.

http://abcnews.go.co...pipa-explained/

They say its to "stop piracy" but they have already stated that there goal is to censor the internet.

Here's an online petition...

PROTECT IP Act Breaks the Internet

There's also a nice video describing the bill on the link above.

Oh and also on a related topic have you guys heard of the National Defense Authorization Act? Look up S. 1867

The National Defense Authorization Act basically says the government can come and take someone, without probable cause, without breaking any laws, no trial, no lawyers, not tell anybody where you are, and hold you in jail forever, and they can kill you.

Oh and guys, this bill already passed, officially or not. Senate passed it, obama passed it, now the house of reps just has to pass it. Senate passed it 187 - 3, house of reps isn't gonna vote any differently.

Edited by PeacefulStoner, 18 January 2012 - 12:36 AM.


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So what would happen If i were to download music off a torrent site on to Utorrent?

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So what would happen If i were to download music off a torrent site on to Utorrent?


You mean if SOPA and PIPA pass?

Edited by PeacefulStoner, 18 January 2012 - 12:01 AM.


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ah I don't know, well yeah I guess that's my question then. Blackout as in google and all arent going to work or what? sorry i'm a little confused but interested in knowing

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I hardly think restricting piracy can be considered a "global blackout"

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All domains are controlled by ICANN. This is a non-profit corporation located in the USA, so the US government just asks them to null-route a domain.

It is actually very likely that in the future we will have the "acceptable" internet, which will exclude domains dis-approved by ICANN, and for advanced users we will have another means of accessing the websites that ICANN has canned.

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I hardly think restricting piracy can be considered a "global blackout"


Global black out as in the internet sites are "blacking out" like globally man...

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If this happens, the entire internet will be changed. They are not good bills.

Piracy will still find a way around it, so it doesn't matter.

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ah I don't know, well yeah I guess that's my question then. Blackout as in google and all arent going to work or what? sorry i'm a little confused but interested in knowing


Yeah the sites are shutting down in protest of the bills. Here's a website with a list of the sites that are shutting down SOPA STRIKE - Largest online protest in history - January 18 - blackout your site

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The best thing we laymans can do is show solidarity with the titans of internet (google, wiki) when they begin to deny their services to the rest of the world in defiance of the moronic inferno known as the "United States Government", who just want everything to go back to the way it was in the days of Jurassic Park.

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Isn't there a way to access the websites they ban via IP addresses?

Something to the tune of going start > Run > then something something with the IP.. lemme find it

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This is what I came accross while I was stumbleupon.. If somebody can figure out how to get it working let me know

SOPA Emergency IP list:

So if these ass-fucks in DC decide to ruin the internet, here’s how to access your favorite sites in the event of a DNS takedown

tumblr.com 174.121.194.34
wikipedia.org 208.80.152.201

# News
bbc.co.uk 212.58.241.131
aljazeera.com 198.78.201.252

# Social media
reddit.com 72.247.244.88
imgur.com 173.231.140.219
google.com 74.125.157.99
youtube.com 74.125.65.91
yahoo.com 98.137.149.56
hotmail.com 65.55.72.135
bing.com 65.55.175.254
digg.com 64.191.203.30
theonion.com 97.107.137.164
hush.com 65.39.178.43
gamespot.com 216.239.113.172
ign.com 69.10.25.46
cracked.com 98.124.248.77
sidereel.com 144.198.29.112
github.com 207.97.227.239

# Torrent sites
thepiratebay.org 194.71.107.15
mininova.com 80.94.76.5
btjunkie.com 93.158.65.211
demonoid.com 62.149.24.66
demonoid.me 62.149.24.67

# Social networking
facebook.com 69.171.224.11
twitter.com 199.59.149.230
tumblr.com 174.121.194.34
livejournal.com 209.200.154.225
dreamwidth.org 69.174.244.50

# Live Streaming Content
stickam.com 67.201.54.151
blogtv.com 84.22.170.149
justin.tv 199.9.249.21
chatroulette.com 184.173.141.231
omegle.com 97.107.132.144
own3d.tv 208.94.146.80
megavideo.com 174.140.154.32

# Television
gorillavid.com 178.17.165.74
videoweed.com 91.220.176.248
novamov.com 91.220.176.248
tvlinks.com 208.223.219.206
1channel.com 208.87.33.151

# Shopping
amazon.com 72.21.211.176
newegg.com 216.52.208.187
frys.com 209.31.22.39

# File Sharing
mediafire.com 205.196.120.13
megaupload.com 174.140.154.20
fileshare.com 208.87.33.151
multiupload.com 95.211.149.7
uploading.com 195.191.207.40
warez-bb.org 31.7.57.13
hotfile.com 199.7.177.218
gamespy.com 69.10.25.46
what.cd 67.21.232.223
warez.ag 178.162.238.136
putlocker.com 89.238.130.247
uploaded.to 95.211.143.200
dropbox.com 199.47.217.179
pastebin.com 69.65.13.216

Here’s a tip for the do-it-yourself crowd: Go to your computer’s Start menu, and either go to “run” or just search for “cmd.” Open it up, and type in “ping [website address],”


Once you have the IP for a website, all you really need to do is enter it like you would a normal URL and hit enter/press go. Typing in “208.85.240.231” should bring you to the front page of AO3, for example, just as typing “174.121.194.34/dashboard” should bring you straight to the tumbler dashboard.

Some of those IP addresses are incorrect, just go start > run > then go "ping www.whateverwebsite you want.com" and the ip will pop up

Edited by OpenMindFields, 18 January 2012 - 12:17 AM.


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who controls the internet.


So they basically wanna testify the content we see like china does ?

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Moving to Canada, when I turn 22

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Also, if it passes and ICANN actually attempts to censor the entire internet, things will totally go fucking cyberpunk!

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Global black out as in the internet sites are "blacking out" like globally man...


Is that what he meant?

It sounded like "THE INTERNET IS GOING TO DIE!" lol

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Jesus Christ,aren't there bigger problems they should be worrying about?!?!:mad:

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Here is something we should ALL keep in our address bars. TheProxyFree: Visit websites via an anonymous proxy, bypass the firewall of your institution

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Here is something we should ALL keep in our address bars. TheProxyFree: Visit websites via an anonymous proxy, bypass the firewall of your institution


I don't think that website would be able to pass a government firewall




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