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top it or low stress train it?
Started by
no1budzilla
, Dec 16 2010 11:57 AM
#1
Posted 16 December 2010 - 11:57 AM
hiya just wondering wot you guys fink i should do.
i know u can cut the top of a young plant so it grows two man stems. (dont know how tho any help?). but ive been looking at lst today i will be growing 4 plants in 1.2*1.2*2.0 (metres) with a 600w hps from seed till harvest what method do you think i will benefit from most? soil grown . nutes from week 2/3
i know u can cut the top of a young plant so it grows two man stems. (dont know how tho any help?). but ive been looking at lst today i will be growing 4 plants in 1.2*1.2*2.0 (metres) with a 600w hps from seed till harvest what method do you think i will benefit from most? soil grown . nutes from week 2/3
#2
Posted 16 December 2010 - 12:07 PM
topping IS lst 
2 meter long screen, you'll want to add a light mover to cover that with 1 light.
2 meter long screen, you'll want to add a light mover to cover that with 1 light.
#3
Guest_zombiemodder_*
Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:00 PM
Guest_zombiemodder_*
Topping creates more bud sights. And lst keeps the hight under control i would recomend both to maximize yield which should be substantial with that 600 watter... I see good smoke in your future.
And to the above poster topping and LST are two totally different things.
#4
Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:01 PM
Really? lol So you don't give the plant a low stress when you pull, a node? You kidding?
#5
Guest_zombiemodder_*
Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:11 PM
Guest_zombiemodder_*
You actuall just clip the node to turn it into two branches instead of the one. LST is when you actually tye the branches down with rope to get it to grow in the direction you want it to to keep her short.
#6
Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:17 PM
Wrong.topping IS lst
Topping is cutting the top of new growth which will cause two main stems to form from there.
LST involves no cutting, it is a training method where you tie down the plant to keep it low.
You can use these techniques in conjunction. Both promote lower growth and development of more budsites.
OP, check out this thread about topping and fimming: http://forum.grassci...-made-easy.html
#7
Guest_zombiemodder_*
Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:21 PM
Guest_zombiemodder_*
Good link toasty thats the best tutorial i've seen on here so far... Actually saved that to my favorites bar...
#8
Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:49 PM
topping IS lst
2 meter long screen, you'll want to add a light mover to cover that with 1 light.
i thought topping was HST because ur actualy doing damage to the plant, i thought LST is only LST if you dont do damage to the plant it's self
#9
Posted 16 December 2010 - 01:57 PM
Wrong.
Topping is cutting the top of new growth which will cause two main stems to form from there.
LST involves no cutting, it is a training method where you tie down the plant to keep it low.
You can use these techniques in conjunction. Both promote lower growth and development of more budsites.
OP, check out this thread about topping and fimming: http://forum.grassci...-made-easy.html
THANK YOU for the thread! I've been searching the stickies for this and could not find it.
#10
Posted 16 December 2010 - 03:52 PM
its 2 metres high not long 1.2 squared by 2 metres high.topping IS lst
2 meter long screen, you'll want to add a light mover to cover that with 1 light.
#11
Posted 16 December 2010 - 04:45 PM
Topping would be considered HST High Stress Training. Just different ways to train the growth of your plant to conform to the structure you want. LST is low stress cause you dont chop. Is supercropping then considered LST b/c that seems High Stress to me...
#12
Posted 16 December 2010 - 06:11 PM
topping IS lst
2 meter long screen, you'll want to add a light mover to cover that with 1 light.
Your answer IS wrong.
#13
Posted 16 December 2010 - 06:18 PM
You are manipulating the plant to do what you want and stressing it while doing so. High stress or low stress, whatever, it's still a form of training. I'm not here to argue with anyone, call it what you want man.
#14
Posted 16 December 2010 - 07:37 PM
It is two types of "training methods" but they are two totally different methods providing two totally different result patterns. Maybe you should read that sticky above and stop giving bad information... And for all the new growers dont listen solely to the advice of some people on this forum...Always double check somewhere
#15
Posted 16 December 2010 - 07:49 PM
Easy ladies, I'm 66 yrs old and been growing since many of you were still a thought. You're being all high and mighty over terminology. Anything you do to it other than letting it be, is training. Super-cropping, lst, topping, etc. I understand that the term "lst", is often used for describing basic plant manipulation. Bending arms, etc, my point was merely that topping is also a form of training.
Give an old coot a little break eh? lol
Give an old coot a little break eh? lol
#16
Posted 16 December 2010 - 09:09 PM
ok, to actually answer the op's question... there is no right answer. In the space you have you have to consider height vs width. you want your plants to occupy as much space as possible without blocking out the other plants. If you top a plant it will drastically decrease vertical growth. If you LST your plants it will do the same, obviously, but still might end up growing fairly tall. Each strain also has preferences on training methods. If you do both you will have a giant short bush. As for nutrients, there should be a schedule out there for them, but the rule of thumb states that you should start with pure water and gradually increase the amount as the plant grows, and switch during flowering. If I were you I would find that chart, look up how to do a screen of green (scrog) and LST the plants, to reduce stress and maximize yield. Good luck with your ventures. peace
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