I am sure a whole lot of apologistst will come up with this and that reasons for why it might be quite ok to strike terror into little old Norway and Oslo, the capitol. As if the bomb-action was not enough, ironically they decided to kill a lot of youth at the social-democratic annual youth camp. I've been to a few of those, only slightly more to the left, the socialist youth summer camps. They are all about free palestine this, and Israel is bad that. Just a few days ago, our foreign minister was met with those very youths demonstrating for a socalled free palestine, and embargo of Israel. Because Israel is bad, m'kay, and muslim countries are the shining lights of freedom... As if any arab anywhere in the middle east is more free than if actually an Israeli citizen, but I digress. I am speechless. Who could do such a thing? And yet, I know exactly who would. And who have already taken responsibility. What is left really, is for the good old press to get their heads out of their little favourite piece of sand, and actually recognize that islam is not a great fan of tolerant Norway. Never was, never will be, and still we allow muslims to settle here as if they were as trouble free as your average buddhist or hindu. Still got a few days to let all the chips fall as they may. To figure out who did what when. I may even fall to preconcieved conclutions as I write this. And if so, my bad. But such terror do not fall within normal european extremist grievances. Not in the slightest. The IRA did blow up shit, but did also notify of where and when, to avoid civilian casualities. As did the ETA, except when targeting spanish officials. This smell of islamic terror, and indeed already, islamists do take credit. It will not do them much good though. A bang here, and a bang there might make them feel good. But the other side of that coin, is indiscriminate, and very forcefull. Just saying. And we did not start it.
Fuck off. Our government, despite its flaws would not blow up their own offices and kill a lot of youth from their own organisation. So again. Fuck off. Really, fuck the fuck off. You fucking fucker. They killed upto 80 kids at a youth camp, a social democratic party annual summer youth camp. I may not agree with them, but they are entirely entitled to have some fun at a party political, as I did back when, and that without fuckers gunning them down. For fucks sake. So take your little conspiracy theories and stuff them up your tight little anus where they belong. You fucker. People died for fucks sake. Kids. Politically engaged and active little politicians to be. Wrong party perhaps, but still. Don't you even try to belittle that atrocity with your fucking fucked up conspiracy shit. Wow, dude... chill with the disrespect and name-calling, please. -JD
I would assume you have some evidence to the contrary? False flags have been used in history for a long time. Strangely I dont see them leaving anytime soon. Sorry, sad fact. Overall, with such name calling, posts like yours will see the end to the political forum. Is a few islam people representative of the whole society? Such blanket hatred can eventually lead to genocides. Christian terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I can think of a few examples of other intolerant religions that have gone to far besides muslim. Doesnt make it right, but doesnt justify throwing fuel on the fire and making them hate you MORE.
All I said was maybe. Don't be mad, bro. I understand your apathy towards kids. I know it's fucked up as well. But you know, based on my research and observation, gov does fuck things up. In addition, it wouldn't be your gov but it could be other nation's gov that is doing the bidding. Gov always fuck with other gov and it doesn't harm the gov, just the proletarians.
So, not all Muslims are terrorists, but all tragedies are probably false flags. Makes sense. I take it you have some pretty strong evidence and not just a hunch, right? What am I saying, of course you do. But seriously, Zylark, hope you guys get everything sorted out and are able to find out what really happened. What a senseless thing to target kids, especially on an island where they really had no escape.
Really. What western terror organisation have ever targeted innocent civilians? You had the radical leftist of the RAF, but even they did not murder kids, and in any case was more into the hostage business than killing business. The fuckers you fucker are trying to make a case for, killed in cold blood. Kids. Kids at a summercamp. Don't even try to to make a case for this beeing some government job. How fucked up do you think our little Norwegian goverment is? For fucks sake, our government was a target with this terror. They blew up the headquarters of the government. The buildings where they work. And killed the kids of their youth organisation. Seriously, get off your paranoid delusional little pony. The world is simpler than you might think. And one of the simpler facts is; dogmatic fanatics will kill kids. And we are not to blame for that. edit: not directed at skydog.
I think its a little early to claim false flag, you may not be able to fully bite the bait on it being terrorists, but that does not mean you have to speculate that its Government run right off the bat. European targets are pretty easy for extremists, and unless something is uncovered that seems suspicious, you don't have to be a sheep to believe the surface story right now.
