Official FreeMasson Thread *this will blow you away*

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  1. for those of you who are unaware of this secret socioty, this will intregue you greatly. It was founded long, long, ago. Not sure exactly when, but speculated to be back in England before America gained its Independence, only then, did it flourish. The Freemassons, otherwise known as the Illuminati, have infiltrated everysingle part of our lives, weather you believe it or not. Here is indepth reseach into American Culture and history, proving, at least, the existance of such an Occult, and its true Intentions...this is very mind boggling for someone who is just finding this out, but i strongly urge you to read completely through, as you will have a completely new outlook on modern day American socioty...

    Here is the link for the site im getting this all from, it has pictures and all, to better explain what is being said. You might want to just refer to the site instead, as you will better understand what you are reading, with images they use to dipict certiain things...enjoy

    http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/13_33_freemason_sig.htm


    11, 13 and 33

    The Illuminati / Freemason Signature

    by Robert Howard


    In my research regarding the Freemason's, United States Presidents and The Masonic Power Structure I was constantly running into the number 13 and 33. This research confirmed that most of the founding fathers were Masons. It also confirmed that most of the Presidents were Masons. My first run in with 13 of course was the 13 colonies. Second was the great Seal.

    For a detailed look at the number 11 see Destruction of the Trade Centers: Occult Symbolism Indicates Enemies Within Our Own Government

    "The numbers 3, 7, 9,11,13, 33, 39. Any multiple of these numbers have special meaning to the Illuminati. Notice that the Bilderberg Group has core of 39 members who are broken into 3 groups of 13 members in each group. Notice that the core of 39 answers to the 13 who make up the Policy Committee. Take special notice that the 13 members of the Policy Committee answer to the Round Table of Nine. You know that the original number of states in the United States of America was 13. The Constitution has 7 articles and was signed by 39 members of the Constitutional Convention." Secret Societies / New World Order: by Milton William Cooper

    Occultists the world over believe that, once a symbol is created, it acquires power of its own, and more power is generated when such symbol(s) are created without the profane [uninitiated] knowing about it. And, the greatest power of all is created in the symbol(s) if the uninitiated NEVER discover that the symbol exists. MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.

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    There are 13 leaves on the left olive branch with 13 berries. 13 stripes on the middle shield. 13 arrows on the right. 13 stars above the eagles head. 13 letters in the "E Pluribus Unum" on the ribbon. 13 letters in Annuit Coeptis. There are 13 blocks top to bottom on the pyramid. Fritz Springmeir in his The 13 Bloodlines says these 13 blocks represent the 13 Satanic family's.

    In the circles at the end of the hexagram points it even spells the word Mason.

    The Roman Numerals at the bottom of the Pyramid: MDCCLXXVI

    We do not have to add them together to get the MARK OF THE BEAST OR THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME. John does not tell us to ADD THEM TOGETHER. It is not that we cannot add them together, but the point is John does not TELL US TO ADD THEM TOGETHER. We then will take a different tact to solve the riddle. We will use EXACTLY WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS US: 600, 60 and 6. We will start with the REVERSE GREAT SEAL, the SEAL THAT DANIEL GAVE TO US. Embedded at the base of the PYRAMID ARE THE ROMAN NUMERICAL LETTERS: "MDCCLXXVI".


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    Now you would normally read that as 1776, which is correct. THAT IS THE "OBVIOUS" MEANING OF THOSE LETTERS. But what is the HIDDEN NUMERICAL VALUE OF THOSE LETTERS? And what if we took all of the Roman Numerals together and added them up? The Romans used the following letters for their number system: DCLXVI with D=500, C=100, L=50, X=10, V=5, nd I - 1. The M letter was not used until much later. Now if we take these letters and add them all up, we come to 666. If we take them as Scripture gives the number, we come up with this in descending order:


    There are 13 stars in the Masons square on the treasury seal on the right. The Department=13 of the treasury=13.

    E.W. Bullinger writes:

    "As to the significance of thirteen, all are aware that it has come down to us as a number of ill-omen. Many superstitions cluster around it, and various explanations are current concerning them.

    "Unfortunately, those who go backwards to find a reason seldom go back far enough. The popular explanations do not, so far as we are aware, go further back than the Apostles. But we must go back to the first occurrence of the number thirteen in order to discover the key to its significance. It occurs first in Gen. xiv. 4, where we read 'Twelve years they served Chedorlaomer, and the thirteenth year they REBELLED.'
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    "Hence every occurrence of the number thirteen, and likewise of every multiple of it, stamps that with which it stands in connection with rebellion, apostasy, defection, corruption, disintegration, revolution, or some kindred idea." (Bullinger, E.W. Number in Scripture, Kregel Publications, (c)1967, p. 205).

    Was not the founding of America in REBELLION of England? The number 13 and 33 is the freemasons number.

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    Occultists Worship Numbers

    "During the Salem, Massachusetts witch trials of 1692, 13 women were executed."

    I remember reading somewhere that this wasn't witches at all. It was Christian women who caught the elite using witchcraft and they were burned at the stake instead.

    In the Nation's Capitol the father of "ONE nation under God," George Washington, is memorialized in the rotunda ceiling on a mural entitled, The Apophiosis of Washington. The mural pictures the nations first father surrounded by 13 maidens.

    On August 6, 1945 at 8:15 a.m. United States B-29 bomber Enola Gay, on Mission No. 13, dropped an atomic bomb called "Little Boy" on Hiroshima, Japan near the 33rd Parallel. This was "Day One" of a new age, the Nuclear Age. To understand the change that took place, we must back up and look at the importance of the number 13 from the formation of the United States to the atomic bomb's explosion in Hiroshima.

