Official Grasscity Paranormal & Occult Thread

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  1. #1 Vicious, Sep 6, 2011
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    I see a new ghost, world mysteries, astral projection threads none stop, they die out and a new one is made. This is to keep it organized and more for general discussion for the paranormal.

    Alright all you /x/philes out there. Post what you believe, have seen, or what you are skeptical about. Everything from Astral planes, Astral projection multiple dimensions, ancient aliens, ghost, magick, sigils, angles, demons, summonings, monoliths, ancients artifacts, lucid dreams, high level meditation. Try to keep conspiracy theories to a low unless it involves the paranormal, such as masons, Templar and Illuminati using higher knowledge or straight up ritual. Magic thinking psychologically, spirituality and spiritual science or even celestial beings and of course religion. Also can't forget ouiji boards.

    It all goes here. I realize there is already an astral projection thread and will link it for info but try as topics get long they go OT, try to keep it in here if possible.

    I've shared my ghost encounter in Bahamas several times and there are other things I don't enjoy talking about, but I'll start off with one of my 'ghost' encounters after this original post and some things about meditation and what I believe about higher intelligence, spirits and astral planes.

    Post what you want without fear of scrutiny, if you are a septic or straight out don't believe, post why. Lets keep this civil and educated. Feel free to post whatever. If you're ballzy enough non-believer I can give you demon summoning rituals, ways to open and invite spirits or even a proper guide to selling your soul. Would you risk it if you truly don't believe? For believers I can also post these, sigil guides, summonings, e-books on every subject listed.

    I want this to be a place to share stories, debate and share Intel.
     
  2. looks like the normal paranormal regulars are offline so i'll start off with a true story before I go into my beliefs and theories.

    I was in the Bahamas, Bimini to be exact. One of the smallest islands of the set and home to another wonder, the Bimini road, which is basically believed to be an underwater road to Atlantis, each stone has incredible weight and would be hard if not impossible to construct at the time it came to be, though some belive they were formed naturally, it's the underwater stonehedge, thats not right but I can't remember the name of the other monolith site with the labyrinths.

    Back to the ghost story. I use to go to Bimini once a year for lobstering and deep sea fishing. We were with about 4 couples including our group on two or three different boats. Anyways we were staying at a small hotel, I call it a hotel because there is maybe one two story resort but where we were staying wouldn't be right to call a motel.

    Well two of the four groups knew that a double murder took place there but that's not something you really want to tell the others because we assumed they had the room. Wrong. Since we knew basically all the occupants of the place I had been in each room. We knew from one of the maids that everything was replaced in the room where the murder happened. Well I had been in all the room, same wall paper, same appliances, same everything. Then it dons on me that our room is the one with the new appliances, the new wallpaper, new ceiling panels.

    At the time I was a skeptic so I didn't let it bother me too much. I get sea sick easy and the seas were ruff that day so I decided to stay in the room, watch TV and light up their excuse of weed (or so I thought, looked like horrible shwagg, but it was the stickiest, crystaliest, bombest sativia I had smoked since I had my hands on an indoor grow, looks can be deceiving.)

    Anyways, so I'm litting up watching TV when I feel a presence in the room, I've been able to feel things like this since I was little but this is the first time I've ever seen anything. I knew I wasn't alone and the hair stood up on my neck and I got goose bumps. I'm getting them now typing this. You know how sometimes you catch something in the corner of your eye, you look and it's gone. I caught a glimpse and reluctantly turned my head to it. There i see the silhouette of a woman, normally it would be gone when you turn your head but it sat there and stared at me with the most malicious and hate filled eyes I have ever seen. My heart stopped cold. We looked at each other for a good 10 seconds, I did a double take and she was gone. Still spooked I turn to my right and there she is even closer to me staring not at me, but through me, into me.

    I said NOPE, ran out and never entered the room alone again. Spooks me to this day. I do not invite spirits into my home and have somewhat of a mental barrier so I've never experienced something like this at home, other places I can feel presence but thats the first time a spirit ever exposed themselves to me. If it had happened now I would talk to it, tell it my intent and see where it went from there but this was not a good spirit and I would fear if I did that it would stick to me.

