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U.S. Government Shutdown.. Why exactly?


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Why is the U.S. Govt shutting down all the sudden? We've had to keep borrowing money for the last 30+ years non-stop, why all the sudden are we going to shut down now? Have our loaners decided to stop loaning america money?

Someone please explain.

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From what I gather there was no budget passed last year and they've been beating around the bush about it since.

No one has the balls to tell it like it is, except for a few, because all the politician cares about is reelection. We are broke. Military / defense and entitlements (SS/Medicare/Medicaid) need to be slashed, I'm talking by 50% or so, or we are fucked....literally.

Edited by MJU1983, 08 April 2011 - 03:41 AM.


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It's political theater.

They send all the non-essentials on paid vacation for a few weeks and then go, "See! We need to tax/print/borrow more!"

I think.

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Apparently this has happened before:

United States federal government shutdown of 1995 and 1996 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Because Republicans insist on making the budget about their political agenda (like curving the rights of women) instead of actual fiscal reasons.

This results in gridlock because Democrats aren't going to sell out their beliefs just so the budget can pass

Basically, republicans won't pass a budget because they insist on arguing about something like .05% of the money in it, trying to pass this off as ''cutting spending'' and ''reducing the deficeit''



If they want to really reduce our deficiet, cut defense spending by 50-75% and instantly save 500 billion dollars a year, instead of having higher military spending than the next 17 countries down the list combined

Edited by ZihgZag, 08 April 2011 - 05:33 PM.


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Because Republicans insist on making the budget about their political agenda (like curving the rights of women) instead of actual fiscal reasons.


How are subsidized abortions a right?

It's one thing if you want to call fetuscide a right, but to say that preggers have the "right" to taxpayer money is stupid.

It's a privilege that they shouldn't have in the first place seeing as a majority of taxpayers don't support it.


Otherwise I agree, it's political theater and both sides are acting.

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This results in gridlock because Democrats aren't going to sell out their beliefs just so the budget can pass


I thought Democrats had the majority?

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Because Republicans insist on making the budget about their political agenda (like curving the rights of women) instead of actual fiscal reasons.


If you are playing the "blame game" you might want to question why democrats failed to produce a budget last year? :confused_2:

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Because Republicans insist on making the budget about their political agenda (like curving the rights of women) instead of actual fiscal reasons.

This results in gridlock because Democrats aren't going to sell out their beliefs just so the budget can pass

Basically, republicans won't pass a budget because they insist on arguing about something like .05% of the money in it, trying to pass this off as ''cutting spending'' and ''reducing the deficeit''



If they want to really reduce our deficiet, cut defense spending by 50-75% and instantly save 500 billion dollars a year, instead of having higher military spending than the next 17 countries down the list combined


Ah, nice to see a truly unbiased post.

Democrats aren't going to sell out on their beliefs? LOL

Yes, let's cut defense spending by 75% so the government can have more money to waste on programs and "research" that should be handled by the private sector.



I have to ask all the pro-life people...are you all registered to adopt children?:rolleyes:


No, they're probably not.

They're also probably not out having unprotected sex without being ready for the potential "consequences".

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I thought Democrats had the majority?


Yeah but the democrats and Obama can't produce a budget for 2011 because of Bush, haven't you been watching the news?

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If they want to really reduce our deficiet, cut defense spending by 50-75% and instantly save 500 billion dollars a year, instead of having higher military spending than the next 17 countries down the list combined


$500,000,000,000 unfortunately isn't enough when the budget deficit is $1,600,000,000,000 for 2011. WE still need to reduce it by at least another $1,100,000,000,000?

2011 budget is 20% on "defense/military" which should be reduced, you're right. What you failed to mention is that Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid (entitlements) are 57% of 2011 budget, up from 43% in 2010 (military/defense was at 20% in 2010).

Most of the federal government can be eliminated entirely and rights restored to the states... Good luck trying to get that to happen though, once a giant bureaucracy is created it does not want to relinquish power for any reason.

In 2010 "Defense" - Social Security - Medicare/Medicaid represented 63% of our budget totaling $2,183,000,000,000.

In 2011 JUST Social SecurityMedicare/Medicaid represent 57% of our budget or $2,103,300,000,000. Defense $738,000,000,000 at 20% still.

NO CUTS! Combined they now total 77% of the budget at a price-tag of $2,841,300,000,000.

Talk about unsustainable...

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I have to ask all the pro-life people...are you all registered to adopt children?:rolleyes:


I choose the best stance; I'm pro-life and pro-abortion. Abortion is wrong 90% of the time, but prohibition will only make things worse.

I just don't think taxpayers should be forced to pay for what they see as murder, not fair to them.

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perhaps it was due to a previous problem?
http://www.alpheratz...ush-finger 2.jp (its all about attitude it seems...:D)

blame one side for being corrupt and only interested in shifting wealth and power to the minority, or blame the other for not having the guts to take corrective actions, both sides only care about their own wealth/power and could care less if 'the people' were to die...

Fire them all and lets start over... :cool:


George W. Bush prevented Democrats from doing their job last year? That's news to me! That sneaky bastard just won't go away!

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George W. Bush prevented Democrats from doing their job last year? That's news to me! That sneaky bastard just won't go away!


Yeah man he just really hates America.

Every time he see's democrats trying to work on the budget he just runs up and squirts ketchup all over it. It's true, I saw it happen on multiple occasions.

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Edited by garrison68, 08 April 2011 - 06:43 PM.


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