    In 1935, Paul Foster Case wrote: "Since the date, 1776, is placed on the bottom course of the pyramid [on the Great Seal], and since the number 13 has been so important in the history of the United States and in the symbols of the seal, it is not unreasonable to suppose that the thirteen courses of the pyramid may represent thirteen time-periods of thirteen years each." The 13 time-periods of 13 years each equaled 169 years. From July 4, 1776 to July 4, 1945 equaled 169 years. From July 4, 1945 to August 6, 1945 (Hiroshima) was 33 days.

    "President Kennedy was wounded in the exact three same spots as Hiram Abif, who was murdered in the Masonic initiation, representing the persecution of the Templars on Friday, the 13th, in the year 1307, where Hiram Abif is struck in the back, and in the throat, and in the head. Dealey Plaza is just a very few short miles from the 33rd parallel. The highest degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, the Meritorious Degree, the Degree of the Illuminati, whose motto is "Ordo Ab Chao" or "Out of Chaos Comes Order"--which literally means if they break down the existing structure and cause the population to cry out for order, they will emerge as the rulers and will have the world that they seek." United States Presidents And The Masonic Power Structure

    May 13, 1914 - Fatima Vision
    May 13, 1941 - Stalin divides Russia into 7 districts in preparation for war
    May 13,1981 - Pope's attempted assassination
    May 13, 2000 - Third secret partially revealed. Relates to Popes shooting on May 13, 1981
    May 13, 2000 Pope alludes to the Beast rising out of the sea in Revelation. The Beast has 7 heads.
    May 13, 2000 Putin divides Russia into 7 districts in preparation for-?

    The Cuban missile crisis lasted 13 days, which suggests a ploy or fake crisis. The upcoming movie is even entitled "13 Days."

    Many movies have the number 13 in the title. 13 Frightened Girls (1963), 13 East Street (1952), 13 Floors (1991), 13 West Street (1962), 13 Fighting Men (1960), 13 Ghosts (1960), A remake of this movie is in the process right now. 13 Lead Soldiers (1948), 13 Men and a Gun (1938), Apollo 13 (1995). 6 Days and Seven Nights with Harrison Ford. 6+7=13. We even have a rating for movies PG-13. In case you didn't know it, Hollywood is owned by the masons. Obvious isn't it. John Wayne was a mason. How many of us played cowboys and Indians. No one wanted to be the Indian. Indians got killed we all knew that. This was Hollywood's way of glorifying the mass murder of a race of people. Same way in Germany. The kids played Nazi SS and Jews. Every kid wanted to be a Nazi, never the Jew or Christian. Gene Rodenberry creator of Star Trek series was a mason. Even the name Vulcan was the name of a false Roman god.

    The communicator is a pyramid. By the way Star Trek was created to get us ready for a fake alien invasion to usher in the New World Order. See: The Fake Alien Invasion You know the old expression, " Life imitates art", more truth to that then you realize. Watch and listen to the movies you watch. They always slip the numbers 13 or 33 in there somewhere. Remember the movie On Any Given Sunday. The quarter back was number 13 and the receiver was number 33. Who could miss the the all seeing eye through-out the movie. This message was obvious to me. What they were saying is this. There are 33 titles in the Old Testament for the antichrist, while there are 13 in the New Testament. Satan (13) is the quarterback. 33rd degree Masons are the receivers. In other words the 33's are bringing back the old testament Egypt Isis/Osiris/Ra/Satan one world religion Zep Tepi. Zep Tepi was that corrupt "Golden Age" of incarnate demons which the Egyptian mystery religion represented and continues to represent. It is an ancient violent and immoral world which developed before the Flood which New Age spirit guides are seeking to re-establish. They are seeking to reestablish this age under Globalism to be ruled once again by 13/Satan New testament Anti-Christ. Even the movie The Last Boyscout with Bruce Willis and Damon Wayans. Damon had the number 13 on the back of his head. What was he in this movie? A forced retired quarterback looking for payback!!! How much more obvious can this message be?

    1997 Diana and Dodi Fayed died when a Mercedes provided by Mr. Al Fayed and driven by his employee, Henri Paul, ploughed into the 13th pillar in the Alma tunnel in Paris on August 31 1997.

    One example relevant to our study is the explosion of the Apollo 13 spacecraft, name 'Aquarius' which occurred at 1:13 in the afternoon (1313 military time) on April 13, 1970.

    Mars Pathfinder landing site (19.5 N by 33.3 W) - July 4th, 1997.

    Basketball superstar, international cultural icon, and real life hero Micheal Jordan retired from the NBA after completing 13 AMAZING seasons as the most successful sports superstar of ALL TIME on Wednesday January 13, 1999. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/thirteen/index.htm

    UPC/EAN-13 Bar code system.

    Vice President Gore conceded on the 13th day of December, which officially made Bush president on the 13th day, which suggest a ploy to bring about a change in the voting process.

    REGIONAL LEADERSHIP COUNCIL

    The United States has been divided into seven different regions geographically. Each region has a 13 member leadership council that coordinates with the local leadership councils (are you getting the idea by now? The Illuminati are set up a lot like "Amway" or any other well-organized business enterprise with a flowchart of accountability for each member). This council will look something like this:

    Head of council (1), Military (2 seats), Spiritual (2 seats), Scholarship (2 seats), Finances (2 seats), Training (2 seats), Sciences (2 seats).

    Total: 13 members

    The regional councils will represent the different areas of interest and knowledge that the Illuminati pursue. The membership will change over time as members are promoted or demoted.

