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The Official "President Obama is a Corporatist War Monger" Thread

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 10:19 PM

I searched for another thread that could be relevant to this topic but I didn't find one.

This would be a place to share thoughts, articles, and information regarding Corporatism and War Mongering specifically relating to President Obama and his Administration.

Something to get the thread started:

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Truthdig - The Obama Deception: Why Cornel West Went Ballistic

Obama is “a black mascot of Wall Street oligarchs and a black puppet of corporate plutocrats. And now he has become head of the American killing machine and is proud of it.”


Lupe Fiasco Calls Obama a "Terrorist" | NBC Chicago

"The biggest terrorist is Obama, in the United States of America. So, for me, it's like...I'm trying to fight the terrorism that's actually causing the other forms of terrorism. You know, the root cause of terrorism is the stuff the U.S. government allows to happen. The foreign policies that we have in place in different countries that inspire people to become terrorists."

http://forum.grassci...ter-prison.html


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2zo3KHARl8]YouTube - Pres. Obama closes Guantanamo Bay and ends inhumane treatment of detainees[/ame]

^ Still open BTW. Maybe he will campaign to close Gitmo and Bagram for 2012...


FactCheck: Obama Promised to repeal Patriot Act, then voted for it. (Jan 2008)

Who Owns The Media?

Ownership Chart: The Big Six | Free Press

#1 - General Electric, aka GE.

UAV drone attacks murdering innocent civilians in Pakistan would classify President Obama as a war criminal. When did we declare war on Pakistan? Or anywhere else since WWII for that matter... What's even worse is that Obama's BFF manufactures the UAV's doing the murdering!

July 2010 - GE Intelligent Platforms: The UAV Company > Embedded Insider > GE Intelligent Platforms

The US Air Force's Predator UAV, for example, which has seen service over Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bosnia, Serbia, Iraq and the Yemen has a range of over 2,000 nautical miles: its endurance allows it to fly 400 nautical miles to a target, loiter overhead for 14 hours, then return to its base.


Military Aviation Systems | GE Aviation Systems

GE Aviation's Systems business is equipping militaries with the solutions needed to succeed. As a leading supplier of integrated systems and technologies for combat aircraft, military transport, helicopters, land vehicles and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), GE is enabling armed forces around the world to improve reliability and enhance operational performance. Using a legacy as a world-class leader in the industry, GE is making the future of military air and land procedures safer, stronger and more dynamic than ever before.


Announcing a New Council on Jobs and Competitiveness | The White House

This afternoon, in Schenectady, New York, President Obama will announce the President’s Council on Jobs and Competitiveness – a board to get Americans back to work and strengthen our economy that will be chaired by Jeff Immelt, the CEO and Chairman of General Electric.

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The Nation: How Is Saudi Arabia A 'Good' Tyranny? : NPR

Critics Slam Obama Administration for 'Hiding' Massive Saudi Arms Deal - ABC News

The Obama administration has quietly forged ahead with its proposal to sell $60 billion worth of fighter jets and attack helicopters to Saudi Arabia unhampered by Congress, despite questions raised in legislative inquiries and in an internal congressional report about the wisdom of the deal.


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EDITORIAL: Is Obama a war criminal yet? - Washington Times

President Obama quietly signed an executive order on Monday instituting a system for indefinitely holding terrorist detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay (Gitmo), Cuba. The administration also announced that terrorist trials by military commission would recommence.
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During the 2008 presidential campaign, then-Sen. Barack Obama harshly criticized President George W. Bush’s detainee policies. When he took office, Mr. Obama theatrically announced that he would close Gitmo in a year and find a way to give the terror detainees the full due-process rights enjoyed by American citizens.


Nader: Impeach Obama for 'war crimes' - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

Former presidential candidate Ralph Nader says President Obama should be impeached for committing "war crimes" in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The consumer advocate and former presidential candidate said in an interview that aired Friday that Obama has committed "war crimes" on the same level as President Bush.

"Why don't we say what's on the minds of many legal experts; that the Obama administration is committing war crimes and if Bush should have been impeached, Obama should be impeached," Nader said in an interview with the anti-war Democracy Now! organization.

Nader's comments came before the U.S. on Saturday launched military strikes into Libya, but they are among the toughest criticisms Obama has endured from the left.