Here ya go Norway ripped by Oslo bomb, youth camp shootings - Yahoo! News Good job assuming Muslims/Arabs did this, and that Israel deserves to be recognized as a State. The basic jist of how Israel came to be... 1. The Jewish people said it was their land, their right. God said so! Right? 2. In the early 20th century Jewish people began to move to that region, and there were already Jewish people living in other parts of the Middle East (see: Iran's proud but discreet Jews ). Then the Jewish people began to be persecuted for being Jewish in Europe, Russia, etc,... and this is before WWII was a glint in Adolf Hitlers evil eyes 3. Once the world began to hate on Jews more moved to the Holy lands, and surrounding areas. 4. WWII happens and the Jewish people need home. What were the Arabs doing? 1. The area Israel and Palestine are located was once controlled by the Ottoman Empire. The British went to war with the Ottoman Empire and defeated it, taking the land for their own. 2. The Arabs who lived there lived under the British and the surrounding countries (see: Egypt) leaders (kings etc) were corrupted by and puppets for the Western Gov't (see: Britain) 3. The Arabs wanted to declare their own state and went to war with British and then the 1948 Palestine War began. 4. Jews vs Arabs 5. Britain gives control of the area to the United Nations 6. an estimated 700,000 Arabs were "displaced". Displaced means they were lied too (in order to leave. See: corrupt Kings), killed, or chased out. Their homes they lived in, the towns they knew and loved were destroyed. They weren't even given some sort of resistiution. Basically, the world said they can go fuck themselves, and from that Nakba Day is born (which is celebrated every year, and this year the Israeli army killed Men, Women, and Children, and injuring scores of others during their protest). 7. The Arabs army were not as well trained as the Jewish army. Arab Forces 8. Yishuv (Jewish for the layman ) forces 9. Israel is victorious in the war. They declare themselves a State and the United Nations recognizes them. How was Israel created? And now we have "terrorism", and many Arabs who, rightfully so, hate the West. Anyone can be a terrorist, even a Jew Don't believe me? You can first look at Wikipedia, BBC websites, or the many of websites that is the internet, the library, history books, etc. Do you want to read, and participate in another online discussion about this Norway tragedy? http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread731309/pg1 From ATS I learn that Norway was planning on pulling out of the NATO war with Libya http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903554904576457792133463606.html?mod=googlenews_wsj & then http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4180673.ece & Al Jazeera now saying Oslo police saying it was a bomb & then http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/oslo-...tory?id=14134197&rss=rss-wabc-snippet-7091254 &then http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8655175/Oslo-explosion-live-coverage.html & then Several Norwegian news outlets reporting there may be 2 other bombs around Oslo that did not explode, according to police; & then http://www.breakingnews.com/
The main suspect is a blue eyed, Blonde haired Norweigian, and he doesn't seem to be connected to any terrorist organizations. Hmmmmm...
16 people dead and this was the worst since WW2? damn norway is a safe place to live compared to teh USA.
See, read what I said, when I said they are used throughout history, I never said this, nor claimed any specific incident in which I believed a false flag occurred. Why would you assume that I meant that all tragedies are false flags? I simply asked for evidence for the contrary on the idea of false flags? Funny that. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.........
I may have been a bit flustered by gizmoblust, making me fire on a few engines more than strictly necessary. I am not a big fan of conspiracy-drivel, less so when it hits close to home. Offending me and my country to no end. But even so, one need to give a few days for the dust to settle so to speak. What is done is an atrocety, no matter who is responsible, and for whatever reason. That much I am sure we can all agree upon. Much will be revealed during the next few days I suppose, so we will get more to go on. Everything until then is only speculation. But even so, suggesting some conspiracy theory regarding _any_ western government is behind this, much less the social-democratic Norwegian one, warrant only one response, and that is to take ones dick in ones hand and shove it up ones poop-hole. Seriously. Goddamned conspiracy fuckers.
Right? Governments wouldn't try to harm their own people, especially European socialist ones. That's just crazy talk...
How am I offending your country? I was just expressing my opinion. Your reading comprehension is terribad. All I said was maybe. See that in bold. Like you said, it's all in speculations. Your hatred against Muslim really shines. Seriously, lighten up your load and stop being mad over the interwebs. Edited: Conspiracy=opinion.