Death, I don't think it's the End.

This thought occured to me the other day. Whenever people die everyone sees it as a tragedy and the end. For some reason i just cannot force myself to see it that way. If anything death is the beginning! We are so limited in our lives here on earth we are confined to our enviroment. Whats after death may be eternity, or reincarnation or that's where we start our true journey to move up the astral ladder. At any point i think death is far from the end. I mean our lives on earth are so quick on the scale of the universe. We aren't even a blip on the radar.


I just can't make myself feel sad over death i actually see that view as extremely selfish. The only reason people wish people were still alive is for self serviant reasons. it's because THEY miss them THEY need that person etc. If you believe in heaven you should rejoice when a person dies and be happy for them because they finally made their ascension into the promised afterlife.


Now if our souls exist prior to our bodies existing then wouldn't the soul live on after wards? just like it existed before our incarnate life? So by that thought process death should be seen as a gift just like we should see our life on earth as a gift. We are put here to learn a lesson. I like to think it's a lesson we cannot learn as a spirit. life here is like a nursery for your soul . It is only the first tiny step into YOU YOURSELF maturing and growing to be what you are meant to be. Our human life is not somethign we should be so concerned with. we should enjoy it and live to the fullest and see this as a gift and a lesson.


I am actually kind of excited to die i mean yes i cherish my life but i can't help but be excited for the afterlife. It's the great unknown anything could happen after. I see hell as an extremely fucking stupid idea. Why would a sentient being condemn us to eternal punishment for messing up one life? that's like beating a child to death for spilling milk. I personally don't think hell exists at all. Sure there may be lower planes of existence waiting for those that really fucked up but you always have the ability to change yourself and ascend up the ranks.

Idk i'm kinda rambling but the main point is that i do not see death as a sad thing or as an end. To me death is anything but the end it's the beginning of our true life or atleast i hope so. Should we really be so saddened and bothered by a close person leaving us? I try and pass on this outlook to friends and family especially when they are going through the last phases of dealing with a death. I wish more people could see death this way and be ok with it and appreciate it for what it is instead of torturing themselves for the rest of their life over the loss of someone.

I see hell as an extremely fucking stupid idea. Why would a sentient being condemn us to eternal punishment for messing up one life? that's like beating a child to death for spilling milk. I

Raping and murder are not the same as spilling milk.
Ezekiel 25:17
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who in the name of charity and goodwill shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

i have seen a few posts on and about death/the afterlife...

what gives?

Wow great thoughts put down there, im kinda the same, def there is no death, and def its a great adventure. look forward to it, especially if your body is all old and fucked, time to change

You said feeling sad over death is selfish (which may have some truth), but I think assuming humans have souls is selfish.

What makes you think that we're so special (like you said, our lives not even a blip on the radar relative to the universe) that we're something more than what we can see?

There's no good reason to believe we have any kind of soul aside from the fact that the belief may comfort you. I also think the grieving of loved ones after they die is a beautiful thing we should also revere (to an extent; it shouldn't consume you for the rest of your life).

Celebrate life and respect death, because for all we know, it really could be the end.

Edited by batenswitch, 09 December 2011 - 09:35 PM.

Death, I think it's the end.

You said feeling sad over death is selfish (which may have some truth), but I think assuming humans have souls is selfish.

What makes you think that we're so special (like you said, our lives not even a blip on the radar relative to the universe) that we're something more than what we can see?

There's no good reason to believe we have any kind of soul aside from the fact that the belief may comfort you. I also think the grieving of loved ones after they die is a beautiful thing we should also revere (to an extent; it shouldn't consume you for the rest of your life).

Celebrate life and respect death, because for all we know, it really could be the end.

Well of course by nature every action a human performs is self serviant. Even doing good things still benefits you in some way and is therefore a selfish act.

I just find when people say o i wish so and so was here or i miss so n so etc i think it's just silly. Especially when the person was dieing of a disease or condition. It should'nt be sad you should be happy they aren't in pain and scared anymore but then again your reaction to death is based solely on your idea of the afterlife ya know>

I genuinely am terrified of death because I think it really is the end and that's it. You've run out of time...
I suppose I only fear it because there's still so much I want to do and experience but still, I always get scared when I think about how final it is (in my opinion).

I wish I could have faith like you, I just can't rationalise an afterlife, or even reincarnation of the soul, in my mind and I don't want to lie to myself just to feel a bit better.

But you're right about how people shouldn't perceive death to be a tragedy, you should celebrate a person's life (and if they died painfully, celebrate their release from suffering) instead of just being sad because YOU can't see them again...

Well of course by nature every action a human performs is self serviant. Even doing good things still benefits you in some way and is therefore a selfish act.

I just find when people say o i wish so and so was here or i miss so n so etc i think it's just silly. Especially when the person was dieing of a disease or condition. It should'nt be sad you should be happy they aren't in pain and scared anymore but then again your reaction to death is based solely on your idea of the afterlife ya know>

Yea I get what you're saying, I agree people shouldn't let other's deaths ruin their own lives. I think some sadness is a healthy reaction to death though, as long as the person's life is equally appreciated.

