Ron Paul is not the messiah everyone seems to think he is.

this is a continuation of a thread that got deleted for being in the wrong section. here you go now please prove these wrong which you apparently could so easily do but have not yet.

oh and he's not trying to legalize weed, merely leave it up to the individual states which means it will still be illegal in most places for medical use and almost everywhere if not everywhere for recreational use.

Edited by BlazeLE, 14 January 2012 - 11:59 PM.

Isn't eliminating public schools and privatising schools the same thing?

Anti Ron Paul people are an amusing bunch.

I'm not anti-Ron Paul, I'm pro-communism!

I recognize that he's a good guy, we're just opposed.

Isn't eliminating public schools and privatising schools the same thing?

i didnt make the chart, and i agree it does list things multiple times to make the list longer. like allowing discrimination falls into the women/gay/civil rights. but i have still yet to see anyone prove these wrong at all.

The Law, by Frederic Bastiat

You say: "Here are persons who are lacking in morality or religion," and you turn to the law. But law is force. And need I point out what a violent and futile effort it is to use force in the matters of morality and religion?

It would seem that socialists, however self-complacent, could not avoid seeing this monstrous legal plunder that results from such systems and such efforts. But what do the socialists do? They cleverly disguise this legal plunder from others — and even from themselves — under the seductive names of fraternity, unity, organization, and association. Because we ask so little from the law — only justice — the socialists thereby assume that we reject fraternity, unity, organization, and association. The socialists brand us with the name individualist.

But we assure the socialists that we repudiate only forced organization, not natural organization. We repudiate the forms of association that are forced upon us, not free association. We repudiate forced fraternity, not true fraternity. We repudiate the artificial unity that does nothing more than deprive persons of individual responsibility. We do not repudiate the natural unity of mankind under Providence.

Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all.

We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.

His pros are why neocons and the GOP hate him and treat him like a bastard child.

His pros are why neocons and the GOP hate him and treat him like a bastard child.

yeah and? thats not what this is about... this is about the cons list. in the other thread there were people so eager to say that the list was full of lies yet not once did they link a source or have any sort of proof.

that cons list is pretty big, but that pros list is pretty powerful. my opinion of Ron Paul is therefore unchanged.

bite me.

Isn't eliminating public schools and privatising schools the same thing?

quality varies whether it public or private. some good teachers only want that private stash, some public teachers are saints to do what they do. most of em treat it as a paycheck. no one is gonna stop teaching the kids unless you as citizen vote for it, ok.

that cons list is pretty big, but that pros list is pretty powerful. my opinion of Ron Paul is therefore unchanged.

bite me.

would you eat a ham sandwich covered in dog shit because you like ham? and the pro's of what he wants to do most likely wont happen anyway because of the congress and senate... however the republicans would be all over his con list.

Messiah Paul had a nice ring to it..

Give me a little while I am about to hop in the shower and then I'll get to this before I head out for the night. I do appreciate you making a new thread rather than cluttering the Appreciation thread.

now i will say that paul isnt bad as far as republicans go but you have to realize anything that he does want to do that congress doesnt agree with wont happen. he wont be elected and shit just happens. and i can almost guarantee you that the pro list will most likely not happen but a lot of the stuff in his con list might stand a chance which is bad.

Not gonna let you get away that easy. I expect you to explain in great detail why each of the cons accusations are a bad thing. And if you had any knowledge of ron Paul then you'd already know most of those cons are too funny. Being an anti Ron Paul guy, have you had the curiosity to spend quite a few hours watching all of ron Paul's interviews and speeches? I have because I'm interested but would someone like you? I know damn well I don't watch any of romneys Gingrich or Perry's videos. They say enough in the debates and in their past.

All of those cons are pros. Except:

Promote Creationism over Evolution
and the others that are written in a way that just slander instead of address the principle of the issue. And they're not even true.

It's you're ignorance to economics that blinds you.

would you eat a ham sandwich covered in dog shit because you like ham?

yeah.

All of those cons are pros. Except:

Promote Creationism over Evolution
and the others that are written in a way that just slander instead of address the principle of the issue. And they're not even true.

It's you're ignorance to economics that blinds you.

no its your faith in capitalism that comes from american propaganda that blinds you.

The Law, by Frederic Bastiat

“Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all.

society can have a government, that government can be a democracy, just cause bastiat is upset don't mean he and impose his will on a majority. the majority want to feed the poor and pay taxes to do so. i, ron paul, believe that those taxes should not go to waste.

RON PAUL "PLAN TO RESTORE AMERICA" | Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee

This is what he says he'll do. That poster is just hyperbolic bullshit. Half of it is false.