NON-Melanoma Skin Cancer

I have basal cell skin cancer which is one of the most common cancers (1 in 5 Americans develop it). Non-melanoma skin cancers are not particularly dangerous. If you have melanoma, I am sorry. I beg you not to try this. Melanoma is serious shit and while it is not necessarily a death sentence, you do NOT want to play with it.

Anyhow, what happens is i go to the dermatologist, he finds a lesion, and then i have a choice. I can spend a pile of money getting it removed (excised) using plastic surgery techniques, or i can have the guy cut it off and then cauterize the wound. I use the (brutal) slash and burn technique because I would rather have the scar and some money in my pocket than go through the hassle of getting the plastic surgery and still end up with a scar. This fall the dermatologist found three fresh ones.

Early in December was on-line and found this article: J. Clin. Invest. 111:43–50 (2003). doi:10.1172/JCI200316116 (JCI - Inhibition of skin tumor growth and angiogenesis in vivo by activation of cannabinoid receptors). It is a study on in vivo treatment of non-melanoma skin cancer that shows a very positive effect on skin cancer from the use of cannabinoids. It is an animal study using rats, but what the heck.

Long story short I read and re-read the article, and then contacted one of the authors who said basically that I should give it a try. I tried several methods, but this is what works:

1. Get a valid diagnosis. If you can get the doc to do a punch biopsy great. If he will do the biopsy and leave the wound open, better yet. That is what my guy did on one of the lesions.

2. Get some hash oil. I used both alcohol extracted and butane extracted oil and like the alcohol extracted hash oil better. If it is too pure, it is more of a solid and is hard to work with.

3. Make sure the cannabinoids can get to the cancer. On one of the lesions, the doc did a biopsy, on the others my wife poked holes in my skin with the pointy end of a scalpel. Yes, it is kind of barbaric since we had no lidocaine, but its no worse than a tattoo.

4. Cover the holes with the hash oil and cover the hash oil with a band-aid. Keep hash oil on the lesion (24/7) until the holes (or biopsy) heals.

5. One of my three lesions were healed in about 7 days. Thats right, when the biopsy or self-inflicted holes were gone, the cancer was also gone!

6. I had to retreat two of the cancers - dunno why.

BEFORE is on the left, scale in millimeters

wow, thats awesome! my dad has had that cut and cauterize procedure done a number of times on his head (we used to have a bitchin boat, out in the sun all summer).. best of luck with all that though, wear sun block! dont let that shit come back.

Thanks for the support nb790.

There is a section on "Cancer - Skin" that might give you some more interesting reading. Just click that first link in my sig and scroll down to the "C"s.

Suggestion if you get another one (I hope not, but...), do a day-by-day photo shoot of it and if possible visit your doctor during the treatment to have him observe the progress. We need to have cases like these SO well documented that there can be no questions!

And way to GO!

Granny

Despite our wishes, I will no doubt have more cancers to work with by this fall, but i would rather not wait to get more evidence. Plus, if someone else would be willing to try this alternative, the evidence that we gather would be much stronger.

So, if you are in Colorado and have a NON-melanoma skin cancer that was diagnosed by a Doctor, please PM me. I'm obviously not a doctor, and so i'm not offering to treat you. All i can offer is some hash oil left over from my fall crop and moral support. Oh, i can take the pictures too.

Updates to come.

I went to the Dr. finally, the skin cancers are officially gone. I'll have more this fall (as usual) and will post the result of treating them.

Congrats!

And did you see this article?

http://forum.grassci...ml#post10165815

Good news is just popping up all over!


Granny

Did you tell the doctor what you did so that he could recommend it to other patients or investigate it further?

Did you tell the doctor what you did so that he could recommend it to other patients or investigate it further?

He was very clear that he had a lot to loose. If the DEA came down on him as they could he would loose his license, his home, his office, and everything else they could get ahold of. On the other hand:
http://forum.grassci...vindicated.html

Hurray!!!!!!!!

He was very clear that he had a lot to loose. If the DEA came down on him as they could he would loose his license, his home, his office, and everything else they could get ahold of. On the other hand:
http://forum.grassci...vindicated.html

Hurray!!!!!!!!

Go to your local university, hospital (their research wing), or a research institute and talk to the staff that specialize in skin cancers. We need more research so that clinical trials could be financed and the word can get out!

Go to your local university, hospital (their research wing), or a research institute and talk to the staff that specialize in skin cancers. We need more research so that clinical trials could be financed and the word can get out!

I see that your heart is in the right place and accept your support and encouragement, but, Dude ...

Marijuana is illegal. Only the strongest true believers will do research on it when the DEA can come down on them at any moment. Luckily, there are some heros doing the good work right now.

Read this thread!! Rick Simpson vindicated!

I see that your heart is in the right place and accept your support and encouragement, but, Dude ...

Marijuana is illegal. Only the strongest true believers will do research on it when the DEA can come down on them at any moment. Luckily, there are some heros doing the good work right now.

Read this thread!! Rick Simpson vindicated!

You live in Colorado. I live in Washington. Both are pretty liberal and lax on cannabis, and there is already research on it going on in California and several other states. If I don't get into this lab that I am applying for, I'll look into joining a lab that specializes in skin cancers and try to get some material about the matter published in a few years time.

