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What situation is the USA going to be in 10-15 years?


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Title explains all. What is this country going to look like in 10-15 years? 20 years? 30 years?

With all this tension going on, and corruption happening, what is going to happen?

I suspect our country is going to break off and some states might succeed from the country

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The same as when the year 1995 asked 'what happens in 10-15 years?'. Lots happened.

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A utopia like Denmark or Norway, named the happiest countries on the planet by Forbes magazine.
good for people, good for business.

The World's Happiest Countries - Forbes.com

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If Ron Paul is elected a shining beacon to the rest of the world what true liberty can accomplish.

If anybody else is elected I believe we will adopt National Socialism eventually. The Federal Reserve will continue to create massive bubbles and inflation that will be blamed on capitalism. So uninformed masses will call for more government involvement in the economy which will result in the further fusion of big corporations with government. Militarism will rise as politicians attempt to distract people from the loss of liberty at home. We will have "free college" and "free healthcare" but the quality will be atrocious. The democrats and the republicans will fuse eventually and we will have a one party state. Basically Nazi Germany.

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Basically a lot better or we'll end up with some kind of socialist government at the current rate things are going. Widespread discontent generally leads to the masses turning to socialism as a way to even things out and improve their lives.

If the elite were smart they'd try to make things more equal on their own as true socialism would be bad for everybody.

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Basically a lot better or we'll end up with some kind of socialist government at the current rate things are going. Widespread discontent generally leads to the masses turning to socialism as a way to even things out and improve their lives.

If the elite were smart they'd try to make things more equal on their own as true socialism would be bad for everybody.


I don't think we'll see true socialism in the vein of Karl Marx in the United States, ever. I'm more worried about National Socialism taking root. A fusion of government and corporate interests, militarism, racial scape goats and a huge nanny state.

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A utopia like Denmark or Norway, named the happiest countries on the planet by Forbes magazine.
good for people, good for business.

The World's Happiest Countries - Forbes.com


I would distastefully flame you, but that's not in my character. I will encourage you to do a little research on the Family who's name graces the magazine you site as a source, their endorsement of the socialist utopias makes alot more sense after a little perspective is gained.

Forbes family - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Notable family members

[edit]Noted as businessmen
Grandson of John Forbes, John Murray Forbes (1813–1898): Born in France, John Murray Forbes was the first of the family to enter the China trade and later invested in railroads and amassed a large fortune.
His brother Robert Bennet Forbes (1804–1889): Partner of Russell & Company, and later associated with Yale University development and endownment.
His brother, Francis Blackwell Forbes (1839–1908).
Son of John, William Hathaway Forbes, backer and president of Alexander Graham Bell's telephone company
Son of Francis, James Grant Forbes (1879–1955)
[edit]Noted as politicians and activists
Many Forbes family members are influential in local or national politics in France, the US and the Philippines.
John Forbes (1740–1783): clergyman, first family member to travel to the United States
Grandson of James, John Forbes Kerry (born 1943): United States Senator and Democratic party candidate in the United States presidential election, 2004. Kerry has not worked in the private sector for Forbes family business interests and has spent his career in public service.
Son of William Hathaway, William Cameron Forbes used his wealth to become Governor General of the Philippines.
Niece of William Cameron, Ruth Forbes Paine Young tapped her Forbes family inheritance to finance the International Peace Academy.[2]
John Forbes Kerry's first cousin and friend, Brice Lalonde, an environmentalist activist, is a French Green party politician who was a candidate in the French presidential election, 1981 and currently mayor of Saint-Briac-sur-Mer near the Forbes family estate in France.
[edit]Genealogy