Barack Obama Is a 'war criminal,' Ralph Nader says

"Innocents are being slaughtered, we’re creating more enemies, he’s violating international law," Nader continued. "He’s not constitutionally authorized to do what he’s doing, he’s using State secrets, he’s engaging in illegal surveillance, the CIA is running wild without any kind of circumscribed legal standards or disclosure... why don’t we say what’s on the minds of many legal experts; that the Obama administration is committing war crimes and if Bush should have been impeached, Obama should be impeached."


Rep. Amash Calls Libya Action Unconstitutional

Freshman Congressman Justin Amash (R-Mich.) claims President Obama is violating the U.S. Constitution by committing U.S. armed forces to enforce a no-fly-zone over Libya without approval from Congress, and he's got a strong witness in his corner: Senator Barack Obama.


Obama: ‘President Does Not Have Power Under Constitution to Unilaterally Authorize a Military Attack’ - CNS News

(CNSNews.com) - As a presidential candidate, Sen. Barack Obama (D.-Ill.) emphatically stated that the Constitution does not give the president the authority to unilaterally authorize a military attack unless it is needed to stop an actual or imminent attack on the United States.


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The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.

As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action.


Kent Greenfield: Obama, Libya, and Executive Power

Up until this week, I would have said that George W. Bush was the most aggressive president in modern times in exercising executive power. Now, I can honestly say President Obama is giving "W." a run for his money. This week President Obama is creating a dangerous precedent that will be cited by future presidents whenever they want to use military force without congressional oversight.


Libya Kucinich | Unconstitutional Airstrikes | The Daily Caller

Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich announced Tuesday his intention to introduce an amendment to defund what he considers the “unconstitutional” airstrikes in Libya.

Kucinich wrote in a Tuesday letter to colleagues, “the President committed the U.S. to military invention without consulting Congress, in clear subversion of Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, which gives only Congress the power to declare war.”


Questionable Obama Administration officials:

National Security Advisor Tom Donilon - ABC News

President Obama's new National Security Advisor spent the decade prior to joining the White House as a legal advisor to powerful interests including Goldman Sachs and Citigroup, and as a lobbyist for Fannie Mae, where he oversaw the mortgage giant's aggressive campaign to undermine the credibility of a probe into its accounting irregularities, according to government reports and public disclosure forms.


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David Petraeus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Robert Gates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 10:25 PM

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 11:59 PM

Sure, but why a pic of President Obama bowing down to the king of Saudi Arabia have to do with him being a corporatist? Cultural respect is one thing that helps international relationships.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 12:19 AM

Sure, but why a pic of President Obama bowing down to the king of Saudi Arabia have to do with him being a corporatist? Cultural respect is one thing that helps international relationships.


The Saudi's deserve NO respect. They have one of the worst regimes in the entire middle east.

The Saudi's and the US have had quite a corporatist and war mongering relationship since the 1970's, especially after the breakdown of the Bretton Woods agreement in Aug of 1971. Why should the dollar remain the reserve currency of the world if there is no longer a semi-gold standard backing the dollar?

King Saud succeeded to the throne on his father's death in 1953. However, by the early 1960s an intense rivalry between the King and his half-brother, Prince Faisal emerged, fueled by doubts in the royal family over Saud's competence. As a consequence, Saud was deposed in favor of Faisal in 1964. The major event of King Faisal's reign was the 1973 oil crisis, when Saudi Arabia, and the other Arab oil producers, tried to put pressure on the US to withdraw support from Israel through an oil embargo. Faisal was assassinated in 1975 by his nephew, Prince Faisal bin Musaid.

Since then they've been a puppet of ours...or we've been a puppet of theirs...who knows.

According to research by Dr. David Spiro, in 1974 the Nixon administration negotiated assurances from Saudi Arabia to price oil in dollars only, and invest their surplus oil proceeds in U.S. Treasury Bills. In return the U.S. would protect the Saudi regime.

Saudi has the largest oil supply of all OPEC countries. House of Saud and the US Government has had very close ties since the 1970's. They agreed they would never sell oil for anything other than US Dollars. Since the agreements of 1971 and 1973, OPEC oil is exclusively quoted in US dollars. This created a permanent demand for dollars on the international exchange markets.

The US in return would keep the House of Saud in power. There has been some blowback from this, obviously...

Hijackers in the September 11 attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

More recent, and corporatist related:

Prince Alwaleed, a nephew of Saudi King Abdullah and one of the richest men in the world, runs Kingdom Holding Co., a giant investment fund that owns large stakes in News Corp. and Citigroup Inc. News Corp. owns Dow Jones & Co. and the Wall Street Journal.

Citigroup received quite a bit of bailout money as they are a large shareholder of the NY Federal Reserve Bank (see pic of Tim Geithner in OP).

