Romulan - Next Generation Seeds with freebee Applejack and Kandy Kush Dirt Grow

Hello,
I am starting out on my second indoor grow. Learned a few things last time:

Perlite to help drainage
Bought a moisture meter
No pruning
Light can be a lot closer
Seeds need to be warm when germinating
There is a ton you can do to try to help them along

So again 12 plants in 5 gallon pots. Mix of black earth, cow manure and compost (in a handy single 3-in-one bag I might add). This time it has 1/4 perlite to help drainage. Seeds are germinating on a heating mat.

The Plants: (the write up is from the indicated company, I did not necessarily buy the seeds there)

From Kind Seed:
Romulan (Next Generation Seeds).
Romulan is a legend, a medical and personal favorite. Now on the 8th Generation back cross, this B.C. original has increased in size and vigor. A squat growing strain known for its overwhelming narcotic stone. It has large dark green leaves, purple stock and leaf stem with frosty buds that are hard and dense. Strong piney smell, a must have for the connoisseurs' head stash. Pure breeding genetics. As seen in Cannabis Culture and High Times. Flowering Time: Indoor 8 weeks Approx Yield: 250 - 350 grams per square meter


From DNS Genetics:
Kandy Kush (Reserva Prevada)
Classic stretch of the OG Kush that bulks up and fills out like the TW to give you OG flavour and TW nugs. Once again we bring the medicinal benefits and the great taste of the OG Kush and crossed it to classic Cali. Train Wreck strain - known for its good commercial yields, frostiness and lemony scents. The sweetness of this Kush hybrid is comparable to kandy and after one hit you will keep coming back for more!! Heavy crystal production comes on after the 5th week but does not stop producing! One of the most resinous plants in our cataloge. True California flavour

From Seedisim:


AppleJack

• Jack Herer x White Widow
• Flowering time 8-10 weeks
• Growing time 3-8 weeks
• Quick flowering Sativa
• Very high THC level
• Medium height
• Sweet fruity buds

The original AppleJack has been a popular strain in some of the hottest coffee shops in Amsterdam since 2001
Finally available in seed form, this extremely potent Jack Herer hybrid will have you spinning on your feet.
A fast flowering, Sativa dominant plant with an incredible THC content and large yields.
The AppleJack grows to medium heights and can be grown in most grow rooms and even in a green house. Thick dense smoke with a strong fruity after taste makes this a true connoisseur strain.

Yeah, right. The last two were freebees, and since I need to fill out the 12 pots, why not.

So here is the setup and I'm just waiting for some action from the seeds.

Sterces.

Hello Mods,

Can you please fix my typo in the title?

Romulan not Romual.

Gotta learn how to type!

Sterces.

Hello Mods,

Can you please fix my typo in the title?

Romulan not Romual.

Gotta learn how to type!

Sterces.

Gotcha covered bro,

chunk

Thanks Chunk,

Don't want a bunch of people out looking for the kick ass Romual that Sterces was growing.

Sorry for the trouble.

Sterces.

Excited to watch this, Sterces. I am starting two of The FLav today, and will start another two in a couple of weeks. Will be interested in comparing with your Romulan. I have only every germ'd with the paper towel method, so am trying soak --> cups of ProMix BX this run.

Best wishes,
Marapa

Hello Marapa,

>>Will be interested in comparing with your Romulan.

Just remember it's an exibition, not a competition.

(At least that is what they said in the '72 hockey series when we needed 3 wins in a row to take it)

Sterces.

Just remember it's an exibition, not a competition.

Just to keep it loose and in line with water-only philosophy, how bout we compete just on one utterly subjective metric: quality buzz hours per calorie of effort expended. That way if I don't do shit for a week I can somehow feel like I'm getting ahead...

The heating pad seems to be working. I just planted both freebees and 6 Romulan seeds. Last time it took days to get anything, and they were spread over a week.

I'm like a nervous papa, 4 more to go!

Sterces.

I dropped six seeds into cups on 1/23, same date as you, I think. So far only two showing aboveground--both of The FLavs!

Well one more sprouted, and that was it.

7 romulan in total. not that impressive.

