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People say that vaping raises their tolerance a lot, but...

Discussion in 'Apprentice Marijuana Consumption' started by jjassonn, Oct 28, 2011.

  1. are they smoking and vaping the same amount of weed? If you alternate between vaping .3 and smoking .3, of course you're going to get higher from vaping .3 because vaping is about 50% more efficient.

    Do people take this into account when they say vaping increases their tolerance to crazy degrees?
     
  2. and would this also explain why some people think that vaping gets them higher?
     
  3. i find that when i vape for a couple weeks straight, i build up a tolerance to vaping. but then i smoke one bowl out of my one hitter and im ripped.
     
  4. The high you get from vaping is different than the high you get from smoking, I find. I can see it being possible to build up a tolerance to one and not the other. That'd be a good way to avoid t-breaks. Vape one week, smoke the next.
     
  5. When you vaporize as your only/main method of smoking, you build up a tolerance to vaporizing. I went through a four month period where all I did was vaporize, noticed my tolerance was increasing steadily, and tried my bong the next day, getting the same effects as I did before my 4 month vape-a-thon. In this past year I have not needed a t-break, yet still have just a moderate tolerance. I just do something similar to what Zizzy said, Vaporize for say week and a half-two weeks, with the odd bong session, rotate, repeat.

    Sorry for the paragraph, blazed :smoke:
     
  6. Idk, I vaporize 99.9 % of the time but one time my friend offered me a joint of some bubba kush and we both smoked it and I didn't even feel high from it at all. I was so pissed because that has never happened to me before. For me, vaping raised my tolerance ALOT i guess.
     
  7. Same with me, joints just don't do the trick most of the time.
     

  8. but did you guys miss my point? vaping is like 75% more efficient than joints, so you're getting way, way less thc and cannabinoids if you're using the same amount of weed for each method
     

  9. You have a source for that or you just pulling those percent's outta your ass? :confused: Honestly I'd like to know, I might invest in a vape soon.
     
  10. My experience has been If I vape one strain, for one day, I don't get as high on my 2nd or 3rd vape.

    If I vape 1 strain, get toasted, come down, then vape a different strain, I get just as high as the first vape of the day.

    It's good to have multiple strains when your vaping. But vaping a single strain more than once will lessen your high on the second bowl, just like with smoking.:smoke:
     
  11. I vaped massive amounts of 'erb three times a day for a month straight in the summer and I got destroyed every time.

    Then again it WAS Durban Poison.............
     
  12. I don't really feel like I get higher from vaping, but I think that's just cause it takes so long. I never noticed that vaping increased my tolerance at all. Actually I find that if I vape for a long time and then hit a bong one day I get wiiiicked high because I'm not used to getting so much so quickly.
     

  13. i've heard people who presumably know what they're talking about on here throw numbers around like 50% or 60%. Since joints are less efficient than bongs or pipes, i bumped it up to 75%. maybe it's only 60-70% less efficient. idk
     
  14. Due to the CBD-THC percentage yield while burning, smoking tends to [chemically] get people higher than vaping since being high is a direct result of THC percent and the hotter cannabis burns, the higher percent of THC enters into the smoke (usually smoking burns the weed, causing hotter temperatures than vaporizing it).

    Essentially, a vaporizer builds tolerance faster because you need more vaped in order to achieve the same "high" but the amount of CBDs and other yummy chemicals in cannabis are at larger amounts. This results in a healthier process, but more likely to make one stoned and not high (which for some people is quite a different feeling!). So, you're getting less high but you're getting more cannabis in your system.

    If you want to get higher from your vaporizer, there are numerous techniques to simulate a smoking high. Increasing the temperature to around 380-400 degrees F will create a higher THC content and thus, result in being higher. (Alternatively, if you reduce it to about 280-340 F, you will not feel as high but you will still be getting amazing benefits from the cannabis... this is great for when you have a cold, but don't want to get high). Also, sprinkling kief on a bowl in the vaporizer will instantly kick up the high because you are actively including more THC (since kief is mainly pure THC crystals) into the bowl than would normally be there. This is dangerous though as kief can make your tolerance climb up very quickly.

    What I find is that using kief when I want to be high instead of smoking or using a larger amount of weed to vaporize is the best way to go and then when you want to lower your tolerance, just don't add the kief and continue smoking the regular amount and then re-introduce the kief after a week. This allows people to continue medicating instead of having to go on 'cold-turkey' T-breaks.
     
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  15. #15 thefunkygiant, Oct 29, 2011
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    Vaping has ruined me for any other type of smoking joints bowls even my Sheldon black just don't taste the same let a lone how much higher I get been vapingbfor 60 days straight and building a slow tolerance up, will have to take a t break since smoking dank seems a waste to me now..
    Just went back and read the post above me what?? Are you talking about...?
     
  16. What are you even talking about :confused:

    You're so wrong I don't even know where to begin, this is one of the most wack posts I've seen on here.

    You will NOT get more THC the hotter your cannabis burns, in fact fire degrades the shit out of THC. I don't know the exact temperatures, but there's a number of cannabinoids which vaporize at a higher temperature than THC does, and they do play roles in your high. That stoned couch lock feeling is attributed to cannabinoids, not THC. There are A LOT OF COMPOUNDS, which is why different strains, different methods of delivery, etc. can have such a diverse affect on the high.

    Kief is NOT mainly THC 'crystals', THC isn't even a fucking crystal. Kief is much higher in THC% than bud though, since much of it is trichomes (less plant matter = more fun matter).

