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Marijuana bringing out Schizophrenia?

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by Jadd, Jun 23, 2011.

  1. #1 Jadd, Jun 23, 2011
    So I'm kind of worried for my friend. He has a family history of mental illness and his uncle suffers from schizophrenia. While he is high he acts quite weird, being extremely paranoid, hearing noises, delusions (he makes shit up and when you deny it he becomes defensive about it), and he has told me that ever since he smoked he can do this thing where he just says random gibberish that rhymes. I think he also links this gibberish to real meanings and all that (I've looked this up, I think this is considered word salad). I'm very worried for him, we've been smoking for over a year now, almost every week, once a week. Will stopping the usage, stop these problems? Or are these just regular things that people do while high? Thanks.

    EDIT: I've continued to research the link between marijuana and schizophrenia. He is only 16, and I have read that using marijuana during teen years greatly increases the chance to bring on schiz.
     
  2. #2 pearl75, Jun 23, 2011
    This is from the sticky posted at the top of this very forum. Thanks, again, to GrannyStormCrow for providing us with this wealth of information.

    SCHIZOPHRENIA/ MENTAL DISORDERS

    radical notion (letter - 1974)
    The Paraprofessional -- Lambert 1 (11): 16 -- Schizophrenia Bulletin

    Study Shows Long Term Marijuana Users Healthy (news - 1994)
    Erowid Cannabis Vault : Health Effects : Study #3

    Recipe For Trouble (anecdotal/ news - 2002)
    Recipe For Trouble - 48 Hours - CBS News

    Cannabis may treat psychiatric disorders (news - 2002)
    Cannabis may treat psychiatric disorders | Chemistry and Industry | Find Articles at BNET

    Cannabis and the brain. (full - 2003)
    Cannabis and the brain -- Iversen 126 (6): 1252 -- Brain

    Haloperidol, but not clozapine, produces dramatic catalepsy in delta9-THC-treated rats: possible clinical implications. (full - 2003)
    Haloperidol, but not clozapine, produces dramatic catalepsy in

    Cannabis as a psychotropic medication (letter - 2004)
    Cannabis as a psychotropic medication -- Chaturvedi 185 (1): 78 -- The British Journal of Psychiatry

    Aetiology - Review: current evidence does not show a strong causal relation between the use of cannabis in young people and psychosocial harm
    (abst - 2004) http://www.library.nhs.uk/mentalHeal...4106&tabID=289

    Cannabis does not induce schizophrenia, Dutch scientists say (news - 2004)
    Cannabis does not induce schizophrenia, Dutch scientists say

    Symptoms of schizotypy precede cannabis use. (full - 2005) http://socialsciences.people.hawaii....0and%20SPD.pdf

    Cannabidiol as an antipsychotic. A double-blind, controlled clinical trial on cannabidiol vs. amisulpride in acute schizophrenia. (abst - 2005)
    Clinical Studies and Case Reports

    Cannabis and schizophrenia link blurs further (news - 2005)
    Cannabis and schizophrenia link blurs further - health - 16 April 2005 - New Scientist

    Chemicals in Cannabis may help mentally ill (news - 2005)
    Chemicals in Cannabis may help mentally ill

    Cannabidiol, a Cannabis sativa constituent, as an antipsychotic drug.
    (full - 2006)
    Brazilian Journal of Medical and Biological Research - Cannabidiol, a Cannabis sativa constituent, as an antipsychotic drug

    The Mental Health Risks of Adolescent Cannabis Use (full - 2006)
    The Mental Health Risks of Adolescent Cannabis Use

    Cannabis and psychosis (letter - 2006)
    Cannabis and psychosis

    An Experimental Study of Catechol-O-Methyltransferase Val(158)Met Moderation of Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol-Induced Effects on Psychosis and Cognition. (abst - 2006)
    Unbound MEDLINE | An experimental study of catechol-o-methyltransferase Val158Met moderation of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol-induced effects on psychosis and cognition. Journal article abstract

    Increased cannabinoid receptor density in the posterior cingulate cortex in schizophrenia. (needs free registration) (abst - 2006)
    http://www.medscape.com/medline/abstract/16710682

    No Increased Schizophrenia Risk With Use Of Cannabis (news - 2006)
    No Increased Schizophrenia Risk With Use Of Cannabis: The Hempire - [cannabis, legalise]

    Cannabis use does not cause schizophrenia (news - 2006)
    Cannabis use does not cause schizophrenia -Schizophrenia News-

    Cannabis is a First-Line Treatment for Childhood Mental Disorders
    (news - 2006)
    Dr. Tod Mikuriya: Cannabis as a Frontline Treatment for Childhood Mental Disorders

    Reefer Madness Refuted (letter - 2007)
    CMAJ -- eLetters for Kopala, 177 (8) 988

    Anandamide levels in cerebrospinal fluid of first-episode schizophrenic patients: Impact of cannabis use. (abst - 2007)
    Unbound MEDLINE | Anandamide levels in cerebrospinal fluid of first-episode schizophrenic patients: Impact of cannabis use. Journal article abstract