    In a similar fashion, JFK, Jr., was killed and committed to the waters of the Atlantic close to the intersection of the N. 41 parallel and W. 71 meridian; summing up, 4 + 1 + 7 + 1 = 13, the most Masonically correct number. This intersection, southwest of Martha's Vineyard, is also close to the small island called No Mans Land. "No Mans" is a Baconian cypher for "Mason", i.e., Mason Land. JFK, Jr., and his public wife, Carolyn Bessette, were married on Cumberland Island, off the coast of Georgia. This island is close to the intersection of the N. 31 parallel and the W. 81 meridian; again, 3 + 1 + 8 + 1 = 13 Paranoid Pattern Finding & Masonic Cues

    Just the crap below would be enough to convince me of the occult nature of 13.

    This is the completion of the sacred geometry of the Priory of Sion. Blessed be the SERPENT who told Eve, "Thou shalt not surely die..."A Sacred Covenant was made between ALMIGHTY GOD and the re-assembled 13th Tribe of Levi on the 27th of September, 1973. We were a genuinely archetypal institution. My abduction was not co-incidental but part of the Grand Design. It represented the birth of a New Earth Nation - GENESIS II. The child I carried was called THOTH, (though at the time I first heard this word it mean't nothing to me. Thoth suggested that we link in all the threads to the old narrative... the Original Intent of the Egyptian Thesis.

    Another interesting fact to consider is that of the 37 Presidents of the United States before Jimmy Carter, at least 18 or 21 (depending on which source you believe) were close relatives. That comes to somewhere between 48.6 percent and 56.7 percent-far to much to be coincidence, as any conspiritologist (or mathematician) would tell you. Of the 224 ancestors in the family tree of 21 Presidents, we find 13 Roosevelt's, 16 Coolidge's, and 14 Tyler's. Another source manages to relate 60 percent of the Presidents and link most of them to the super-rich Astor family. This data does not include genealogies of the five most recent President. Psychologist G. William Domhoff claims that a large part of America's Ruling elite, just like that of Europe, are related by marriage. (Everything is Under Control. Conspiracies, Cults, and Cover-Ups by Robert Anton Wilson pg 39-40)

    How many of you remember when we were kids the first secret code we learned was the alphabet with a number above each letter. Starting with the letter A with the number 1 above it ending with Z which would of course represent the number 26. We used to pass coded letters to our buddies in class using this code. At least I did. Take a piece of paper and lay out this code. It should look like this.

    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
    A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

    This code is one of the simplest codes there is. You can even do it in reverse. A being 26 until Z is 1.

    Now using the code above, apply that to the following government and media establishments. And do the math. The number 13 or 33, sometimes both are cleverly hidden in the initials.

    3 2- 19=13 The Eye of Horus. Same as Dairy Queen
    C B S

    3 14 14 =3+1+4+1+4=13
    C N N

    3 9 1=3+9+1=13
    C I A (Central Intelligence Agency )

    4 8 19=4x8=32-19=13
    DH S (Department of Human Services)

    6 2 9= 6- 2=4+9=13
    F B I

    14 19 1 = 1+4=5-19=negative14+1=negative13 ?
    N S A

    1 15 12 = 1+15=16-1=15-2=13
    A O L (America On-Line) note the eye in the pyramid.

    6 5 13 1 = 6-5=1+13=14-1=13
    FE M A (Federal Emergency Management Association)

    5 16 1 = 5+1=6+6=12+1=13
    E P A (Environmental Protection Agency) This is a shame. Its the only way they could charge us for the air we breathe.

    13 9 F = 1+3=4+9=13F F=Freemason
    M I 6 (British Intelligence) This one is freemason from front to back

    23 8 15 = 2x3=6-8=-2+15=13
    W H O (World Health Organization)

    10 7 2 This one was very clever. Its reversed. = 2x7=14-01=13
    K G B (Russian Intelligence)

    14 1 6 20 1 This one is reversed also. = 1x20=20+6=26+1=27-14=13
    N A F T A (North American Free Trade Agreement)

    14 1 20 15 = 14-1=13-20=negative 7-1=negative 8-5=negative 13 ?
    N A T O (North Atlantic Treaties Organization)

    20 2 14 =20-2=18-1=17=4=13
    T B N (Trinity Broadcasting Network) TRINITY BROADCASTING NETWORK The biggest and most evil force of unholy false Christianity

    21 19 1 = 2x1=2+1=3+9=12+1=13
    U S A

    McDonalds restaurant. The big golden M is the 13th letter of the alphabet. Fritz Springmeier in his 13 Illuminati Bloodlines has already proven the McDonald's are associated with these Satanic families.

    Braums Ice Cream Brahms Does anybody see the 13 in these logos?



    They're the ones in the government. They're the ones behind professional sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while they're busy creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols-that they would create "amusements".

    Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree Freemason-Disneyworld, Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey, with Hersey Park. They create all of these amusements and games and pastimes to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they're busy overthrowing the Protestant form of government. The Black Pope

    14 6 12 12 =6=18-4=14-1=13
    N F L

    14 12 1 =14-2=12+1=13
    N B A

    As kinsmen of our Aryan ancestors were sanctified with the Zaothra, ( Zoroastrian religion is the same as the Luciferian polytheistic religion of Mazdaism, with its chief god being Lucifer going by his alias Ahura-Mazda), or consecrated water, and there-by devoted to the service of Ahura. 32nd Freemason Ritual I own two Mazda trucks and they both have 13 gallon fuel tanks.

    Mazda is not the only automobile manufacturer to use ancient pagan god symbolism.

    Egyptian symbol for the god ra.



