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Albino Marijuana Genetics (White Leaves and White Buds) *Pictures*

Discussion in 'Marijuana Stash Box' started by Typewritermonky, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. #41 Wonka, May 9, 2011
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    Studying the bud pictures, and based apon what looks like the growers success in keeping an albino plant alive, more really looking at the fruit pictures. I'd venture to say that they did things correctly and acclimated nutes to keep the plant fruiting to the same level it would have without the mutation. So the stigmas look early or just right, but can't really see the trichromes let alone I have no idea what affect albinism would have on trich's if any. But overall the buds look good, aesthetic and dank.

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  2. Insanely awesome! Id love to try sum white bud,if anything just for the story it would give me.lol
     
  3. so glad I took a bio class this semester otherwise I wouldn't have understood a lot of that :p

    I think the point he was trying to make is that, sure, you can take good care of the albino bud, but by design, missing the chlorophyll and therefore as much opportunity to photosynthesize, it is less effective than a normal plant. And of course, as you pointed out, you can supplement with nutrients and quality HPS good-spectrum lights, other cycles and photosynthesis, if you were to treat two plants the exact same, one with the albino genetics, and one without, the one without would be a better yield. I guess what I'm trying to say is because of the fact that a non-albino has more chlorophyll, it has the potential to produce more THC, but as you pointed out, it all depends on how it's taken care of.

    And agree with your last part, who the hell wouldn't want to smoke some white weed? people freak at purple, imagine the reaction to white :p
     
  4. #44 BadKittySmiles, May 27, 2011
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    It is not 'albino', it is variegated, and all semantics over the definition of the word 'bleached' aside, everything I said still stands and is very factual :)

    I've had bud which was bleached by lights, and bud both fully and irregularly bleached by genetics so to speak, the aforementioned strain included, and in all circumstances, from the worst environments to the very best, the resulting bud is all very similarly and distinctly, low-quality.
    Anyone with a few decades experience has run across their fair share of bleached bud, and even with 'the best', you learn to avoid it like the plague. The same strain and genetics, non-variegated and grown side-by-side, produces a far superior medicine. Period.


    Notice that it seems everyone who has actually tried bleached bud, whether it's from a single source or a variety of sources, is well aware of the severely lowered quality.
    And notice how it's only enticing, to those who haven't?

    This is not a coincidence that needs much looking in to ;)


    It looks pretty, and again if that's what you're going for, then enjoy! They are absolutely fun plants when grown for ornamental purposes. But medicinally (edit- and recreationally), plants which produce bleached bud have little to no use, besides for those patients who simply can't handle a stronger medicine... in which case, considering the cost of production and effort for harvest, you're still best off just smoking less, of a higher quality plant.
     
  5. I think that's it brother.We have to call these variegated strains 'gay bud' or something. People may then start avoiding it ;)
     
  6. Damn yo, thats some pretty decent herb. Wish i could smoke some of that +rep:smoke:
     
  7. [quote name='"Typewritermonky"']
    This means that less ATP and NADPH can be generated by photosynthesis which means that less is fed to the calvin cycle which means less G3P (glucose) is produced which means less cannabinoids are produced by nature. By adding nutrients that allow a plant to generate ATP and NADPH through alternate cycles and aiding light and dark reactions, a solid amount of THC and CBD's can be generated with a beautiful white-and-pink ornamental look that would blow anyone's mind in person.
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    That's like saying "If I buy a crappy Honda and spend a bunch of time and money fixing it up, it might be as good as an average car new car....but it will cost more, be more work etc." It just makes no sense unless you're trying to do shady business and sell average (at best) quality weed for an inflated price. Why spend more time and money to take care of a genetically inferior plant? Unless its for the profit....
     
  8. I would like to point one thing out from this quote. Where the author downplays the value of these plants.

    I feel you're under writing the value these genes could serve. It may not be as potent, but it's expected due to lack of chlorophyll. Through breeding of the genes from the 'albino' plant, you could cross it and keep crossing it to get a desirable outcome, hopefully a more potent, whatever depending on what qualities you want. How may growers do you know toying with oriental crosses with common strains? Why not experiment with it now at home (aside from the law)? Who knows what a plant with those genes will look like after a couple years of selective breeding. Research and possible new desirable strains could be started.

    And there is going to be that population of people who may be slightly ignorant to certain facts. And I don't think that population will shrink anytime soon. Especially on an internet forum.
     

  9. You could certainly breed the bleached variegation out of the plant, to improve its quality and have normal plants again... but that's about the extent of it!


    These plants are feeble, in growth, potency and reliability, and they are good for ornamental purposes only. I am speaking from decades of professional experience in horticulture, both with and without cannabis.