    I've had other experiences but those were more with borderline consciousness with lucid dreams and astral projection. Some great experiences, others I don't want to talk about but will if I must.
     
  3. #3 Fredbear, Sep 6, 2011
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    [​IMG]First off Iam totally sane....don't take meds and I don't see things (hallucinate) as part of my daily life. But one night after I smoked a joint I saw a lot of things that were very creepy.
    Now I had smoked this weed before so its not like it was new, as I rolled it right out of the same bag as before. Iam a very spiritual person and had asked God a few times to show me the spirit world cause I am interested in spiritual warfare cause I know there is a everyday battle that goes on and most times I get sucked in as my defences gets lowered from intoxicating spirits.....ANYWAY!
    I will get on with it..right after I smoked the joint I started getting a creepy feeling and as I looked into the woods I saw two little red eyes glowing.....looking at me. Then the shape of an animal abound the shape of a big dog appeared. Wings shot forth on both sides and reveiled itself to be a demon.....I was pretty scared at first but as I stepped back the voice that guides me says what are scared of. Yes I do have the Holy Spirit in me as I stood there looking at the demon......The voice says look bigger so I relax a bit and another demon around the size of a house appears and it also had wings that were outstretched with smaller demons under the wings like a motor bird would shelter her young.
    As I take in more sights of the spiritual world more images start to appear like naked woman's bodys but they were like porno bodys big fake tits and really nice butts but the demons had ugly faces not like the media portrays..... you know the hot sexy demon.....these bitches were sicking. More really black shadow looking wispy looking things that lurked between the trees....darting from trunk to trunk. Crazy types of bird looking things flying about.......And at this time my spirit says No! Loook bigger as I start to open myself up more I see it all.
    Everywhere I looked I saw them.....totally surrounding my house, creeping, flying...lurking. But then I noticed that they stopped right were I prayed protection over my property My house looked like one of those snowglobes it was inside and the demons were outside. as Im standing there looking around in awe My dog comes up to me and looks exactly where im looking then looks back at me as if he was saying.......see thats what im aways barking at.

    my visions were sooo vivid they were totally believable how they formed I don't know but whe I told this to people who studied demonology and stuff he said what I described was spot on.
     
  4. #4 Vicious, Sep 6, 2011
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    In my opionion, those weren't visions, you asked God to see spirits and you were awakened. It might not have been God, but if you have faith in spirituality and ask for their presence you are inviting them, you got what you wished for though it may have not been from God but more like you awakened yourself.

    Demons are often portrayed. They're basically trolls. They make deals for energy or i larger deal if you offer more, a weeks worth of energy, a sacrifice, a soul. This however isn't good for your spirtual health if you don't set guide lines and barriors, it's not something an amateur should attempt but you did nothing wrong with wanting to be awakened. I try to stick away from demons because they don't like to be bothered without an offer, usually energy, like messeth, a lessor demon. If you try to summon one of the 72 demons from the lessor key you better know what your doing.

    Angels are similar to demons in an aspect but they don't troll, they don't drain you, they feed off your positive energy. But they can be equally cruel and think little of humans. You just have to have knowledge of what you're dealing with.

    I'm not into summonings though, more like psuedo magic that deals with the astral. If you're worried about these demons you can either talk to them, ballzy i know, or if you want I can help you with some sigils or charms that will word any malicious spirit.

    What I think happened was when you asked God to see the astral plane, God did not answer but instead you invited spirits into your life good in bad without prior knowledge. There might not only be demons around you but any spirit good or bad. Think about the thousands of years and all those who have died, this may not be true but with spiritual science and astral planes overlapping our reality, spirits are everywhere good and bad, you may have unintentionally invited them all.

    If you're intrested in more of this let me know. Again, I'm an amateur at this, but i'll help with the best of my knowledge.

    inb4 atheist debunks all this as demons don't exist because religion is false. I'm sorry, but the astral plane is very real and anyone who has projected knows this. This is not a cop out card by saying science can't explain it, it can't explain it because it's other worldly, science applies in our reality, not all other realms. Just because you don't believe in religion doesn't mean spirits don't exist, and they do. Some may return to nothingness after you die because you have a week spirit and was maybe devoured or didn't have the energy to continue existing. But others will continue on in the astral realm, maybe simply that, maybe heaven or hell. We won't know till we die.