    In occultic/Satanic doctrine, the upper four points of the Goathead represent the four elements of the world, Fire, Water, Earth, and Air. The bottom fifth point represents the spirit of Lucifer. In the photocopy of the Goathead Pentagram, the fifth point extends down into the mind of the goat, who represents Lucifer. Thus, in this street layout, the fifth point is the White House, a symbol placement which represents the intention that the spirit and the mind of Lucifer will be permanently residing in the White House. MASONIC SYMBOLS OF POWER IN THEIR SEAT OF POWER -- WASHINGTON, D.C.

    goat n. 1. A hollow-horned ruminant (genus Capra) of rocky and mountainous regions, and related to the sheep and including wild and domesticated forms. Funk & Wagnalls Standard Dictionary International Edition 1969.

    ram (ram) n. 1. A male sheep. Funk & Wagnalls Standard Dictionary International Edition 1969.

    Dodge Logo. Dodge Ram Trucks. A rams horns turns downwards. This logo cleverly makes it a goat head with the horns upward to represent the goat head.



    What does financial chaos lead us to?. Chapter 13 bankruptcy. The legal system is owned by the masons. Most of the United States Supreme Court Judges have been Masons. See: United States Presidents and The Masonic Power Structure . The Judges are listed there.

    12 jurors and one judge =13. There is no law anywhere that requires 12 jurors. So why 12?



    Proctor & Gamble vigorously denies the accusations, contending that the horns are merely curls of hair. And the 13 stars? According to Proctor & Gamble, they represent the original 13 colonies of the U.S.A. The man in the moon, a company spokesman claims, also honors the original colonies.
    In 1992, Proctor & Gamble decided to slightly revise its bizarre and troublesome logo. A corporate spokesman announced that the curls (or horns?) were being softened artistically. Other minor changes were also made, ostensibly to alleviate concerns. But rumors and questions still remain.
    In any case, soap-maker Proctor & Gamble has filed lawsuits against several people believed to be responsible for spreading the allegations of devilism. But, in at least one of the lawsuits, the company raised eyebrows when the news came out that Proctor & Gamble was seeking exactly $66,600 in damages!

    Thirteen years later, the French Revolution begins. ("13" is an occultic number: Antichrist emerges from the 13th and lost tribe of Dan. The Munsters live on 1313 Mockingbird Lane and Friday the 13th is associated with bad luck. Sometimes, but not usually, a 13th month is added to the Hebrew lunar calendar.)

    On January 7th, Bill Clinton preached a sermon at the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington, D.C. The sermon lasted precisely 13 minutes: there's that number again! In the sermon, he told the 700 people in attendance, "I look forward to finding out whether John Quincy Adams was right when he said, 'There is nothing so pathetic in life as an ex-president.'" (3) I think he was far more pathetic as President. Bill Clinton concluded his 13 minute sermon by thanking the "parish" for its "welcome to gay and lesbian Christians, people who should not feel outside the family of God." (4) Tell it to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah on Judgment Day, Bill! Pastor J. Philip Wogaman and President Clinton exchanged backslaps.

    "By the authority vested in me as President (Clinton) by the Constitution and bearing in mind the obligations of the United States pursuant to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and other relevant treaties concerned with the protection and promotion of human rights to which the United States is now or may become a party in the future, it is hereby ordered." Like the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the Convention on the Rights of the Child uses manipulative and misleading language. According to Article 13, "The child shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers..." In other words, parents have no authority to keep a child from reading a sexually explicit magazine or visiting pagan chat rooms on Internet. While parents lose their right to set safe boundaries for their children, the State assumes full power to "protect" the child and define the rules. Thus Article 13 concludes with: "This right may be subject to certain restrictions, but these shall only be such as are provided by law and are necessary for respect of the rights or reputations of others; or for protection of national security or public order." Likewise, if parents restrict their child's "right to freedom of association" or their child's ambiguous rights to "privacy" or "conscience and religion" (Articles 14 -16), they would break this law and face the potential loss of their child to the state's "protection" services. In the context of UN ideology, "national security or public order" refers to the concept of solidarity, a utopian community oneness based on shared values defined by Globalist leaders. Trading U.S. Rights for UN Rules

    "1313" CONSTRUCTED WITH ROCKEFELLER FUNDS

    The 1947-1948 Annual Report of the tax-exempt Laura Spelman Rockefeller Fund revealed: "In 1938, a new building at 1313 East Sixtieth Street, Chicago (constructed under grants from the Spelman Fund) was completed to provide adequate quarters… for the use and occupancy of the national governmental organizations. This building has come to be known as '1313'. "… An agency known as the Public Administration Clearing House was set up… Endorsement of the Public Administration Clearing House came from the National Municipal League, the American Municipal Association, etc…. "The Public Administration Clearing House manages the building at 1313 E. Sixtieth Street, Chicago." Further financing for the "1313" has been provided by the Carnegie Corporation, the Julius Rosenwald (Sears Roebuck & Company) Fund, and the Russell Sage Foundation. In his article in the January 1973 issue of AMERICAN OPINION magazine Gary Allen said that the primary funding now comes from the Ford Foundation which has "poured tens of millions of dollars into scores, possibly hundreds of regional government projects" promoted by "1313".

    Federal reserve act - transferred money issue to Banksters - December 23 1913

    Roosevelt declares bankruptcy of US March 9 1933 (or 3/9/33) this one has the 3, 39 and 33.



    33

    Another big number for the Mason's is 33. As this is the highest degree in Masonry you can hold.

    14 1 19 1 =14-1=13+19=32+1=33
    N A S A

    The Enterprise Mission's website by Richard Hoagland is the best for exposing NASA's tie to freemasonry.

    8 1 1 18 16 = 8-1=7+1=8+18=26+1=27+6=33
    H A A R P

    21 14 = 2+1=3 1-4=3 3 and 3 make 33
    U. N. United Nations



    There are 33 sections to the United Nations on the inner emblem logo.

