Get ready for war with Iran

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  1. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dmz8JO9zIw]A Briefing on Iran's Nuclear Program - YouTube[/ame]
     
  2. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kAZoIQG8Rg]Iran, Nuclear Weapons, Imperialism and Inflation - YouTube[/ame]
     
  3. let the bullshit begin.....:mad:





    October surprise: US and Israel prepare to strike Iran

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    Published: 09 October, 2012, 21:05


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    A US Air Force B-52 bomber. (AFP Photo / Roslan Rahman)


    The United States and Israel are already involved in discussions over how they could soon conduct a joint surgical strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, a source close to the talks tells Foreign Policy magazine.
    After months of urging from Israeli authorities for the US to intervene in a rumored Iranian plan to procure a nuke, a source speaking on condition of anonymity tells Foreign Policy's David Rothkopf that the two allies have come close to signing off on an attack against Iran.
    Although no plan of action has been set in stone yet, the source says the attack will likely be from the sky and consist of drone strikes and bomber jets for only “a couple of hours” at best but would not require more than “a day or two” of action.
    But while the US has not officially signed onto the strike, the source reports, American involvement would be absolutely necessary in order to effectively take out the structures where Iranian scientists are assumed to be attempting to procure a nuclear warhead.
    “To get to buried Iranian facilities, such as the enrichment plant at Fordow, would require bunker-busting munitions on a scale that no Israeli plane is capable of delivering,” Rothkopf writes in the article, published Monday, October 8. “The mission, therefore, must involve the United States, whether acting alone or in concert with the Israelis and others.”
    Israel has long attested that Iranian officials are enriching nuclear materials to be used with volatile warheads, despite longstanding claims from Iran that any program they are operating exists for peaceful purposes only. Hostilities between Israel and their neighboring foe have only worsened as of late, prompting Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to insist that America draw “red lines before Iran,” and demand that the US offer them an ultimatum before time runs out. Last month US President Barack Obama dismissed Israel's warnings against an escalating nuclear threat, though, saying he understand their concerns over what damage Iran could do with a nuclear weapon, but that he would continue to “block out any noise” from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as he insists on American intervention.
    Speaking before the United Nations General Assembly only days later, though, President Obama appeared to be more willing to act if Iran is proven to be procuring a weapon of mass destruction, vowing, “the United States will do what we must to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon,” and said that any attempts by Iran to procure a nuclear warhead would “threaten the elimination of Israel, the security of Gulf nations, and the stability of the global economy” and is “not a challenge that can be contained.”
    Now following a report RT published last week concerning classified footage of Iranian facilities believed to be handed over to American intelligence from a defected member of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad entourage, the US may finally be ready to give in to Israeli pressure and strike Iran.
    If the rumored plan of attack is put into action, the source says, the strike is expected to set back the nation's nuclear program “many years,” and doing so without civilian casualties. The end result, however, could be one immensely beneficial to America, specifically its holdings in the Middle East where the country has long expressed a vested interested.
    Should US provide power to strike Iran, the source says, the attack would have a long-term effect in the region, but particularly on America's investments there. The strike, says the source, would be “transformative,” – "saving Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, reanimating the peace process, securing the (Persian) Gulf, sending an unequivocal message to Russia and China, and assuring American ascendancy in the region for a decade to come."
    Should Israel strike Iran without the direct aid of the US, however, America would not necessarily be in the clear. Although President Obama has advocated for a peaceful resolution to Israeli/Iranian disputes, Iran's officials have suggested that they have no problem with striking the US if their allies make the first move.
    Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh of Iran's Revolutionary Guard told reporters last month that his country “will definitely be at war with American bases should a war break out,” explaining that "There will be no neutral country in the region," and, "To us, these bases are equal to US soil."
     
  4. I don't think it'll turn into a larger conflict if all it is is a surgical strike. I think the Iranians will cut their losses instead of committing suicide by shutting down the strait.
     
  5. Does it bother no one that Iran has no nuclear weapon and is using their uranium for peaceful purposes, as they are free to do under the NPT?

    This death march is sickening.
     
  6. wouldn't they wait until after the election?


    and if there is a draft I'm good. I broke my elbow bad a few weeks ago and im not fit for war yay lol
     
  7. Iran sealed their own fate by opening the Iranian Oil Bourse.

    Iranian oil bourse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Iran stops selling oil in U.S. dollars -report | Reuters

    Same thing happened to Saddam when he choose to sell his oil in euros over dollars.

    Foreign Exchange: Saddam Turns His Back on Greenbacks - TIME


    Anyone that challenges the petro dollar that allows the US to export it's inflation through Treasuries around the world in return for real goods, they always meet an untimely end after a western media blitzkrieg and the inevitable overthrow.
     
  8. Why even mention the NPT when they will not allow the inspectors the access that was agreed upon?

    I don't really "get" all the support for Iran, when it is they who are fucking themselves over. :smoke:
     
  9. I'm not supporting Iran. I'm just against inflicting misery and war on people for no reason.
     
  10. [quote name='"Nathan"']wouldn't they wait until after the election?

    and if there is a draft I'm good. I broke my elbow bad a few weeks ago and im not fit for war yay lol[/quote]

    Don't worry the government will wait. Once your all healed up, then they will draft you. Or you could be a drone pilot. I think you only need one arm for that.
     
  11. Nice article but I think Dennis has it backwards. It was written in May and seems to emphasis the need to lessen other non-diplomatic actions while still pre-positioning materials in a subtle manner.

    This was part of the second bill - Congress must avoid the same mistakes it made in the Iraq war and reject any language that can be construed as authorizing war against Iran. :smoke:
     
  12. U.S. Officials Say Iran Has Agreed to Nuclear Talks

    Interesting. I'm hopeful these negotiations work out. Thought it's funny that Iranian leadership don't want it to be openly known that they're talking to the Great Satan while US leaders likewise don't want this getting out.

    I'll bet 10,000 rials that Willard brings this report up on Monday. He'll be all

    HOW CAN THIS ADMINISTRATION DARE NEGOTIATE WITH THE MAN WHO SAID HE WANTS TO WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP

    BIBI

    DAYLIGHT BETWEEN US AND ISRAEL

    SHOULDER TO SHOULDER WITH OUR CLOSEST ALLY

    I'LL MAKE AMERICA STRONG AGAIN

    I LOVE BIBI, etc.
     
  13. Iran is most likely scared shitless that if Mitt is elected his first order of business will be to bomb them and morph into the real Daddy Warbucks....
     
  14. Iran Sanctions Take Unexpected Toll on Medical Imports

    Strange headline. In what way is it "unexpected" that the sanctions would all but cut-off Iran's importation of crucial medical supplies and life-sustaining medicine? The sanctions are precisely intended to do such things.

    Why else would Obama, Romney and rest of the War Pigs unanimously cheer in adulation over how "crippling" these sanctions have been for the Iranians?
     

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