    Jesus, I sound like a maniac, but spiritual science is a field that's booming right now. Question all but don't blindly disbelieve.
     
  5. That it is my friend.

    I have never astral projected even though id like to someday.
    Im not religious but im very spiritual.

    I used to believe in heaven and hell but im on the fence about that now. If god really loved us why would he make us burn for are sins?
    I just dont get it.
    Like why would he create us in his image just for us to fail ya know?

    My mom used to be a Sunday school teacher and she said God knows everything were going to do in our whole life, like he knows are whole lives before were even born.

    Idk but i do believe in energy and that once you die its not eternal blackness forever.

    I believe 110% that the astral is real though, other dimensions and planes of reality co existing as one.
    Kind of like a radio frequency of sorts, you can tune it to one station then another, but the station you just turned to is still there its just your tuned into a different frequency. Thats how i see it at least.
     
  6. #6 Vicious, Sep 6, 2011
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    I don't know if heaven or hell is in the the astral but I do believe in angels, demons, guardians and other spirits entities, I also believe in a creator. I believe that creator has given us messages but basically laid out the blueprints and left the rest up to us. With that said I believe in a abrahamic creator, but it was humans that interpreted his words. I believe when God gives you a message, it's not something in word but something more abstract, more like a feeling or clarity. I also believe God isn't what most people think it to be, I think of it as a highly evolved celestial being basically at the height of intelligence and evolution. There may be many gods but I believe in my creator. The bible and other grimours don't deny other gods, it just says not to worship them.

    My friend got on me because I said I believe in some stories of the Qur'an, the Bible and the Torah. I also believe Buddha was an amazing teacher who found higher intelligence and became enlightened. He said "no, you have to pick one, and it's either you believe it all or you don't, it's all God's words" I said I disagree, the books were written by man interpreting God's word, I don't have to believe it all.

    I guess if I had to say I'm psuedo-christian-buddhist-with a twist of spirituality. Then you get people saying that's not how it works, you're just believing what is convenient for you and making things up. I just believe what makes sense to me.

    Also don't take astral projection lightly. There are very nasty planes out there. I have seen pure benevolence and I have seen pure darkness and evil, evil doesn't begin to describe it. Thats why I said when you die non-existence is possible but you're energy must be consumed first. Just like a match.
     
  7. Wow. I love what vicious said abt inviting spirits to be seen. Or alon those lines. This fits in so well with my life on a daily basis.......

    Abit of background. I live in a very multicultural asian country. Many chridtians, muslins, buddhists and taoists here. And all of these religions(not so much the christians) talk abt spirits and supernatural or religious forces on a daily basis. So every week you see or hear something from your friends that is supernatural. I dont even know where to start, but christ some of the things i have experienced and seen are rly beyond belief.

    I can start by telling just what happene the other day when i was walking home from the bus stop after work. As i said, many taoists here. The whole country is currently celebrating hungry ghost month. If you all r wondering what that is its basically one month of the year where the gates to hell open, and all spiritd are free to walk the earth and do what they want. So wat ppl will do is they will burn paper money or ghost money, and leave incencse sticks ard and lravr food offerings and stuff almost everywhere. (just wanna make a note tat its wonderful livin in a culture like this. Nobody is an elitist when it comes to religion and everybody is free to practice their own beliefs without being quesrioned or shunned or discriminated or whatever. Its a part of our lives and its just wonderul to see that ppl still get alobg regardlesd of this type of shit.) but anyway, i was walking home from the bus stop and usually i dont really think abt the food offerings they leave. But this one place i passed by caught my attention for some reason. I didnt touch anything but just kinda lookwd at the stuff that was being offered and things like that(most o these food offerings are special ghost offerings, so they are actually quite intriguing tbh) but as i was squatting down i saw a business guy walking down the lane. Pretty well dressed chill young guy. Would hve guessed abt mid twrnties. But was jst something weird abt him. He came up to me and kinda said in a harsh voice "you shuldnt touch any of that. Its for the ghosts." (another thing is thAt i am european. And i live in a pretty ghetto area In most caucasians eyes that stay here as most of them are hot shot expats with huge condos and expensive cars and shit, but i live here with my local fiancee Nd we get by quite well. But still, not many caucasians ard this area here.) i honestly thot he was just being friendly at first in case i "didnt know" or something. I just said yeah dude, sorry man and continued home. So i got home and just quickly changed my shirt, and wanted to run down to the store and buy smokes before my girl gets home at ard 6. So i walk down the stairs and head to the store. The way it takes passes the place where the guy talked to me. He was still there. But he was crouched over the food offerings. And he was munching away quite happily. But i think he felt my presence or something, but he turned and looked overhis shoulder. But his eyes were black. And he just grinned at me. Kinda scared me up a bit. And thr place thst i live in has a lot of tall apartment buildings, and suicides happen every now and then. So u nvr know eh???