    Harry S. Truman. As the 33rd President, this 33rd degree Mason initiated the Nuclear Age, the crowning success of alchemy, when the first A-bomb exploded at the 33rd Parallel Trinity Test Site, (Almagordo) White Sands, New Mexico. He was responsible for killing of thousands of Japanese (the Yellow Peril) at two cities close to the 33rd Parallel, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    9 2 13 = 9+2=11 1+1+1=3and3 make 33
    I B M

    24 6 12 = 24+6=30+1=31+2=33
    X F L

    21 11 = 2=1=3x11=33
    U K (United Kingdom)

    1+2=3 3 make 33
    A B C

    1947 On July 8, 1947 a UFO and aliens' bodies were allegedly found in the desert outside Roswell, New Mexico at the 33rd Parallel.

    1946 On August 19, 1946, Bill Clinton, the 42nd President, was born in Hope, Arkansas, at the 33rd Parallel. His parentage is disputed. As a young man, Bill Clinton was a Master Counselor of the Masonic-connected Demolay. ("Demolay" derives from the Grand Master of the Knights Templar, James deMolay (1244-1314)). Clinton's ties with the C.I.A. began when he studied at Oxford. Clinton's reign as President has been noted for numerous scandals, including the unexplained deaths of more than 50 of his associates by means of bullets and plane crashes.

    In David Yallop's book, In God's Name, which exposes the murder of the Pope who was in power for only 33 days, Freemasonry was a major issue. According to Yallop, Pope John Paul I, Albino Luciani, was murdered because he was going to take drastic measures and make drastic changes within the Vatican.

    Today's postage stamp is 33 cents.

    By the way, Prince Charles Coat of Arms (Revelations 13:2) has another symbol--The Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the parent organization over Free Masonry, world-wide. When a man becomes a 33rd Degree Mason, he swears allegiance to that organization, and thereby to Prince Charles. The Bible gives us 42 signs of the Antichrist

    4. To enhance all these elements, including #3, the Illuminati would desire to place a man whom they control in the group being sacrificed, most preferably a Manchurian Candidate, i.e., a man whom they have previously programmed by Mind Control to willingly die for the Illuminist cause. David Koresh was just a man. Occultists have been told that he was Illuminist, and had been programmed to be the perfect Manchurian Candidate, quite willing to die for the cause. Koresh was 33 years old, a perfect age for the Illuminati to set him up as the Messiah figure to his cult, as Jesus Christ was 33 years old when He finished His ministry. Additionally, 3 + 3 = 6 , the favorite number of the Illuminati. Remember this first "6", for it becomes very important in a few paragraphs below.

    So what does all this mean? It is my opinion after reading the following article that 13 and 33 is also Satan's number. According to an article by Chuck Missler of Koinoia House there are 33 titles in the Old Testament for the antichrist, while there are 13 in the New Testament. Since it has been proven that most of the 33rd degree Freemason's worship Lucifer this 13 and 33 is a homage to their god. Matthew 4:8-9 (8: Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
    9: And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.) Christ did not dispute the fact that Satan owned the kingdoms of the world.

    A tiara, or crown with 13 gems, with a diamond in the center, is a symbol of the coming reign of the "chosen one". The Illuminati: Part 7 - Illuminati Symbols and Clues; Level of Infiltration -

    One also must remember the words of Prof. Revilo P. Oliver: The question of precisely what fires the will of the wealthy supranational elites seeking to manipulate and control world events, has not escaped the attention of serious students of conspiracies and cover-ups. The late American Professor Revilo P. Oliver, a confirmed atheist, was forced to conclude: "A theory that a conspiracy has been working consciously for many centuries is not very plausible unless one attributes to them a religious unity. That is tantamount to regarding them as Satanists engaged in the worship and service of supernatural evil. The directors of the conspiracy must see or otherwise directly perceive manifestations which convince them of the existence and power of Lucifer. And since subtle conspirators must be very shrewd men, not likely to be deceived by auto-suggestion, hypnosis, or drugs, we should have to conclude that they probably are in contact with a force of pure evil." (Prof. Revilo P. Oliver, Conspiracy or Degeneracy?, USA)

    A famous mason Manly P. Hall stated the following "When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly handle energy." (Manly P. Hall, The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, p. 124;)

    The 33 degrees was no mistake. Its like the temperature,32 and below is frozen (not knowing) at 33 it thaws (knowing).
     
  2. this ties in with the Freemasons, and thier plot to form a New World Order. Now this does seem far-fetched, but then again, they did prove the Freemasons existence didnt they?

    http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/fake_invasion.htm

    What is going on? Something very sinister is going on. Polls reveal that over 90% of the Americans people believe in UFO's and 95% of these people believe the government is keeping this knowledge from the public. But Why?
    Are they afraid the people will panic if an "Official" announcement were made? Hardly. Such an announcement would create interest and excitement and many questions, particularly by the churches, but do not panic. Why then the continued cover-up?

    There is overwhelming evidence in the past several years from "Whistle Blowers" retired military officers who have finally said, "Enough is enough! It's time the government told the people the truth!" These officers, such as
    Navy Intelligence officer, William Cooper, Major John Lear (whose father founded the Lear Jet Corp.) and Air Force officer William English, to name but a few, have all discovered the truth, and at the risk of their very
    lives, are trying to alert YOU to the secrets behind the UFO's and the Alien Presence on this earth. These people worked on the secret projects, had access to 'classified' Top Secret documents , had seen with there own eyes
    'captured' aliens, or extraterrestrial entities, UFO's and the incredible technology they brought with them.

    Sightings of UFO's have been reported throughout history, and biblical and historic references to "Flaming Chariots" huge flying 'birds' and odd looking beings predate our history by thousands of years. In the 1940's several
    alien spacecraft were recovered by the U.S. and other countries, along with a few dead aliens and one live one they named EBE (a name suggested by Dr. Vannever Bush and was short for Extraterrestrial Biological Entity).

