So, we basically came to the conclusion a joint or blunt is best smoked using a crutch, unless you roll them tight or cone shaped. However, we then got deeper into the discussion about the best way to create your crutch and how to design it.
We brought it down to our own personal preference(Kind of a signature to your work).
My Preferred: Rolling up a piece of paper; creating one circle for the outer support then rolling/folding the rest into an M shape within that outer circle. The outer circle gives you support for the mouth and the inner M holds back the bud and creates structure. This also allows you to crunch down the crutch to get a better hold of it when it gets close to be doing.
1st Buddy: Rolling a paper into a spherical spiral and allowing it to "expand" once set in the mouth end. This keeps all the bud in the wrap, and adds support.
2nd Buddy: Same set-up as my preference(1st one); however, instead of using an M design, he prefers a V shape. This he says allows you to get an initial hold on the wrap, and keeps the bud in the wrap without it closing up when it gets down to the roach.
These were all great designs and was an even greater hour conversation/argument. Let me know what you think about these designs or what you think a better design is.