All the seeds were small, I hope they all make it.

I used some seeds (3) I created last summer to fill out the grow. A cross between Chemo from Jordan of the Islands and Crystal Paradise from K.C. Brains. Those seeds were large!

So now I wait to see if they can get out of the dirt and get rid of their shells. Once they are that far I am good to go.

Still lots that can go wrong in the mean time though.

Sterces.

Hello Marapa,

>>I dropped six seeds into cups on 1/23, same date as you

I put 6 Romulan seedlings in the ground and the two freebees. Don't hold out much hope for the frebees. They were _tiny_.

Put the last Romulan in the next day and filled out the grow today with some seeds I grew last summer. (all had sprouted befor planting)

>>So far only two showing aboveground--both of The FLavs

I hate this part. Seeds don't pop, you put them in the ground and that's the last you see of them, they can't shake their shells.

But once you get past that it is pretty much bliss.

I will be glad when I get my mothers set up and will be working from clones.

Sterces.

of my six 1/23 seeds, there were two each of The Flav, Pure Power Plant, and Reeferman's Harmony. Now two more have popped up, both of the PPPs. I guess I will start another thread for this grow so as not to hijack yours, but I'll be watching to see how things go for you...good vibes for the Romulan and all your plants.

Hello Marapa,

Thanks for the support.

>>I guess I will start another thread for this grow

Good idea, we can all track their growth.

I am worried about my seeds. They don't seem to be doing much.

Sterces.

Hello,

What a brutal week. The first few weeks are nerve wracking to say the least. (For me anyway)

The freebee seeds were worth everthing I paid for them. both dead.

The Romulan had 3 not germinate and another three died this week trying to get out of their shells. So I am down to 4 Romulans.

I germinated a few more of my Chemo-Crystal Paradise cross (now known as Chemo Paradise) but they take 3-4 days, so today I decide to fill the room with two emergency clones I took of the last grow.

If re-veging the finished plants didn't work I was going to use these as my mothers, but the re-veging is working fine, so I had these to work with.

The whole point of the grow was to get a Romulan mother. With only 4 left I won't have much choice.

On the other hand, who knows what the Chemo Paradise will turn out like.

The room isn't much different. All the seeds have shed their shells, so I expect this week to see some action.

The little Romulan in the picture can hardly hold it's head up. If it makes it another couple of days it will be fine, but not the strongest stock I have seen.

I'll have to see if the Chemo Paradise is any better.

The two clones will bring up the grow weight.

Sterces.

Edited by sterces, 31 January 2011 - 11:03 PM.

Sucks about the seeds. Good thing there's clones

Hello Stankie,
>>Sucks about the seeds. Good thing there's clones
Yeah, 4 out of 10 Romulan is not so good. We will see.
But thanks to some self made seeds and the clones you mention, I have a full boat and have set sail on my 2nd indoor grow.


The Romulan are fairly well known, but the other 6 are a cross of a very sweet fairly potent Crystal Paradise and the very powerful but uninteresting flavoured Chemo. At the club they tried to sell me on their 'A1' which was a Chemo cross. They said it was really good, but not quit as brain locking as the Chemo. I am interested to see what comes out of this cross.

Here are some pictures of the little darlings. 1st is the biggest Romulan. Big being a very relative thing at this point. 2nd is the biggest Chemo Paradise. The 3rd is the one from last week that was drooping. I put a little stick in for it to lean against for a couple of days and it seems ready to go on its own now.
The last one is one of my favourite times in the grow. The stem above the seed pod leaves is thicker than that below. The thickness pushes its way down the stalk to the roots. I just find it cool. You would think it grows from a thick base to a thin top (which it pretty much does after this little trick).

Sterces.

Sterces,
thanks for calling my attention to little details of seedlings like that. Now that I have all stages going in my room, I like most everyone have gotten so fixated on the buds that the important little things in life have been getting overlooked. My parallel grow to your Romulan effort is moving along, slowly; I pitched the second wave of seeds (the ones in the "waxing" moon phase, traditionally the proper time to sow) two days ago. The 4 of the first 6 that popped up are looking fine but I had missed that part about stem development.