    Cannabinoids and psychosis. (abst - 2007)
    Cannabinoids and psychosis. [Int Rev Neurobiol. 2007] - PubMed result

    Effects of cannabidiol on schizophrenia-like symptoms in people who use cannabis (full - 2008)
    Effects of cannabidiol on schizophrenia-like symptoms in people who use cannabis -- Morgan and Curran 192 (4): 306 -- The British Journal of Psychiatry

    Maternal tobacco, cannabis and alcohol use during pregnancy and risk of adolescent psychotic symptoms in offspring. (full - 2009)
    Maternal tobacco, cannabis and alcohol use during pregnancy and risk of adolescent psychotic symptoms in offspring -- Zammit et al. 195 (4): 294 -- The British Journal of Psychiatry

    Synthetic delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (dronabinol) can improve the symptoms of schizophrenia. (abst - 2009)
    Unbound MEDLINE | Synthetic delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (dronabinol) can improve the symptoms of schizophrenia. Journal article abstract

    Parasitic brain infection, endocannabinoids, and schizophrenia. (abst - 2009)
    Unbound MEDLINE | Parasitic brain infection, endocannabinoids, and schizophrenia. Journal article abstract

    The role of cannabis in cognitive functioning of patients with schizophrenia.
    (abst - 2009)
    Unbound MEDLINE | The role of cannabis in cognitive functioning of patients with schizophrenia. Journal article abstract

    Cannabis use and deliberate self-harm in adolescence: a comparative analysis of associations in England and Norway. (abst - 2009)
    Unbound MEDLINE | Cannabis use and deliberate self-harm in adolescence: a comparative analysis of associations in England and Norway. Journal article abstract

    Cannabis and suicide: longitudinal study. (abst - 2009)
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    Opposite relationships between cannabis use and neurocognitive functioning in bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. (abst - 2009)
    Unbound MEDLINE | Opposite relationships between cannabis use and neurocognitive functioning in bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. Journal article

    Can recreational doses of THC produce significant dopamine release in the human striatum? (abst - 2009)
    Unbound MEDLINE | Can recreational doses of THC produce significant dopamine release in the human striatum? Journal article

    If cannabis caused schizophrenia-how many cannabis users may need to be prevented in order to prevent one case of schizophrenia? England and Wales calculations. (abst - 2009)
    Unbound MEDLINE | If cannabis caused schizophrenia--how many cannabis users may need to be prevented in order to prevent one case of schizophrenia? England and Wales calculations. Journal article

    Minimal Relationship Between Cannabis And Schizophrenia Or Psychosis, Suggested By New Study (news - 2009)
    Minimal Relationship Between Cannabis And Schizophrenia Or Psychosis, Suggested By New Study

    Schizophrenia link to cannabis denied (news - 2009)
    http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk...l/article.html

    Maternal Marijuana use not Associated with Psychotic Symptoms , but Alcohol is (news -2009)
    Maternal Marijuana use not Associated with Psychotic Symptoms , but Alcohol is

    Minimal Relationship Between Cannabis And Schizophrenia Or Psychosis, Suggested By New Study (news - 2009)
    Minimal Relationship Between Cannabis And Schizophrenia Or Psychosis, Suggested By New Study
     
  3. #3 cball, Jun 24, 2011
    nothing pointing at mj being a cause, but lots pointing at it being used to 'self medicate'.

    if he is worse with it, then he needs to abstain...;)
    (would suck though...mj helps people in so many ways..):(
     
  4. #4 arewenotmen, Jun 24, 2011
    Yeah, this isn't exactly the place to ask if you have questions about anything possibly bad about marijuana. Alot of amateur scientists with an agenda here.

    Not that I believe there is a connection, but I don't know. And I'm perfectly fine with admitting that and taking the chance for myself. I don't need to get online and reassure myself that I'm perfectly safe.
     
  5. #5 Footbag, Jun 24, 2011
    It's probably whatever else he's on..
     
  6. #6 E4u2H8J9, Jun 25, 2011
    Very obvious sign of schizophrenia. You don't need to post on a forum full of stoners to know that he needs help.

    Ask him to consult a doctor or therapist for a real evaluation. Schizophrenia treatment has a much higher success rate the earlier you notice it.
     
  7. #7 tharedhead, Jun 25, 2011
    Eating wheat during the teen age years is far more dangerous, from a statistical viewpoint.

    Celiac Disease Is A Risk Factor For Schizophrenia

    There could be any number of serious and potentially fatal organic causes for his confabulation and logorrhea, which require exploration by a physician.


    Confabulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logorrhea_(psychology)

    Brain lesions and their symptoms
    http://www.unites.uqam.ca/cnc/psy7123/PsychiatrieSticky.pdf
     
  8. #8 DogRobinson, Jun 25, 2011
    I think weed can possibly make your schizophrenia surface sooner than it would have naturally. Either way, How it happens is irrelevant. It's something you either have to live with, Or just get so doped up on prescription meds till you feel empty.
     

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