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Posted 15 November 2011 - 07:26 PM

Whenever I eat edibles, I never seem to really feel it. I have a high metabolism as I'm a gymnast and martial artist, so I was wondering if that had something to do with it. I've eaten 1/8 in an edible all at once and still not really felt anything... I love the convenience of edibles as its great for public things like amusement parks.. I wish I could feel it! I in no way have a high tolerance when it comes to pipe bong or vape hits either :/
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 09:18 PM

Some people have different digestive requirements... even in 'healthy' digestive tracts there are small variances person to person, but in this day and age, with the unhealthy diets (even excluding fast food) and occasional exposure to all the strange chemicals and plastics they find in processed and treated products, even in 'fresh' vegetables, you can't throw a stone without hitting someone who has crohn's, IBS, gerd, or any range of gastrointestinal ailments, or even just an intolerance of a greater or lesser degree, to ingredients they may, or may not even realize they're allergic to.


That being said, it could be the quality of the oil used in the edibles you've had.. even if it effects a few other people, their tolerances may be lower than yours, or their stomachs may be able to digest and absorb the cooking oil used during the extraction more easily than yours.

Especially if you haven't already, but even if you have, you should try making a proper batch of oil... don't rush it, it's very easy and only requires a few minutes of your time during prep and completion, the rest is spent waiting while your oil activates, and gently breaks down in your pure oil source.


Coconut oil is one of, if not the best oil that you could use, clarified butter is also very good. They contain high amounts of MCT (medium-chain triglycerides) and SCT (short-chain triglycerides), which, particularly in coconut oil, are rapidly and readily absorbed through the portal vein and in the liver, where your cannabinoids can be converted and passed through to the blood stream, in a now-more-powerful form. Coconut oil has an MCT content of over 68%, and MCTs do not require bile salts for absorption, this can be a crucial point for some patients. They absorb almost as rapidly as glucose to provide a faster, more intense onset, when you need your meds to kick in quick and effectively.


The long-chain triglycerides found in corn oil, olive oil, canola oil, and other common supermarket (usually bargain-cost) oils, are absorbed lymphatically, which bypasses the liver, and comes close to eliminating most of your liver conversion. And if your tract happens to be distressed in any way, these are the fats that are most likely to be discharged and absorbed the slowest, which decreases the intensity of your onset, reduces the overall sensation and leaves more material to be 'passed' without any absorption at all.



I've whipped up a little diagram, to help explain how your oil source makes a direct impact, on the route of cannabinoid absorption.


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Your oil, is your 'edible solvent', the glandular material is your solute, when broken down properly you have a solution that is formed in such a way when the solvent creates a thin encapsulative effect around the miniscule and broken down particles of solute, in this case it is a particular oil source, that is coating glandular material in the form of various cannabinoids and terpenes.

With that coat, it directly effects the direction your cannabinoids will be absorbed.

Cannabis glandular material is notoriously difficult to absorb all on its own, even when it has been activated, even when it appears sticky or gooey in the form of a concentrate.

Picture it, instead of slipping in and through, for the most part bouncing off cellular walls on impact. Once it has been coated in a certain oil source, on impact with a particular cellular wall, it will now slip right through almost effortlessly.
And it will take a different route, choosing different areas of absorption, depending on the qualities of the oil you used to coat it...

If it bypasses the liver, this could be good if you had not eaten in many hours, and if your liver was very hungry and about to burn off your potency.
But if your liver was satisfied and you wanted to feel the benefit of the cannabinoid conversion (from active D9-THC, to very-active 11-OH-THC, which is according to some specialists between 3 to 5 times more powerful in effect than D9-THC), you would not want your oil to cause the majority of your potency to bypass your liver.

Most patients seeking more intense pain relief and sedation, along with the array of other medicinal benefits of cannabis (and most people using cannabis recreationally ;) ) will want to use a high content MCT oil to avoid bypassing the liver, in order to encourage a good amount of conversion.




This is why some edibles kick in harder than others, and sometimes a small meal a few hours in advance helps, or (in the case of long-chain lymphatic absorption, bypassing the liver) doesn't make much difference at all.

Whether you prime your liver with a meal or not, if you're bypassing it for the most part with LCTs, there will be very little effect because you're not going to burn off or convert many cannabinoids, they will remain in their current form as they enter the blood stream lymphatically, similar to a slower-paced sublingual absorption with reduced length of effect, and without becoming more potent in the liver.


When you use a quality oil source, and process your herb properly, a person of any level of health will have improved sensation and absorption. :) But improvements will be noticed especially in those people who (unknowingly, even) have digestive difficulties. It's crucial that the oil be processed well, and in such a way that works with and not against your condition.


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To learn how to make this (or your trimmings...)


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Into, this...

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See the link below:

(First Page, contains detailed information on decarboxylation, or cannabinoid conversion..
decarboxylation is the process of activating your cannabinoids 'potency' by removing the
carboxyl group in the form of carbon dioxide and water vapor, converting your cannabinoids
from their acid, to their more potent delta forms):

Photo Tutorial: Highly Activated Med Grade Bioavailable Canna & Hash Oil, Edibles, Drinkables and more...


The best oils, produce little to no odor during processing, if sealed properly and heated and cooled correctly. You can easily put it in any boxed brownie mix... be sure to read the final paragraph for detailed dosage information.


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After working at it for a few years, and after making a few changes in oil source and altering my processing methods, I went from being the only person in the room who'd eat three and four times my suggested dose (the amount I'd smoke) in edibles while feeling nothing at all, while most all my friends and patients felt intensely medicated from a single edible dose, to finally being able to eat roughly the same amount that I smoke, to achieve good, solid, long-lasting effects. :hello:

What's more, I was finding that a small number of other patients, who also had not been having very much success with edibles were, with a few changes depending on their needs, were also finally feeling anywhere from slightly, to VERY medicate as well, and the one's who were already satisfied started cutting single doses in half.



The medical canna community has come a long way, since the days of the water-butter methods, and the quick-fry canna oils, using whatever random oil we happened to have in our pantries. Posted Image

With a little tweaking, you should be able to make a high quality oil VERY easily, and a method for consuming your edible that works best for you.



Sorry for the long post, hope it helps.. :)

Edited by BadKittySmiles, 15 November 2011 - 09:21 PM.





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