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 12:34 AM

Speak of the devils!

NYT: SAUDIS SPENDING $7K PER CITIZEN TO AVOID OVERTHROW OF KINGDOM... DEVELOPING...


In Saudi Arabia, Royal Funds Buy Peace for Now - The New York Times

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 01:00 AM

You posted this in another thread, but related.

Confirmed: Obama authorizes assassination of U.S. citizen - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Adm. Dennis Blair, acknowledged in Congressional testimony that the administration reserves the "right" to carry out such assassinations.

No due process is accorded. No charges or trials are necessary. No evidence is offered, nor any opportunity for him to deny these accusations (which he has done vehemently through his family).


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Obama in 08

5. Does the Constitution permit a president to detain US citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants?
No. I reject the Bush Administration's claim that the President has plenary authority under the Constitution to detain U.S. citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants.


Propoganda against Gaddafi, and pushing for intervention in Libya (from another thread)

From Waco to Libya: 18 Years of Humanitarian Mass Murder by Anthony Gregory

Other scholars have questioned Obama’s propaganda. University of Texas associate professor Alan Kuperman notes that Gaddafi "did not massacre civilians in any of the other big cities he captured – Zawiya, Misrata, Ajdabiya – which together have a population equal to Benghazi." Human Rights Watch has recently released casualty figures on Misrata that bolster his point. Kuperman writes:

Misurata’s population is roughly 400,000. In nearly two months of war, only 257 people – including combatants – have died there. Of the 949 wounded, only 22 – less than 3 percent – are women. If Khadafy were indiscriminately targeting civilians, women would comprise about half the casualties. . .

Nor did Khadafy ever threaten civilian massacre in Benghazi, as Obama alleged. The "no mercy" warning, of March 17, targeted rebels only, as reported by The New York Times, which noted that Libya’s leader promised amnesty for those "who throw their weapons away." Khadafy even offered the rebels an escape route and open border to Egypt, to avoid a fight "to the bitter end."

Paul Miller, who served on Bush and Obama’s National Security Councils, intones that far from a genocidal clash, we are looking at a "Libyan civil war. . . between a tyrant and his cronies on one side, and a collection of tribes, movements, and ideologists (including Islamists) on the other." (Incidentally, these opponents of Gadhafi’s regime, like practically all other insurgent allies of the CIA, are far from the angelic freedom fighters that the U.S. implies. Their leader outright admits connections between his group and al-Qaeda, which has offered his rebels aid. The U.S. went to war with Iraq boasting of Saddam’s fictitious ties to al-Qaeda, a connection that was "proven" on the tortured testimony of Libyan al-Qaeda operative Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi. But unlike Saddam, America’s allies in the struggle against Gaddafi are probably tied to these Islamist killers.)

Putting aside the suspicious claims of Gaddafi’s impending civilian massacre, we might wonder how many civilians Obama and company have actually killed in Libya. The NATO governments shrug off any reports of such casualties or deny them outright. Like its predecessor the Obama administration doesn’t do body counts. What’s more, the U.S. intervention most likely "magnifies the threat to civilians in Libya, and beyond," Kuperman argues, citing the Balkans in the 1990s and showing that foreign bombs often exacerbate ethnic cleansing and civilian massacres.


Why push for intervention in Libya if it isn't about saving the people?
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 01:21 AM

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Sure, but why a pic of President Obama bowing down to the king of Saudi Arabia have to do with him being a corporatist? Cultural respect is one thing that helps international relationships.


Why am I not surprised that out of all MJU's links, you chose to comment on the one picture of Obama bowing to the Saudi prince.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 01:33 AM

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Why am I not surprised that out of all MJU's links, you chose to comment on the one picture of Obama bowing to the Saudi prince.


Its the only thing i disagree with him on, i mean using a picture of president Obama bowing to another countries leader/king as a negative. Why? There is such things called respecting a nation's cultural.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 03:19 AM

Its the only thing i disagree with him on, i mean using a picture of president Obama bowing to another countries leader/king as a negative. Why? There is such things called respecting a nation's cultural.


meh...fuck their backwards, misogynistic, superstitious culture...for that matter fuck our backwards, warmongering, imperialistic culture....

never understood people who say "we have to respect other cultures". i don't even respect my culture, why the fuck should i give two shits about theirs

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 03:38 AM

Its the only thing i disagree with him on, i mean using a picture of president Obama bowing to another countries leader/king as a negative. Why? There is such things called respecting a nation's cultural.


