Posted 25 June 2011 - 04:00 AM
This is my methode WORKS GREAT & IT ORGANIC and this is what I'm using instead of clonex solution (not the gel for dipping clones)
2 oz. of organic aloe vera juice (aka gel or extract - talk about disorganized!)
1/2 oz. of fulvic acid
3/4 tsp. of powdered seaweed extract
These are the amounts for 1 gallon of water.
This is from a guy who is an orgaic geniuss imho
and this a copy of what I asked him about this recipe and then his response
Originally Posted by organicfreak
yea I use root riot cubes
i dip clone in clonex rooting gel and keep under a dome and on top of a heating pad 80 degrees roughly..
HAVE EXCELLENT RESULTS THOUGH... 80 - 90% succes rate in 10 -14 days...
My concern is how expensive the clonex solution that you feed with is..(not the dip)
I'm a diy nute guy and make everything myself,or buy in bulk and mix my own like kelp and fulvic and myco's...
clonex usage is like 40ml gal olivas 60ml gal WAY TO EXPENSIVE. for base nutes Imho
I usually feed every 48 hrs by dipping root cubes in clonex solution 300ppms 1/4 tsp b1(I bought powder form of thyamin fucking pills are a bitch to crush) and a 1/2tsp of my mix which is humic,fulvic,aminos acids,kelp and endo, excto, bacteria, tricherma
was thinking of using ur mix plus b1 every 48 hrs for a dip then I pull them out,so there not sitting in it SEEMS TO WORK NICELY..
Whats your opion friend?
The aloe vera, silica, fulvic acid (or humic acid), seaweed/kelp, etc. can (and probably should) replace the Clonex Clone Solution.
Here's what the Clonex product contains according to the label:
Total Nigrogen (N) - 1%
0.05% - Ammoniacal Nitrogen
0.95% Nitrate Nitrogen
1% Soluble Potash (K2O)
Derived from calcium nitrate, potassium nitrate, phosphoric acid, potassium sulfate and ammonium nitrate.
Pretty cheap and mediocre ingredients, IMHO. It should cost about $5.00 per quart/liter. If that.
Here's what you're getting in the mix that Stankie referenced which costs very little and has far more uses than simply moving the rooted cutting to full root development.
Aloe Vera - Salicylic acid (this is the same compound found in Willow shoots which has been used as a rooting compound for at least 100 years), 73 elements including Phosphorus, Potassium, Nitrogen, etc.
Seaweed/Kelp - Besides the full and total macro and micro nutrient profile in seaweed/kelp you also have Indolyl-Acetic Acid (IAA) which is found in many/most rooting products. You also have the full Vitamin B complex in kelp as well as Vitamin C, Vitamin E, auxins (plant hormontes) and all of the other things that you're aware of which is why you're using this amendment in the first place.
Silica - prevents anaerobic fungi from causing problems at all stages of a plant's development.
Fulvic/Humic Acid - 'nuff said.
So here's how I use the root cubes like you're using (BTW - all of these type of products come from a single factory in Springfield, Oregon. They're made from by-products from the timber/wood industry so buy price).
Take your cuttings and place them in this solution and they can sit for as long as you need.
Since you've been using the root cubes you know what the hydration level should be. Take the cubes and soak them in the mixture for 15 minutes or so. Then squeeze out enough of the solution to return to your preferred hydration level.
Take some of the Clonex Rooting Gel (about 1 tsp. or so) and add 1/8th tsp. of endomycorrhizal powder. Mix well.
This will inoculate the roots as soon as they start to develop. It will not make the cuttings root faster. It will not increase root mass. It will not save 3rd World Countries. What it will do is take care of the inoculation process as early as possible and also saves you big money vs. using processes which use far more powder with little to show for it.
Do your process with one exception. Take the solution and put it into a condiment bottle (like the plastic ketchup or mustard ones) and use that to water the cubes as needed. Between the rooting compounds in the aloe vera and seaweed you have the full range of rooting compounds used in horticulture, i.e. IAA, IBA, NAA and Salicylic acid.
This mix is also good for general plant maintenance during veg and flower. I apply it 1x per week to the soil and 1x as a foliar spray.
One thing you should consider about this mix - after mixing you must refrigerate it because of the Benzoic acid it contains from the aloe vera. It will ferment (easily) which can cause problems for you.