    In 1953 astronomers discovered large objects in space which were moving toward earth. At first they believed they were asteroids, but later evidence proved the objects could only be spaceships. Project Sigma and Project Plato
    intercepted alien radio communication and using the computer binary language, was able to arrange a landing that resulted in face-to-face contact with alien beings from another planet. Meanwhile, a race of human-looking aliens
    contacted the U.S. Government, warning us that the aliens orbiting the equator were hostile beings from Orion. These human-type aliens demanded we dismantle and destroy our nuclear weapons, that we were on a path of
    self-destruction and we must stop killing each other, stop polluting the earth, stop raping the earths natural resources and learn to live in harmony with one another. President Eisenhower rejected these demands.

    Later in 1954 the race of aliens, known as Greys, from Zeta Reticuli area in space, who had been orbiting the equator, landed at Holloman Air Force base. they stated their planet was dying and needed quarters on earth to conduct genetic experiments that might allow their race to survive; this in exchange for certain technology. President Eisenhower met with the aliens and a formal treaty was signed. The treaty stated the aliens would not interfere
    in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth secret; they would furnish us with advanced technology. They could abduct humans on a limited basis for the purpose of medical
    examination and monitoring, with the stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, would be returned to their point of abduction, that the humans have no memory of the event. It was also agreed the alien bases would be
    constructed underground, beneath Indian reservations in the 4 corners area of Utah, New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado. Another was to be constructed in Nevada in the area known as S-4, about 7 miles south of area 51, known as 'Dreamland'. A multi-billion dollar secret fund was organized and kept by the Military Office of the White House, supposedly to build secret underground sites for the President and the staff in case of military attacks.

    By secret Executive Memorandum, NSC5410, Eisenhower established a permanent committee known as "Majority Twelve" (MJ12) to oversee and conduct all covert activities with the aliens. This included FBI director J. Edgar Hoover and six leaders of the 'Council on Foreign Relations, known as the 'Wise Men' and later others from the Trilateral Commision. George Bush, Gordon Dean, and Brzezinski were among them.

    A major finding of the commission was the aliens were using humans and animals for a source on glandular secretions, enzymes, hormonal secretions, blood and in horrible genetic experiments. The aliens explained these actions as necessary for their survival, that if their genetic structure were not improved, their race would cease to exist.

    The ruling powers decided that one means of funding the alien project was to corner the illegal drug market. A young ambitious member of the Council on Foreign Relations was approached. His name is George Bush who at the time was president and CEO of Zapata Oil Co. based in Texas. Zapata Oil was experimenting with offshore oil drilling and it was arranged that the drugs could be shipped from South America to the offshore platforms by fishing
    boats, then transferred to the U.S. shore by normal transportation, thus avoiding search by customs agents. The plan worked better than anyone expected, and today the CIA controls all the world's illegal drug markets.
    One should remember, it was George Bush who first started selling drugs to our children. The drug money was used to finance the deep underground alien bases.

    Conclusions: the Bilderburgers, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commision are the SECRET GOVERNMENT and rule this nation through MJ-12 and the study group known as the Jason Society.

    Throughout history the aliens have manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religion and the occult. The CFR and the Trilateral Commision are in complete control of the alien technology and the
    nation's economy. Eisenhower was the last president to know the entire overview of the alien problem. Succeeding presidents were told only what MJ-12 wanted them to know, and it was NOT the truth. MJ-12 presented each
    new president with a picture of a lost alien culture seeking to renew itself, build a home on this planet and shower us with gifts of technology. Each president has bought the story hook, line, and sinker. Meanwhile, innocent people continue to suffer unspeakable horrors at the hands of alien and human scientists who are engaged in barbarous research that would make the Nazis pale in comparison. As if that is not enough, many people end up as food for
    the insatiable alien appetite for biological enzymes, hormonal secretions and blood. At least 1 in every 40 Americans have been implanted with alien devices that are used to control them if necessity calls.

    By 1989 over 3 million 'Greys' are occupying these deep multi-level underground complexes. Level 7 at Dulce is called "Nightmare Hall". They have welched on their agreement on abducting humans; today over 25 million
    citizens have been abducted and implanted, a literal army awaiting orders to march! (Whitley Strieber has written best selling on his personal experience as have many others). For this reason other nations were informed. Within 5
    months the communist monolith Russia was dismantled to unite with the U.S. and it's technology to fight the invasion. The Hubble Space Telescope was created to keep a watchful eye on the invasion fleet; Star Wars technology has been developed to hopefully stop them in outer space before they can get to the earth.

    Today, the government is on the horns of a dilemma. Too may sources are releasing alien information. The public could get angry at continued secrecy. So MJ-12 plans soon to make an "Official" announcement, under
    controlled conditions, probably Area 51. Network TV will be called to meet the staged 'landing' of the aliens, these being the Greys. They will come bearing gifts, technology that supposedly will heal Cancer and AIDS, retard
    aging, etc. They will tell us they are 'saviors of humanity' who have come to defend the earth against an invasion of man-eating aliens called Reptoids.

    This story is a LIE, they already work for the Reptoids! Their plan is to unify the world into a One-world Government, a 'New World Order' with the argument that only this can defeat the invasion by Reptoids. This is a trap to enslave the world's population. Control will be accomplished through the money system, a universal currency controlled by certain international bankers, who for years have been lackeys of the aliens, who seized upon their greed and lust for wealth and power as a means to bring about their evil plan to control the earth. (This also being the scenario predicted in the Bible's 'Book of Revelation' wherein only those who accept the Mark of the Beast (the aliens being the 'Beast' and the 'Mark' being some sort of laser tattoo or Credit Card they will use, which will allow people to buy and sell goods). Those who do not accept this 'Mark' must live outside the money system and survive somehow on their own, through barter etc.
     