Hello Marapa,

>>My parallel grow to your Romulan effort is moving along, slowly

I would ber interested in seeing the progress.I only have a HPS and I am wondering how much it is hurting me in the seedling/veg phases. (or if at all)

I wanted to apply some Nitrogen and Phosphorous.

Nitrogen because I felt the plants last time the plants were not green enough.

Phosphorous because the roots on the last batch were not pot bound at all, so there is room for more.

I went to the local Home Depot looking for Blood Meal (Nitrogen) and Bone Meal (Phosphorous). Wouldn't you know they sell a box of bone/blood meal (7-7-0).

So I am going to top dress these ones to see if they are greener and develop more roots as a result.

Below is a helpful (simple) bit of information I found. I think I will pass on the last suggestion though.

Sterces.

Organic or Chemical Fertilizers
Botanists may argue that plants don’t distinguish between organic and inorganic fertilizers. Whether the plant gets its nutrients from compost and handfuls of organic meals, or whether the plants receive weekly dousing with chemical fertilizer, the plants will grow. However, chemical fertilizers do nothing to enhance the biological activity of the soil. Furthermore, the production of chemical fertilizers can yield toxic by-products, such as ammonia. Finally, the production of chemical fertilizers uses significant amounts of fossil fuels.
Bone Meal
· Commonly used as a fall bulb booster
· Rich in phosphorus
· Stimulates root growth
Blood Meal
· Releases nitrogen quickly into the soil
· Use early in the season to prevent tender growth that could be damaged by early frosts
· Relished by carnivores, so don’t use if digging dogs or cats are problematic
Cottonseed Meal
· Contains all the major elements
· Releases nutrients slowly
· A good choice for feeding the organic lawn
Dried Animal Manures
· Contain all the trace elements
· Work well as a soil enrichment agent
Feather Meal
· Provides a slow release form of nitrogen
· Inexpensive, but not widely offered
Fish Meal
· Good source of nitrogen and phosphorus
· Beware of inorganic formulas, which contain added potassium
Hoof and Horn Meal
· Excellent source of slow release nitrogen
· Apply early in the season to allow time for decomposition and plant absorption
Liquid Manure
· Make at home by filling a burlap sack with barnyard manure and soaking in a 50-gallon drum of water for one week
· Use as a foliar feeding spray
· Supplies the full range of trace elements
Liquid Seaweed
· Readily available in several easy to use formulations
· Provides the full range of trace minerals
· Strengthens the immune system of plants, helping them to ward of diseases
· Contains growth hormones that aid in photosynthesis and protein production
Rock Potash
· Maintains its activity in the soil for long periods
· Provides ample potassium, difficult to find in many organic fertilizers
Sewage Sludge
· Gardeners can get it free or at low cost from municipality treatment plant
· Work into the soil to reduce odors

Hello Marapa,

>>My parallel grow to your Romulan effort is moving along, slowly

I would ber interested in seeing the progress.I only have a HPS and I am wondering how much it is hurting me in the seedling/veg phases. (or if at all)

OK, here you go--the four of my first wave (moon phase waning) of six that popped up. They are about 3-1/2" tall and working on the 4th node. I think it's day 12 since they emerged. The Flavs are in back. FWIW, in the second wave I just planted (moon waxing), The Flav is again the first to pop up, again a little less than 48 hours after hitting the soil.

I am liking these T5 HO flouros. I just got a new 2' x 4 tube unit, so that in my mother/veg area I can have several areas for different sized plants and still keep them close. They are efficient (power wise), effective, fairly cheap...the only downside I see is their total lifecycle--the spent tube should be managed as a household haz waste (for mercury). Although the small T5 bulbs have reduced the amount of mercury and phosphors over the earlier generations of flouro "fat tubes."

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Hello Marapa,

Thanks for the pic. I am a node behind.

I can honestly say it might be because they just sat there for a week. It took days for them to spread the seed pod leaves.

I have two Romulan that are growing, and two that are kind of in neutral. i have a little top dressing for them maybe that will pick them up.

Thanks again, I think I will invest in some fluorescents with the 'savings' from this grow.

I already have an idea on how I will do it!

Sterces.