[edit]Ancestors in Scotland
Solvathius Forbes (c. 850), married daughter of King Giric of Scotland
Christopher Forbes
Christopher Forbes
Duncan Forbes
Ochonchar Forbes
Fergus de Forbes
Alexander de Forbes
Duncan de Forbes
[edit]Confirmed ancestors in Scotland
Sir John De Forbes, a man of rank and importance in the reign of William the Lion, of Scotland
Sir Fergus De Forbes, (b. before 1272)
Alexander De Forbes, (d. 1303, Loch Ness, Scotland), governor of Urquhart Castle in Moray, defended it 1304 against Edward I
Alexander De Forbes, (b. before 1303- killed 1332 while fighting for David II of Scotland in the battle of Dupplin Moor)
Sir John of the "Black Lip" Forbes, (b. in Aberdeenshire, Scotland), 1332 - d. before November 20, 1406), m. to Margaret Kennedy
Sir William Forbes (Laird of Kynaldy), (1385 - killed January 25, 1445 at the battle of Arbroath), m. to Agnes Fraser
Sir Alexander Forbes (Laird of Kynaldy), (d. 1477), m. to Maria Hay
William Forbes, (b. in Pitsligo, before 1477-), m. to Mariot Olgilvy
William Forbes, (b. in Dauch, Scotland, before 1500-), m. to Elizabeth Forbes
Alexander, 1st Forbes (Laird of Newe), (d. 1561), m. to Jean Lumsden
William, 2nd Forbes (Laird of Newe), (d. 1571), m. to Margaret Gordon
John "Blue Bonnet" 3rd Forbes (Laird of Newe), (d. 1616), m. to Isabel Burnet
Alexander, 4th Forbes (Laird of Newe), (d. 1654), m. to Janet Robertson
William, 5th Forbes (Laird of Newe) (d. 1698), m. to Helen Forbes
John Forbes (b. Descrie, Scotland, 1670–1739) m. to Margaret Farquharson
Archibald Forbes, (b. Deskrie, Scotland, 1713–1793, d. December 3, 1793, New Miln, of Keith, Scotland), m. to Henrietta Grant
[edit]Ancestors in the United States
The first members of the family to live in the United States was John Forbes, clergyman, son of Archibald Forbes, although the family retained its connections with Europe and John Murray Forbes was born in France.
Reverend John Forbes, (b. Deskrie, Scotland, 1740 - September 17, 1783), m. on February 2, 1769 to Dorothy "Dolly" Murray, (b. Tower Hill, London, Great Britain, February 4, 1745 - d. Brush Hill, Milton, Massachusetts June 9, 1811)
Colonel James Grant Forbes I, (b. St. Augustine, East Florida, November 22, 1769), m. to Francis Elizabeth Blackwell
Reverend John Murray Forbes, (1807–1885), m. to Anne Howell, (d. 1849)
Anna Adelaide Forbes (b 1842) m. 1874 Dr. John Carmichael (no Children)
John Murray Forbes, Jr (b 1844- d 1921) m. in 1882 Minnie Emmett Griswold
Gordon Forbes (b 1883 - d 1918) m. Frances Wilson (Frances m. 2nd Arthur Ogilvy)
Gordon Forbes (b 1918 Mass - d 2009) m. 1st to Catherine May Griffin (b 1918 Chicago - d 2003) (3 Children)
1. Deborah Wilson Forbes, b 1943- d 1974 (Catherine Caroline Forbes, b 1964)
2. Frances Stephanie Forbes, b 1946 - (Jessica Emelin, Georgia Emelin, Emma Houghton Gring)
3. Gordon Forbes (Erica Forbes, Alexandra Forbes)
m. 2nd to Violet "Patsy" Sweetser (4 children)
1. Arthur Ogilvy ("AO") Forbes
2. Susan Sarah ("Tootie") Forbes
3. Erica Forbes Shafroth
4. Juliana Forbes
m. 3rd Helga Kroll Forbes
1. Michael Gregor Forbes
m. 4th Greta Lum (no children)