  3. Phil Schneider's lecture of 1995

    "It is because of the horrendous structure of the federal government that I feel directly imperiled not to tell anybody about this material. How long I will be able to do this is anybody's guess. However, I would like to mention that this talk is going to be broken up into four main topics. Each of these topics will have some bearing on what you people are involved in, whether you are patriots or not.
    "I want you to know that these United States are a beautiful place. I have gone to more than 70 countries, and I cannot remember any country that has the beauty, as well as the magnificence of its people, like these United States.

    "To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went through engineering school. Half of my school was in that field and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico. I was involved in 1979 in a firefight with alien humanoids, and I was one of the survivors. I'm probably the only talking survivor you will ever hear. Two other survivors are under close guard. I am the only one left that knows the detailed files of the entire operation. Sixty-six secret service agents, FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that firefight. I was there.

    "Number one, part of what I am going to tell you is going to be very shocking. Part of what I am going to tell you is probably going to be very unbelievable, though, instead of putting your glasses on, I'm going to ask you to put your "skepticals" on. But please, feel free to do your own homework. I know the Freedom of Information Act isn't much to go on, but it's the best we've got. The local law library is a good place to look for Congressional Records. So, if one continues to do their homework, then one can be standing vigilant in regard to their country.

    Deep Underground Military Bases and the Black Budget

    "I love the country I am living in more than I love my life, but I would not be standing before you now, risking my life, if I did not believe it was so. The first part of this talk is going to concern deep underground military bases and the black budget. The Black Budget is a secretive budget that garners 25% of the gross national product of the United States. The Black Budget currently consumes $1.25 trillion per year. At least this amount is used in black programs, like those concerned with deep underground military bases. Presently, there are 129 deep underground military bases in the United States.

    "They have been building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early 1940's. Some of them were built even earlier than that. These bases are basically large cities underground connected by high-speed magneto-leviton trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. Several books have been written about this activity. Al Bielek has my only copy of one of them. Richard Souder, a Ph.D. architect, has risked his life by talking about this. He worked with a number of government agencies on deep underground military bases. In around where you live, in Idaho, there are 11 of them.

    "The average depth of these bases is over a mile, and they again are basically whole cities underground. They all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. They have laser-drilling machines that can drill a tunnel seven miles long in one day. The Black Projects side-step the authority of Congress, which as we know is illegal. Right now, the New World Order is depending on these bases. If I had known at the time I was working on them that the NWO was involved, I would not have done it. I was lied to rather extensively.

    Development of Military Technology, Implied German Interest in Hyperspacial Technology
    "Basically, as far as technology is concerned, for every calendar year that transpires, military technology increases about 44.5 years. This is why it is easy to understand that back in 1943 they were able to create, through the use of vacuum tube technology, a ship that could literally disappear from one place and appear in another place. My father, Otto Oscar Schneider, fought on both sides of the war. He was originally a U-boat captain, and was captured and repatriated in the United States. He was involved with different kinds of concerns, such as the A-bomb, the H-bomb and the Philadelphia Experiment. He invented a high-speed camera that took pictures of the first atomic tests at Bikini Island on July 12, 1946. I have original photographs of that test, and the photos also show UFO's fleeing the bombsite at a high rate of speed. Bikini Island at the time was infested with them, especially under the water, and the natives had problems with their animals being mutilated. At that time, General MacArthur felt that the next war would be with aliens from other worlds.

    "Anyway, my father laid the groundwork with theoreticians about the Philadelphia experiment, as well as other experiments. What does that have to do with me? Nothing, other than the fact that he was my father. I don't agree with what he did on the other side, but I think he had a lot of guts in coming here. He was hated in Germany. There was a $1 million reward, payable in gold, to anyone who killed him. Obviously, they didn't succeed. Anyway, back to our topic - deep underground bases.

    The Fire Fight At Dulce Base

    "Back in 1954, under the Eisenhower administration, the federal government decided to circumvent the Constitution of the United States and form a treaty with alien entities. It was called the 1954 Greada Treaty, which basically made the agreement that the aliens involved could take a few cows and test their implanting techniques on a few human beings, but that they had to give details about the people involved. Slowly, the aliens altered the bargain until they decided they wouldn't abide by it at all. Back in 1979, this was the reality, and the firefight at Dulce occurred quite by accident. I was involved in building an addition to the deep underground military base at Dulce, which is probably the deepest base. It goes down seven levels and over 2.5 miles deep. At that particular time, we had drilled four distinct holes in the desert, and we were going to link them together and blow out large sections at a time.

    My job was to go down the holes and check the rock samples, and recommend the explosive to deal with the particular rock. As I was headed down there, we found ourselves amidst a large cavern that was full of outer-space aliens, otherwise known as large Greys. I shot two of them. At that time, there were 30 people down there. About 40 more came down after this started, and all of them got killed. We had surprised a whole underground base of existing aliens. Later, we found out that they had been living on our planet for a long time, perhaps a million years. This could explain a lot of what is behind the theory of ancient astronauts.

    "Anyway, I got shot in the chest with one of their weapons, which was a box on their body, that blew a hole in me and gave me a nasty dose of cobalt radiation. I have had cancer because of that.

    "I didn't get really interested in UFO technology until I started work at Area 51, north of Las Vegas. After about two years recuperating after the 1979 incident, I went back to work for Morrison and Knudson, EG&G and other companies. At Area 51, they were testing all kinds of peculiar spacecraft. How many people here are familiar with Bob Lazar's story? He was a physicist working at Area 51 trying to decipher the propulsion factor in some of these craft.