The headline above it talks about an arms deal with Saudi Arabia. You interpreted the bowing itself as the negative thing being portrayed (probably has something to do with all the media coverage about it), but I think the point was that Obama is on good terms with the Saudis and their fairly oppressive regime. I agree that it is a footnote and not that "negative", but people used to post pictures of Bush with the Saudis all the time as a negative. I somehow doubt you disagreed with them.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 04:36 AM

Please.

Why is Obama a corporatist war monger?

If keeping America safe from an WMD attack is your idea of a corporatist war monger then I guess we have very different points of view.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 04:40 AM

The headline above it talks about an arms deal with Saudi Arabia. You interpreted the bowing itself as the negative thing being portrayed (probably has something to do with all the media coverage about it), but I think the point was that Obama is on good terms with the Saudis and their fairly oppressive regime. I agree that it is a footnote and not that "negative", but people used to post pictures of Bush with the Saudis all the time as a negative. I somehow doubt you disagreed with them.


That picture of Obama bowing to the Saudi's, dude, they're playing a game of craps. Obama's just trying to pick up the dice, and his loot.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 04:42 AM

Please.

Why is Obama a corporatist war monger?

If keeping America safe from an WMD attack is your idea of a corporatist war monger then I guess we have very different points of view.


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You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease, 1,048 times more likely to die from a car accident, 404 times more likely to die in a fall, 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed, 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit, and 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist.

Since it's summer time, you are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack.

We certainly do have different points of view. ;)

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 04:50 AM

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You are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease, 1,048 times more likely to die from a car accident, 404 times more likely to die in a fall, 12 times more likely to die from accidental suffocation in bed, 9 times more likely to choke to death on your own vomit, and 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist.

Since it's summer time, you are 6 times more likely to die from hot weather than from a terrorist attack.

We certainly do have different points of view. ;)


Yeah, and you can thank the CIA and our military from keeping those numbers so low. Besides, if I get struck by lightning and die, it doesn't mean shit. Jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers, or a nuke going off in a major metropolis does. It only takes one time.;)

Thank you Obama for killing terrorists.

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 05:03 AM

Yeah, and you can thank the CIA and our military from keeping those numbers so low. Besides, if I get struck by lightning and die, it doesn't mean shit. Jumbo jets flying into skyscrapers, or a nuke going off in a major metropolis does. It only takes one time.;)

Thank you Obama for killing terrorists.


Even if there were a 9/11 attack EVERY THREE YEARS it still wouldn't amount to anything "significant".


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10d56dzPax0]YouTube - John Stossel - Scare Tactics[/ame]

Just hope you don't end up on the President assassination list, it's a slippery slope you believe in - the murder of humans at the order of another human, without a trial, or any defense really...scary.


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_7W0U_BuVU]YouTube - Ron Paul to Obama: Don't Assassinate American Citizens![/ame]

I think the history books will look back on to us in the same light it looked at other war mongers (Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc).

Aggressive War and Terrorism Are One and the Same! So Who Are the Real Terrorists? by Gary D. Barnett


It makes me sick that so many American blindly support killing, murdering, and war on the word of sociopaths in Washington DC. USA! USA! USA! That's patriotism, if you don't like it...get out!

Powerful end to Tom Woods Speech:


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNt276JyWo]YouTube - Tom Woods: Final 15 - Nullify Now! Los Angeles[/ame]

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 05:09 AM

Even if there were a 9/11 attack EVERY THREE YEARS it still wouldn't amount to anything "significant".


Yeah. Riiiiiiight.

Guess you haven't figured it all out yet.

Keep searching. You are good at it. Your conclusions however...

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 09:31 AM

Please.

Why is Obama a corporatist war monger?


Please, read at least one article.

Libya: Connect the dots

Paving and creating opportunities for privileged businesses to establish their presense in the economies of other countries, by use of 'humanitarian' bombs.

Yet, many sadly believe this is truly about protecting the people of Libya safe (or killing terrorists) when it is simply about establishing a US gov't friendly, or puppet, regime to do business with.

And, seldom do these military operations serve the interests of the public because they are executed with the intent of only serving the interests of a few at the expense of everyone else.

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Iran enrichment plan brazen defiance: U.S. | Reuters

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 02:01 PM

Its the only thing i disagree with him on, i mean using a picture of president Obama bowing to another countries leader/king as a negative. Why? There is such things called respecting a nation's cultural.


should Michelle Obama dress up in a Burka when they visit muslim countries.. out of respect for their culture?




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