Wilson Forbes (b 1915- d 1990) Santa Barbara m. Julia Lynch (no children)
John Griswold Forbes (b 1885 - d 1887)
Janet Forbes (b 1888)
Howell Forbes (b 1891)
John Murray Forbes (b 1893 - d 1971)
Francis Blackwell Forbes, (1839–1908), m. to Isabel Clarke Forbes, of China and France
Isobel Forbes (1868) m. Albert de Mimont
James Grant Forbes, (b. Shanghai, China, October 22, 1879 - d. Paris April 24, 1955), m. to Margaret Tyndal Winthrop, (1880–1970)
James Forbes
Jock Forbes
Griselda Forbes
Angela Forbes
Eileen Forbes Francais Tailleux
Vanessa tailleux and Carlo Tailleux
Monica Forbes
Christian and Lucinda Curtis
Alistair Forbes.
Peter Forbes
Ian Alexander Forbes (Fredericton N.B, Canada)
Veronica, Felcity, Alexander, Juillet, Grisselda Forbes
Iris Forbes, m. to Terence Armstrong (1920–1996) (British Arctic researcher)
Kevin Armstrong (teacher)
Fiona (Forbes) Lalonde m. Alain-Gauthier Lévy, later Lalonde (after name change)
Brice Lalonde, a French politician, who ran for President of France as the Green Party candidate in 1981
Rosemary Forbes Kerry, (b. Paris, October 27, 1913 - d. November 14, 2002), m. to Richard Kerry
Cameron Kerry
jessica and sarah kerry
Diane Kerry
Peggy Kerry, m. to George Kaler .
Iris forbes Kaler
John Forbes Kerry, (December 11, 1943 - ) m. to Teresa Heinz
Francis Murray Forbes, (founder of Cabot, Cabot & Forbes)
Cynthia (Forbes) Lyman, m. to John Lowell Lyman
Griselda Lyman, m. to Duncan Alexander White
John L. Lyman Jr, m. to Dorothy Marie Royer
Ethel Anna Forbes, b. 1880 or 1872 Shanghai, China
Charles Stewart Forbes, b. 1879 Shanghai, China
Evelyn Forbes Potter
John Murray Forbes, (August 13, 1771–1831) Buried in Buenos Aires, Argentina
Ralph Bennett Forbes, (August 1, 1773–1824) m. on October 13, 1801 to Margaret Perkins (sister of Colonel Thomas Handasyd Perkins)
John Murray Forbes of China and Boston, b. France (1813–1898), m. to Sarah Swain Hathaway, (1813–1900)
John Malcolm Forbes, (1847–1904), m. to Sarah Coffin Jones, (1852–1891)
Cpt. Gerrit Forbes, (1880–1964), m. 1st to Florence Emerson, (1882–1906), m. 2nd to Marthe De La Fruglaye, m. 3rd to Dita Weber
Helen Forbes, (1905–1911), (daughter of Gerrit Forbes and Florence Emerson)
Edith Forbes, (1906-....), (daughter of Gerrit Forbes and Florence Emerson)
Gordon Donald Forbes, (1915-....), (son of Gerrit Forbes and Marthe De La Fruglaye)
Marguerita Hoima Forbes, (1917–2001), (daughter of Gerrit Forbes and Marthe De La Fruglaye)
William Hathaway Forbes, (1840–1896), m. to Edith Emerson, (1841–1928), daughter of Ralph Waldo Emerson
Ralph Emerson Forbes (1863–1937), m. to Elise Cabot Forbes (daughter of Walter C. Cabot)[3]
Ruth Forbes (1903–1998) m. 1st George Lyman Paine Jr, m. 3rd Arthur M. Young, inventor of the Bell Helicopter; Ruth founded International Peace Academy and Forbes family fellows
Cameron Paine
Michael R. Paine[2] b. June 25, 1928, NYC, m. Ruth Hyde Paine, Oswald family benefactors in whose garage family friend Lee Harvey Oswald stored his rifle and in whose home Marina Oswald lived
William Cameron Forbes, (1870–1959), Gov. Gen. Philippines
Edith "Violet" Forbes
John Murray "Don" Forbes (Jr?)
Edward Waldo Forbes
Waldo Emerson Forbes
Alexander Forbes
Alice Hathaway Forbes (1838-)
Ellen Randolph Forbes (1838-)
Mary Hathaway Forbes (1844-)
Sarah Forbes (1853–1917), m. William Hastings Hughes (1833–1909). They had issue Walter Scott Hughes (1888–1953) and Dorothea Hughes (1891–1952), a Quaker and philanthropist who was described as 'a veritable patron saint to the loving people [of Jamaica]'
Captain Robert Bennett Forbes (1804–1889), m. to Rose Greene Smith (1798–1885)
Robert Bennett Forbes (1836-)
Edith Forbes (1843–1925), m. to Charles Eliot Perkins
James Murray Forbes (1845–1937), m. to Alice Francis(Bowditch) Forbes
Allan Forbes (1874–1955), m. to Josephine (Crosby) Forbes (1885–1967)
Phyllis Forbes (1915–2009), m. to Tudor Leland
Robert Forbes Leland
Lysa Leland
Daphne Leland, m. Robert Borden
Robert Bennet Forbes
Phyllis Forbes m. Andrew Kerr
Elizabeth Lee Forbes
Allan Forbes, Jr., author and documentary filmmaker
Bo Forbes
Stefan Forbes, m. Tia Wou (1962-)
Danuta Forbes
James Murray Forbes (1922–2008)
Michael Robert Bennett Forbes
Catherine Sophia Forbes
James Murray Forbes, snr. m. Kylie (Wiltshire)
Sienna Rose Forbes
James Murray Forbes Jr.
Henry Ashton Crosby Forbes (1925-), m. to Grace (Pierce) Forbes (1927–2003)
Robert Pierce Forbes (1958-), m. to Joanne Ellen Foodim (1958-)
Rachel Young-Eun Foodim Forbes (1989-)
David Jong Bennet Forbes (1991-)
Douglas Bowditch Forbes (1961-)
Mary Bowditch Forbes (1878–1962) (founder of the Mary Bowditch Forbes Collection of Abraham Lincoln memorabilia.)
Dorothy Forbes (1880–1944)
Joseph Barlow Forbes (1840–1927)
Olive Edith Forbes
Paul Dayton Bailey (1906–1987)
Thomas Andrew Forbes (1951–2001)
Thomas Andrew Forbes II (1967-)
Meghan Forbes (1995-)
Chelsea Forbes (1999-)
Thomas Andrew Forbes III (2004-)
Mary Ann Fober (1995)
Thomas Forbes a Vietnam War veteran (1944-)



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A utopia like Denmark or Norway, named the happiest countries on the planet by Forbes magazine.
good for people, good for business.

The World's Happiest Countries - Forbes.com


i dont know how to tell you this..but
Australia is the best country to live in :D

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president in 2024

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you don't want to imagine it.

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Whats that movie called again... Idiocracy! thats it!

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It's got electrolytes!
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Your monehs.....

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If Ron Paul is elected we will be having economic growth. If anyone else is elected we will be in a deeper depression most likely. A 10 year depression is a pretty sure thing, but even 20 years is possible. The US Dollar definitely won't be the world's reserve currency.

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Ever see that movie The Road? Yeah, like that. :(

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:)

Ever see that movie The Road? Yeah, like that. :(


I've actually just finished reading the book. I don't believe it will be that extreme.

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:)

I've actually just finished reading the book. I don't believe it will be that extreme.


haha weird! im reading it now, almost done. charred baby on a spit.. its chilling.




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