Researchers in liberal places with medical marijuana legalized can get grants pretty easily. The DEA does not shut down research institutes that are studying cancer.

I promised an update, here it is:

Got 3 more cancers, and had one "return".

The 3 new guys were easily cured just using the previously explained procedure. Yea!!

I grew my hair back over it after the Dr. gave me a cleanish bill of health, but the thing developed a dead center and started bleeding, which is a sure sign that one has a big cancer. After shaving my head again and getting a good photo - i can get about 10x enlargement using a macro lens and digital processing - I could see the cancer was about an inch across and didn't really present on the surface of my skin. It was visible through my skin. (I'm obviously white and have a rather translucent epidermis. To fucking white apparently - LOL.)

In addition to (or rather within) the cancerous area is a sore that scabs over and then dries out and bleeds, but does not heal. The blood flow to that area has obviously stopped as a result of the cancerous cells messing up my circulatory system in that area. The sore is about 3mm across.

It seems that i have 2 types of Basal Cell cancers or that perhaps the one on my head is just a tough SOB. Anyhoo.

My wife and I started working on the the stubborn one again using the old procedure and it really didn't work. The photos that I took showed that the cancer was unaffected by the treatment. We just weren't getting medicine to the sick cells. So, we went a little more crazy and started injecting minuscule (about .01ml) amounts of my hash oil using an insulin syringe into several locations within the cancerous area.

Why i haven't gotten a raging infection is beyond me.

We injected about 0.1ml total of hash oil into 10 sites within the cancer, put hash oil on the lesion and then covered it with a bandage for 7 days. When the bandage came off, the cancer was obviously about half the size. The sore remains, and the veins around the sore are clearly all screwed up.

BUT a lesion that is about 4 x 6 mm is a lot less scary than one ~25mm in its largest dimension.

The cancer is visibly retreating. No infections.

We just finished injecting more oil into 8 sites within the cancer, and i'll wear a bandage for a few days.

I'll let you know.

I can't help but wonder, what is wrong with a civilization where what I am doing is a better solution than going to a Doctor?

(BTW, it is better:
1. its free;
2. the treatment (when it works) leaves no scar, (and i was running out of skin);
3. i don't have to put up with a lidocaine injection, the scalpel excision, and then the cauterization followed by 6-8 hours of significant pain.)

Edited by pintada, 02 April 2012 - 12:52 AM.
fixing syntax

The thing on my head is now completely gone. It was scary, no doubt about that. There is a 4mm scar. Thats it.


I got a new one on my back last month. Actually, it was right on the margin of an old excision scar. Obviously, there was a cancerous - or pre-cancerous - margin left during that excision. I will pay close attention to see if any of the hash oil treated cancers recur or have further problems really close. My bet is that I wont see that sort of thing.

Since we know for a fact that my hash oil is either sterile (by accident) or anti-biotic in a big way we chose to just do the injection and forget the old methodology.

So, inject .02ml under the cancer, put a little on the skin surface for giggles, cover with an adhesive bandage until it came off in the shower, and then wait a little.

The thing came off in one piece leaving a pink spot of new skin. Now there is no indication that there was anything there to worry about.

pintada,
I am glad to hear of your numerous successes in your battle against basal cell carcinoma. Have you ever had the opportunity and means to try Rick Simpson's protocol? If I recall correctly, he recommends consuming orally the oil extract of a pound of good indica (approximately 2 ounces) in a period of 2 months. I ask because it seems like your body is somewhat prone to skin cancer and there may be other pockets within your body where the cancer is hiding.

After you successfully treated your skin cancers have you had any blood tests to ensure that the cancer load on your body has come to a normal level? What I am trying to point out is that while cannabis oil is quite effective as a topical medicine on your cancer, it would be wise to make sure that you are not just treating external symptoms of a bigger problem. Regardless, congratulations on your successes and I wish you all the best going forward.

Herbal Relief

Did the doctor say why it keeps coming back?

Gavin;
There are two reasons that it keeps recurring. First, I have a genetic propensity. I am 1/4 norwegian on my fathers side, my father and aunts both had basal cells. Second, I was raised in the mountains above 8000 feet in altitude and when we left the mountains, we lived in Phoenix and then Miami. Both cities are known for their cancer causing sunshine, but I'm sure my skin sighed in relief to be out of the mountains for a couple of decades. Now we have retired to my home town.

Herbal;
I assure you that my body is as saturated with cannabinoids as I can keep it through the oral enjoyment of the herb! I've got very little money for Drs however.

Thank you both for your support!!

pintada, I am not too surprised at all that the injections remained infection-free - cannabis is a powerful antibiotic for gram positive bacteria! (FYI- there are articles about how cannabis kills ALL types of bacteria which is totally incorrect! Cannabis does NOT kill gram negative bacteria.)

Antibacterial activity of delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol and cannabidiol. (abst - 1976)
Antibacterial activity of delta9-tet... [Antonie Van Leeuwenhoek. 1976] - PubMed - NCBI


Chemicals in Marijuana May Fight MRSA (news - 2008)
Marijuana Ingredients May Fight MRSA

And are you taking your Omega 3? A lack of Omega 3 has been shown to increase the risk of some cancers. Don't know if this is true for your type, but it wouldn't hurt for you to start taking fair-sized dosed every day. I take over a gram of Omega 3 every day!

And I was so happy to read your good news!


Granny