    Wow thst took some time to write on my iphone:p sorry for all the typos. I have far fingers and i am too lazy to correct all my mistakes. But if anybody wants to know anymore, then let me know. Dont even know where to start......
     
  8. I would shit brix if i had seen that. Any other experiences or stories you have heard?
     
  9. A cpl weeks ago my girl got a new phone. She was lyong on the bed in the evening with me and we were just playing ard with it and learnong how it works and all. She wanted to take a picture and see if the camera was any good. So from the bed she took a pic of our wardrobe. There was a little girl sittibg on top of it:/ and also a quite often if you wake up in the night anf have to go to the bathroom or sonething for some reason the fan is always on in the livin room. Sometimes the tv as well. The fan is always angled at one specific spot on tje couch. And when u switchcit off u always hear somebody sigh i the kind of "i am sitting herr dam it" type of tone.....
     
  10. I have chills reading that...
     
  11. I have never seen anything. But my mom said when I was a baby she seen a man dressed in all black with red painted face staring at me in my crib a few times and he would vanish when see came closer to him, and that one time she took me out of my crib and put me in her bed with her. She said when she did that some thing hit her in the face with a pillow.
     
  12. #12 Peter Griffin, Sep 7, 2011
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    "The bible and other grimours don't deny other gods, it just says not to worship them." Im pretty sure the Bible even says that Satan is the god of this world.

    OP I'm curious to know what you think of these verses from the Bible

    1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

    2 Corinthians 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

    Just wondering mostly if you can compare the bolded part to any experiences you have had maybe?

    edit: and thanks for the story, I love hearing about paranormal stuff.
     