    For as long as humans have been breeding plants, cannabis aside, we've known this about plants susceptible to bleaching and variegation.
    They are smaller, and less potent, they bear less fruit and fewer flowers than their non-bleached counterparts... if you're looking for less potent herb, there are PLENTY of plants with low THC that will far outproduce a plant missing integral components for growth.


    Besides looks alone, unless you're looking for a plant inferior in quality or you're planning on scamming your patients or customers who don't know any better, there's no reason to seek bleached bud.. unless you simply don't know any better!
    Selling bleached bud to a patient OR to recreational users, under the guise that it's somehow 'good meds' is incredibly deceitful.


    So yes, unfortunately it's true that ignorance is abundant, that's precisely why these plants appear enticing to some people. :) Those are the people who don't know any better!


    You won't find an honest clinic or coffee shop that accepts bleached herb, whether it's by design, or light-damage, for good reason. :)
     
  10. Just thought of a (maybe) possible benefit of "albino" plants, little to no need to cure do to lack of clorophyll (sp) ? Is'nt chlorophyll what makes uncured bud harsh and gives it a "grassy" scent/flavor?
    Idk, just a thought.
    :smoke:
     
  11. Or, instead of spending several months growing albino or marbled herb, in the hopes of achieving a smooth taste (which it unfortunately, does not always have), you could always wash your herb, or what some mistakenly call 'water curing', by soaking in RO water for a day, up to a week, to remove excess chlorophyll elements from much larger, more potent flowers. It's not ideal, but it's better than bleached herb! :)


    If you've grown and flushed it properly, as required by your feeding regimen, the bud should taste absolutely delicious the very day it's fully dried (and earlier, if you're a bit eager to sample some while it's still damp in the center :D ).. curing can mellow it out, as the terpenes are diminished, and the cannabinoids slowly decarb, and begin producing their byproducts of degradation.

    Chlorophyll mellows out during the cure as well, but neither water-washing nor growing 'albino' herb, are substitutes for feeding and flushing properly, a good cure, or proper storage methods. :cool:
     
  12. Now thats some mary jane right there. SUPER JEALOUS
     
  13. I'd pay $100 to take a hit man, i'd feel like a total badass, and it'd be worth it even if it doesn't get me high... ITS JUST THAT AWESOME
     
  14. I wonder... (as a biochemist) Assuming the obvious shortcomings: mainly decreased ability to photosynthesize aka much less energy for the plant to grow and make flowers, there is likely still merit in trying to breed 'bleached' genetics into a more potent strain. This would likely take a long time, as you are trying to create a stable plant from unstable genetics that will have to rely much more heavily on alternative and less-efficient energy-producing pathways so that it has sufficient potency that, along with it's aesthetic appeal, would be good enough to sell seeds commercially and be smokeable recreationally. Sure, many grow to sell and will say this is a waste of time if it doesn't have like 30% THC (exaggeration). But someone like me who grows for myself, and mostly now just to experiment crossing strains (since I have way more weed in my stash than I need), it might be a worthy endeavour. Note: I do not have the skills or patience to do what I suggest, but a master grower who likes science and a challenge might try someday.

    The real question is one of utility. Would creation of this strain have utility? Definitely, judging by people's reactions here. People will pay to smoke it, especially if potency can be improved. And there is money to be made by selling it.

    Look at the utility of crossing indica and sativa strains with cannabis ruderalis, which has very low potency. But what did we get? Hardy, autoflowering plants that have become mainstream. Yet, at the beginning of crossing these plants, you are crossing a potent species with a species nearly devoid of THC and cannabinoids. Worked out well though... so maybe some of these haters should be a little more open minded.

    My thoughts :)
     

  15. I'm not a hater personally, working with med patients means I have looked at autos since day one, it was here in Spain that autos really took off, the long sunny days help.

    However they are the most expensive plants to grow. fact. That in itself is enough to prevent 99% of users growing them. The other 1% should have extenuating circumstances, mobility issues. The fact that the are successful is down to ignorance and commercialism, not because they are a better quality.

    So I see it as everything working out quite badly.

    :)
     
  16. Probably smokes like a boss
     
  17. Very cool looking plant. I would love to have one of these in my garden just to look at..
     
  18. All I know is I want to get my hands on some Albino genetics! (Tell me where!)
    I've been wondering for a long time now if the future holds some PURE snow white buds such as that, and now I have faith it will.
     
  19. So mine isn't as severe, but I have albino traits showing late in flowering, check it out
     

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  20. Shit looks cool as hell imo. Lol
     

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