    Sorry to be a dick, but spreading complete bullshit as if you actually have the knowledge to back it up is just detrimental, if you don't actually know don't pretend to.

    In regards to the original post; you will develop tolerance quicker if you are consuming more psychoactive compounds basically (let's just say THC only to keep it simple), it's as simple as that. Whether you are vaping, smoking, whatever. The more THC you intake the higher your tolerance will go. If you want the numbers, well you're going to be hard pressed to find really solid data, but there are a number of studies out there that you can literally just google in which they tested joints, bongs, vapes, etc. It's widely accepted that joints deliver signifcantly less THC, than say a bong or a vape. In my opinion, vaporizing will get you the highest you can get, but it can be very slow to get it all, whereas with a bong you can instantly take in huge amounts. Of course there are ways to get massive amounts of THC though vaporization, such as hash oil on a titanium/glass nail/skillet, bong converters, etc. Just look around with the search function or google for specifics.
     
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  17. I'm gonna chime in with my vaping experience, as it goes against what most people are saying here.

    I only smoked for a period of 2.5-3 years and got plenty high. My tolerance was a bitch for a majority of it.
    Then I got a Purple Days vape. I will attest to the efficiency of vaping.

    HOWEVER.

    Don't necessarily buy into all of this hype about a 'cleaner with no couchlock' high. I was expecting a whole different animal when I used my vape, that the high would be quite different than smoking.

    It's not. I went in expecting a huge change and was surprised by the fact that the two routes are more similar than they are different. I can't deny that there IS a difference - many different chemicals, such as higher-temp cannabinoids and byproducts of the combustion process (which you don't want to inhale!) are going into you when you smoke, which you don't get from vaping.

    But after 4 stems through my PD, I'm fucking ripped and no way am I getting up from my couch. You're extremely high at that point. In my opinion, 'stoned' is just a way of saying you're wicked high. It's annoyingly nitpicky to differentiate beyond that. It's fucking semantics, people. Saying vaping is only a 'cleaner head high' is kinda selling it short, IMO.
     
  18. ^ depends on what temp you vape at. with mflb i can control how much couchlock i get by how high the temps are i roughly vape at
     
  19. I've owned a (whip) vaporizer for close to a year now, and I've been smoking bud for a pretty solid 8 years.

    From what I've learned about the vaporizer is that it heats the Cannabis to a temperature that is low enough to avoid combustion and high enough to vaporize the resin/THC, that's the jist of it anyways. That's likely not news to anyone interested in vaporizers. :laughing:

    I've also learned, it seems other people here have as well, that it vaporizes the THC more efficiently than through the method of combustion, that being because you can vaporize the bud to the point of containing no THC, where as with combustion a lot of it is supposedly wasted (the bowl in my bong (name:milkyway) would agree).

    Original Question: People say that vaping raises their tolerance a lot, but... are they smoking and vaping the same amount of weed?

    I'm not sure about the percantage of efficieny, only that it is definitely more efficient in releasing THC vapors. This and what the OP has already said would further the presumption that vaporizing THC would increase your tolerance more than combustion would when measuring with the same amount of THC intake via said methods. That's if more THC in body equals more tolerance in body.

    Further Inquiry: ...and would this also explain why some people think that vaping gets them higher?

    This is the most interesting discussion regarding vaporizers to me.

    Can a person really say for certain? In my experienced opinion, I would say "getting high" is mostly what you make of it, if you are giggly you'll giggle, chill - chill, happy - happy, sad - sad. I'll admit, that's quite the blanket statement. There are a lot of factors that go into (high) experiences, but even if you were to be sitting in a cage, stoned out of your tree, it's up to you whether or not you enjoy the high and the experience. Maybe given your life circumstances you can't find enjoyment in something or some event, and that's fine.

    I will attest to the notion that vaporizing is a "cleaner" high. This seems very logical to me. When you "smoke" Cannabis, the combustion releases a lot of carcinogenic chemicals and the like. That's why some people I know who have tried both prefer smoking, it gives them a grandeur feeling of high that is more genuine of the experience to them, more of a "I'm fucked up" feeling. Which is fine, obviously. There are others, myself included, who prefer the effects of vaporizing. For myself, I find it gives me the mellow relaxed feeling of getting high, let's me see and think clearly in meditative thinking and reflection, and gives me highly concentrated focus on things like work and hobbies (I'm sure people have cleaned something while high). I smoke time to time but it adds a level of paranoia for me personally, so the situation must suffice at reassuring me that unlikely possiblities are not strong probabilities.

    I vaporize pretty much daily (currently with time of post), so I could be coming off as biased to vaporizing. I smoked for a large majority of my "career" and there is nothing wrong with it. Over time, vaporizing is less hard on my lungs and my wallet, that's all.

    Anyways, that's my two cents. If I'm spreading any misinformation please point out what and why. I'm going to continue vaping and browsing this forum. :smoke:
     

  20. I think what he's saying is that when smoking, there's a higher ratio of THC compared to other cannabinoids. The smoke is however less potent than a vape cloud since fire destroys thc and other cannabinoids.
    When vaping you get more of the other cannabinoids compared to smoking, and as you may know, CBD and CBN tone down the high from THC. So say you vape bowl after bowl in your vaporizer. After a while you're going to have a lot of CBD and CBN in your system that counteracts the THC high you desire, and you just wont get as high as you want.
    This is just how I interpreted the post. I don't know if there's more CBD and CBN when vaping, is there?
     

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