  13. Back home in sweden my mom owns a horse farm as she is a breeder. The lanf that we live on is quite old and the barn itself is abt 400 yrs old. But ofcourse it been fixed up a fair amount. Also the land that we own is pretty big. And the foindations of the house that originally stood there whivh is also 400 yrs old also still exist not too far from the bew house that we live in. My family believes that its haunted by the old man that used to live on the farm and who the farm is actually namef after. So many things hve happened there. But he isnt a bad ghost. He likes to help out. Ofcourse it freaks us out. But you know. We still think he wants to help. I shall give an example of what happened last xmas. After most of the snow storms had ceased one day when i was home visiting i realised that the fences were broken at a certain area where the horses could easily get hurt if they get access to. But somebody had rewired the fence that night. You culd tell it was done in a rush to make sure the horses didnt have time to get there, but the part tat was freaky was tat there was abt a meter of snow, and there were no foot prints at all in the snow. It had not snowed tat night and nobody else lives anywhere near so it wasnt the neighbours(we also asked them) and we do check the fences everydsy to make sure the horses are safe. So this happened over night. Also its a very tough lifestyle. You hve to get up damn early everyday and feed the horses and u get pretty tired doing. And some days it felt extra heavy. And on these types of days the old ghost would always switch on the radio as if he vuld sense you were extra tired or needed some ebtertsinment. And even if you switch it off, it will switch right back on bt 2 or 3 minutes later. It has gine to the extent where my mother has literally said "can you pkease stop it?? I really need to get this done and i aint in the mood." and it works. Coz it stops. U just gotta b nice. But he is naughty sometimes, or we dunno if its another ghost, but weird tjings do happen. I thin its another ghost. Coz the old man only ever tries to help out. Butthis other ghost has caused a lot of trouble. Sometimes when you are cleaning the stables the ghost will start fidgeting with your hair. And when you are using tools he or she will put them back. And it aint small tools like hammers or a screwdriver tst u culd easily misplace. But its things like wheel barrows, pitchforks and rakes. Tats pretty freaky. Especially of u are usibg em. Put it aside for 2 minutes an then its gone when u reach for it again...then also this other ghost likes to open the fences for the horses. The fences are electrified so tje horses know to. Keep their distance, and if they ever do get near or run through there a
    Is a loooooot of damage. In the house itself, its also quite old. But only abt 80 or 90 yrs old. Its very easy to hear things as its so old. You often hear footsteps in the house wherr nobody is, and sometimes you hear an old man humming away at a tune over and over again. (some more background for the next story, its a huge house and we have close to 20 rooms, an my mom and my step dad only sleep together on the weekends as they both snore quite alot, and they have a tendency of waking each other up. And once they wake up, they cant fall back asleep for a cpl hours. So they sleep in 2 different rooms. My mothers room is directly undereath her husbands, so she hears him do almost everyting from there.) a cpl of yrs ago i was tucking my mom in to bed as she wasnt feeling so good. I love my mom so very much, so i always do tat little extra to make sure she is alright. I had made her a nice cup of tea an was just spending a few minutes making her laugh by telling a stupid story while he was lying in bed. I shuld also point out that we have 4 dogs. Her husband was also travelling on this day. Soooo as i wassaying, she was in bed and i was sitting in a chair next to her. We heard snoring, not loud but very sofly. Some of our dogs snore, so our first reaction was giggle at how cute our dogs are for snoring. But i turned ard to find which dog it was but there were no dogs there. In fact as it was sunmer they wuld spend all day and night in the dog pen as they would fight to get to be outside rather than inside. So i told her. And we both kinda go ohhhh....... And we listen a bit closer and the snoring is coming from her husbands room. Above us. And since we were the inly 2 in the house, well yeah.... U get the point. But its ok. Coz whenever anything happens there u nvr feel threatened or rly scared. Its more the whole lost for words, shrug your shoulders and then move on as if nothing. The stories from thatchouse are countless. And a lot of ppl have seen and experienced things there too..... Alot of ppl tat dont believe in this kinda stuff, like Y half sister. She thinks its all dumb and stupid. But the first night she ever slept there she woke up coz she felt like somebody was watching here, and ofcourse there was an old man standing in the room. Watching her and smiling and waving at her....... She just went back o bed, and its weird that she still doesnt believe in the paranormal:/
     
  14. #14 Vicious, Sep 7, 2011
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    I'm not to sure about the Corinthians parts but the bible says " Revelation12:9: So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him." 1 John 5:19: "We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one."" In demonology it's said Lucifer is the one of the four crown princes or kings of hell and
    and control the east "air" and is ruler of greed. Satan is the ruler of wrath.

    I'm not really sure about Lucifer and Satan being the same entity. Satan was a name given to the accuser. It use to mean anyone who tempts, it's possible that the snake that tempted Eve and the one who tempted Jesus was not Lucifer but the term Satan became synonymous with Lucifer because he rebelled against god.

    "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light."Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

    As I said demons are troll but in demonology there are different classes of demons, each with different agenda. Some may try to deceive you and most are righteous (not in the best sense but more self proclaimed) but for the most part demons of higher stature and the original fallen angels have a form of pride. I'm not to sure about lesser demons but all of the demons mentioned in the Lesser Key of Solomon are crowned or atleast the level of count. These are the demons such as Astaroth, Bael and Belzebuth. Though I'm not sure which one is which, I know many are saint like in the aspect that they have titles like "protector of travelers", "opener of doors", "bringer of intellect" and will offer their services with the use of sigils and invitation, just like angels, but both have different set of standards and each is dealt with differently. I will say now I have never invoked anything out of fear of my spiritual health, but its something worth having knowledge on, wither you believe or it myth.

