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Bush Should Be Behind Bars, Not Bradley Manning

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Crypto Tech

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Wikileaks whistleblower Bradley Manning has been held in Solitary Confinement for supposedly downloading over 10,000 classified Government documents, including the controversial video, "Collateral Murder," where US gunners catch 2 Reuters employees in the crossfire of a terrorist strike

Edit: Bold edited because my mistake. Thank you guys for correcting this.

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What ensued was completely inappropriate and cruel treatment behind closed doors at a military brig:

Pfc. Bradley Manning, who has been imprisoned for nine months on charges of handing government files to WikiLeaks, has not even been tried let alone convicted. Yet the military has been treating him abusively, in a way that conjures creepy memories of how the Bush administration used to treat terror suspects. Inexplicably, it appears to have President Obama’s support to do so.

Private Manning is in solitary confinement at the Marine Corps brig in Quantico, Va. For one hour a day, he is allowed to walk around a room in shackles. He is forced to remove all his clothes every night. And every morning he is required to stand outside his cell, naked, until he passes inspection and is given his clothes back.

Military officials say, without explanation, that these precautions are necessary to prevent Private Manning from injuring himself. They have put him on "prevention of injury" watch, yet his lawyers say there is no indication that he is suicidal and the military has not placed him on a suicide watch. (He apparently made a sarcastic comment about suicide.)

Forced nudity is a classic humiliation technique. During the early years of the Bush administration’s war on terror, C.I.A. interrogators regularly stripped prisoners to break down barriers of resistance, increase compliance and extract information. One C.I.A. report from 2004 said that nudity, along with sleep deprivation and dietary manipulation, was used to create a mind-set in which the prisoner "learns to perceive and value his personal welfare, comfort and immediate needs more than the information he is protecting."


If proven guilty, I believe that he shouldn't be doing the time behind bars, but rather this punishment should be reserved for George W. Bush. What Bush did was advocate the slaying of many innocent Muslims and Middle-Easterners, Bradley Manning advocated transparency and truth, shedding light on the horrors committed by Georges terrorist administration.

Your opinion?

Edited by Crypto Tech, 17 March 2011 - 03:45 AM.


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A lot of people should behind bars, not just the scapegoat.

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Bush didn't pull any triggers and Manning didn't release any info regarding our military's krypton.

Arrest the soldiers.

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Your opinion?


Wow this video again!

My opinion is you should do some more reading about this video..

The 2007 airstrike video

You can read my opinion here.

http://forum.grassci...xecution-6.html

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That video does not show what Assange claimed it did. He lied to you.

Read my dissection of the video here:

http://forum.grassci...s-military.html

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That video does not show what Assange claimed it did. He lied to you.

Read my dissection of the video here:

http://forum.grassci...s-military.html

I only came to this thread just because you were the last to post.

lol

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The 2007 airstrike video


That blog and 'raw unedited' video are pretty counter-argumentative. It has no problem admitting that it killed two innocent people and some 'insurgents' all at once.

Even if they did have weapons, I'm not mad at them. They could've been protecting themselves and their property.

Edited by Felipe, 17 March 2011 - 05:49 AM.


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Bradley Manning & Jullian Assange are my heroes.. We need more people like them.. Whats being done to Bradley Manning is beyond a crime against humanity.

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Manning broke American law (whether right or wrong), but he is absolutely a hero. If most Americans had 1/10th of the guts Manning did, we'd still be a great nation...There is no question most American presidents belong behind bars..

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I hope Manning isn't executed, but it serves him right for being an arrogant hacker.

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I hope Manning isn't executed, but it serves him right for being an arrogant hacker.


Huh? He and anyone with similar clearance would have had free access to thos files..

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Killing innocent civilians is fucked up. Collateral Damage my ass, Bush should be in Guantanamo getting a Cock Meat Sandwich.

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Huh? He and anyone with similar clearance would have had free access to thos files..


Other than vacuuming up all those files, he didn't know what the hell was doing. He kept warning his 'friends' about leaking those files instead of just forwarding them to Assange and shutting the fuck up.

I'm not down playing his role to... 'keep the public informed', I just think there was a better way he could've gone about it.

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Can anybody tell me why he needs to be in solitary confinement...? Is he physically dangerous or something? Is it 'for his own protection'? What's the justification behind treating him in such an extreme fashion?

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Can anybody tell me why he needs to be in solitary confinement...? Is he physically dangerous or something? Is it 'for his own protection'? What's the justification behind treating him in such an extreme fashion?


This way they can extort him to prosecute against Julian Assange..

Why else?

Edited by NasaJoe, 17 March 2011 - 09:42 AM.


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This way they can extort him to prosecute against Julian Assange..

Why else?

I think they're just making an example out of him. I don't know what good he could do for the prosecution in a trial against Assange other than what they already know and can easily prove in court.

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This way they can extort him to prosecute against Julian Assange..

Why else?


I think they're just making an example out of him. I don't know what good he could do for the prosecution in a trial against Assange other than what they already know and can easily prove in court.


Scary thing is that you're probably both right... :(

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Solitary confinement is wrong in most situations. It is psychological torture. Of course it's almost pointless against a trained soldier, so i don't see the US Military's point of doing it. They are only creating more extremists, not a good idea..

What i don't get is how people are against what Manning did... If he outed these secrets to be an anarchist, that is one thing... But when the leaks clearly show the US and other governments commiting crimes KNOWINGLY and hiding it from the public, outing that is doing the world a public service. YOu'll notice the only people against Manning and Assange are hardcore capitalists, conservatives and brainwashed US Soldiers... That makes enough sense there.. Free Manning!

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Of course it's almost pointless against a trained soldier, so i don't see the US Military's point of doing it.


Manning was far from being a "trained soldier".

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Manning was far from being a "trained soldier".


That's strange, i wonder how he got in the service then?




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