If there is nothing then there is nothing to fear, if there is something....hope your ready.

I genuinely am terrified of death because I think it really is the end and that's it. You've run out of time...
I suppose I only fear it because there's still so much I want to do and experience but still, I always get scared when I think about how final it is (in my opinion).

I wish I could have faith like you, I just can't rationalise an afterlife, or even reincarnation of the soul, in my mind and I don't want to lie to myself just to feel a bit better.

But you're right about how people shouldn't perceive death to be a tragedy, you should celebrate a person's life (and if they died painfully, celebrate their release from suffering) instead of just being sad because YOU can't see them again...

I think that's an irrational fear on you're part. If you believe death is the end, why should you fear that which you won't be present to experience.

I'm not afraid of death, just afraid of dying lol, I hope it's painless.

Edited by batenswitch, 09 December 2011 - 10:15 PM.

I think that's an irrational fear on you're part. If you believe death is the end, why should you fear that which you won't be present to experience.

I'm not afraid of death, just afraid of dying lol, I hope it's painless.

You're right, it is pretty irrational I suppose, but I think that fear will diminish as I get older, it's more just related to the number of things i've not done, places i've not visited, and the fact that at this moment in time, if I die, I won't leave any sort of legacy or contribution to humanity, than being scared of 'nothing' when it does come...

But yeah, i'd much prefer to get shot in the head tomorrow and die instantly and unaware than be terminally ill when i'm 75 and die a slow death over the course of months...

Great quote for your last line (bit random but whatever): "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome."
— Isaac Asimov

Edited by 420stonedpanda, 09 December 2011 - 10:22 PM.

all i ask is that i dont get taken away just after ive bought an ounce

Yea I get what you're saying, I agree people shouldn't let other's deaths ruin their own lives. I think some sadness is a healthy reaction to death though, as long as the person's life is equally appreciated.

Well grief is a necessary emotion because you are dealing with a part of your life being removed. When i talk about people be sad i mean some people see the death as a horrible thing itself and really struggle to deal with death instead of understanding it and being at peace with what happens. If you believe in an afterlife you should be happy knowing this person went to a better place then their death isn't something horrible for them it's a good thing. Now on that note the death is of course a bad thing for you but that doesn't mean you have to think it was a bad thing for THEM. If that makes sense?

@420stonedpanda.

Ya i know it makes you scared that there is nothing after death but think of it this way if there is nothing after you'll never know? I mean it would be like being put under anesthesia all you remember is going to sleep nothing else.k I figure if there was nothing after it would be just like getting knocked out or falling asleep you'd just lose conciousness and never wake up. that's better than enternaldamnation if you ask me lol.

Edited by Zr-01stamg, 09 December 2011 - 10:56 PM.

@420stonedpanda.

Ya i know it makes you scared that there is nothing after death but think of it this way if there is nothing after you'll never know? I mean it would be like being put under anesthesia all you remember is going to sleep nothing else.k I figure if there was nothing after it would be just like getting knocked out or falling asleep you'd just lose conciousness and never wake up. that's better than enternaldamnation if you ask me lol.

Yeah very true, that's exactly what I imagine my perfect death to be like. Quietly in my sleep when i'm old and grey, no prior warning or pain, just eternal sleep having lived a fulfilling life which i'm proud of.
I'm realising I worded my first post pretty terribly. It's not such much death itself I fear, but more not achieving and doing all the things I want to in my life before my time comes.

The only thing that death can do, is set you free.

Either way you look at it, it dissipates the obligations of what we as humans experience as reality.

Life and death are antithetical. Worrying about either while being the other is like worrying about being cold when you are being cooked alive.

Mr. Empathetical: Well what if you were seeing someone else being cooked alive, would you not wish cold upon them?

Me: Well, Mr. Empathetical, if you have never been cold, how do you know it's not worse than being cooked alive? Don't make conclusions off assumptions.

Or, something? I dunno.

Edited by A AnoesisOrange, 09 December 2011 - 11:47 PM.

yeah OP. i agree, it cant be the end, there has to be more to it than this. for people naysaying maybe try and get in tune with your soul and then you may believe.

Death = loss of consciousness = nothingness.

And if souls by some fucking miracle do exist, they certainly do not contain any matter. Thoughts, consciousness, = matter.

You're right, it is pretty irrational I suppose, but I think that fear will diminish as I get older, it's more just related to the number of things i've not done, places i've not visited, and the fact that at this moment in time, if I die, I won't leave any sort of legacy or contribution to humanity, than being scared of 'nothing' when it does come...

But yeah, i'd much prefer to get shot in the head tomorrow and die instantly and unaware than be terminally ill when i'm 75 and die a slow death over the course of months...

Great quote for your last line (bit random but whatever): "Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome."
— Isaac Asimov

Why do you care so much about contributing to humanity or leaving a legacy? When you're dead none of it matters. The only thing that matters is the realization/ understanding you obtain in the last few seconds of your life.

Death isnt the end so why fear death this shit is eternal hahahahahahaha