    This seemed very appropriate to what I am saying about demonology.

    "To deny that there are sorrows and rewards after death is to deny the existence of God; since God exists, it must be necessarily so. But only God could know the punishments meted out to the guilty, or the place that holds them. All the catalogues made herebefore are only the fruit of a more or less disordered imagination. Theologians should leave to the poets the depiction of Hell, and not themselves seek to frighten minds with hideous paintings and appalling books" - Collin de Plancy

    Again, I don't have a specialty but if i had to say I had one demonology wouldn't be it, I just find it very intresting in a way one would mythology, except this one applies to a religion more close to home. If I had to say I peruse knowledge of the astral and higher levels of intelligence and enlightenment, the kind that cannot be formed into words. I have seen it but not grasped it. If I had to say it's similar to a moment of clarity and understand some of you may have had while tripping but could not bring it to words or lost understanding of it.

    We see these monoliths and ancient structures we say have no way to have been built and people jokingly or seriously post ancient aliens. I would believe they were constructed with lost intelligence that may still exist in small groups (go crazy conspiracy and Illuminati theorist here). I would believe they were constructed by magic or other means such as being intune with waves before aliens.

    Hell, maybe Aliens are ancient humans and we are new a start who have forgotten our origins. I don't know why people assume all aliens are not humanoid or we are the only humans.
     
  15. #15 Vicious, Sep 7, 2011
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    I'd very much like to get a Ouija board, I have already invited spirits into my life but I'm not to sure if I want to have them in my home, maybe once I learn more about barriers or ever happen to get some friends who have this interest. Rereading the shit I've said makes me sound like a nutjob, I couldn't imagine what my friends would think.

    As a psychology major a part of me believes some of these things can be explained with the power of the mind, such as extreme meditation, but that is our reality, but really how powerful is our mind when we up it processing and the percentage that we use, however our reality doesn't apply to other planes and understand not all can be explained with science. There are things we do not understand but are explained through ritual and ancient belief that have made more sense to the masses than science. When you have that many people unconditionally believing what is reality, they may have been simply more in tune with the astral or other planes that are now forgotten.

    Psychology on magic

    Psychological theories treat magic as a personal phenomenon intended to meet individual needs, as opposed to a social phenomenon serving a collective purpose. The explanatory power of magic should not be underestimated, however. Both in the past and in the modern world magical belief systems can provide explanations for otherwise difficult or impossible to understand phenomena while providing a spiritual and metaphysical grounding for the individual. Furthermore, as both Brian Feltham and Scott E. Hendrix argue, magical beliefs need not represent a form of irrationality, nor should they be viewed as incompatible with modern views of the world. - Cultural and Historical Studies in Magic
     
  16. Do not fuck with Ouija boards!!!
     
  17. I said I want one, when it comes down to it I'm probably going to pussy out. If I did get one though I would get a real one and not a hazbro one. Also I wouldn't fuck with it. I don't "fuck" with anything occult, I respect it and use it with respect. Rather than a one liner I'd like to hear more what you know or have experienced with them.
     
  18. Sorry, I was going to type longer, but I didn't have time. Now I do. Anyway, A good friend a while back bought one and performed some kind of faux ceremony with candles and the like. Well, he didn't come to high school for two days. When he turned, he had these really deep set eyes with a type of anger in them, he'd obviously seen shit. It's not batshit insane like your typical Ouija board story, but something was definitely fucked up. He hasn't killed himself or anything, but it's definitely a warning.
    Be careful, stay cool. I think Mushroom knows alot about this stuff.
     
  19. I wouldnt say I know a lot about it but my friend got possessed when we tried ouija

    It was shit straight out of the exorcist.
     
  20. Vicious do you ever watch Paranormal State? Its a team of investigators from Penn State college that go around the country and look into all kinds of reports of ghosts or demons or whatever. Im not sure if they are still making new episodes but its probably my favorite show ever haha
     

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