    Schneider's Worries About Government Factions, Railroad Cars and Shackle Contracts

    "Now, I am very worried about the activity of the federal government. They have lied to the public, stonewalled senators, and have refused to tell the truth in regard to alien matters. I can go on and on. I can tell you that I am rather disgruntled. Recently, I knew someone who lived near where I live in Portland, Oregon. He worked at Gunderson Steel Fabrication, where they make railroad cars. Now, I knew this fellow for the better part of 30 years, and he was kind of a quiet type. He came in to see me one day, excited, and he told me "they're building prisoner cars." He was nervous. Gunderson, he said, had a contract with the federal government to build 107,200 full-length railroad cars, each with 143 pairs of shackles. There are 11 sub-contractors in this giant project. Supposedly, Gunderson got over 2 billion dollars for the contract. Bethlehem Steel and other steel outfits are involved. He showed me one of the cars in the rail yards in North Portland. He was right. If you multiply 107,200 times 143 times 11, you come up with about 15,000,000. This is probably the number of people who disagree with the federal government. No more can you vote any of these people out of office. Our present structure of government is "technocracy", not democracy, and it is a form of feudalism. It has nothing to do with the republic of the United States. These people are god-less, and have legislated out prayer in public schools. You can get fined up to $100,000 and two years in prison for praying in school. I believe we can do better. I also believe that the federal government is running the gambit of enslaving the people of the United States. I am not a very good speaker, but I'll keep shooting my mouth off until somebody puts a bullet in me, because it's worth it to talk to a group like this about these atrocities.

    America's Black Program Contractors

    "There are other problems. I have some interesting 1993 figures. There are 29 prototype stealth aircraft presently. The budget from the U.S. Congress five-year plan for these is $245.6 million. You couldn't buy the spare parts for these black programs for that amount. So, we've been lied to. The black budget is roughly $1.3 trillion every two years. A trillion is a thousand billion. A trillion dollars weighs 11 tons. The U.S. Congress never sees the books involved with this clandestine pot of gold. Contractors of sleuth programs: EG&G, Westinghouse, McDonnell Douglas, Morrison- Knudson, Wackenhut Security Systems, Boeing Aerospace, Lorimar Aerospace, Aerospacial in France, Mitsibishi Industries, Rider Trucks, Bechtel, *I.G. Farben*, plus a host of hundreds more. Is this what we are supposed to be living up to as freedom- loving people? I don't believe so.

    Star Wars and Apparent Alien Threat

    "Still, 68% of the military budget is directly or indirectly affected by the black budget. Star Wars relies heavily upon stealth weaponry. By the way, none of the stealth program would have been available if we had not taken apart crashed alien disks. None of it. Some of you might ask what the "space shuttle" is "shuttling". Large ingots of special metals that are milled in space and cannot be produced on the surface of the earth. They need the near vacuum of outer space to produce them. We are not even being told anything close to the truth. I believe our government officials have sold us down the drain - lock, stock and barrel. Up until several weeks ago, I was employed by the U.S. government with a Ryolite-38 clearance factor - one of the highest in the world. I believe the Star Wars program is there solely to act as a buffer to prevent alien attack - it has nothing to do with the "cold war", which was only a toy to garner money from all the people - for what? The whole lie was planned and executed for the last 75 years.

    Stealth Aircraft Technology Use by U.S. Agencies and the United Nations

    "Here's another piece of information for you folks. The Drug Enforcement Administration and the ATF rely on stealth tactical weaponry for as much as 40% of their operations budget. This in 1993 and the figures have gone up considerably since. The United Nations used American stealth aircraft for over 28% of its collective world-wide operations from 1990 to 1992, according to the Center for Strategic Studies and UN Report 3092.

    The Guardians of Stealth and Delta Force Origins of the Bosnia Conflict

    "The Guardians of Stealth: There are at least three distinct classifications of police that guard our most well kept secrets. Number one, the Military Joint Tactical Force (MJTF), sometimes called the Delta Force or Black Berets, is a multi-national tactical force primarily used to guard the various stealth aircraft worldwide. By the way, there were 172 stealth aircraft built. Ten crashed, so there were at last count about 162. Bill Clinton signed them away about six weeks ago to the United Nations. There have been indications that the Delta Force was sent over to Bosnia during the last days of the Bush administration as a covert sniper force, and that they started taking pot shots at each side of the controversy, in order to actually start the Bosnia conflict that would be used by succeeding administrations for political purposes.

    Thoughts on the Bombings in the United States

    "I was hired not too long ago to do a report on the World Trade Center bombing. I was hired because I know about the 90 some- odd varieties of chemical explosives. I looked at the pictures taken right after the blast. The concrete was puddled and melted. The steel was literally extruded up to six feet longer than its original length. There is only one weapon that can do that - a small nuclear weapon. That's a construction-type nuclear device. Obviously, when they say that it was a nitrate explosive that did the damage, they're lying 100%, folks. The people they have in custody probably didn't do the crime. As a matter of fact, I have reason to believe that the same group held in custody did do other crimes, such as killing a Jewish rabbi in New York.

    However, I want to further mention that with the last explosion in Oklahoma City, they are saying that it was a nitrate or fertilizer bomb that did it. "First, they came out and said it was a 1,000 pound fertilizer bomb. Then, it was 1,500. Then 2,000 pounds. Now its 20,000. You can't put 20,000 pounds of fertilizer in a Rider Truck. Now, I've never mixed explosives, per se. I know the chemical structure and the application of construction explosives. My reputation was based on it. I helped hollow out more than 13 deep underground military bases in the United States. I worked on the Malta project, in West Germany, in Spain and in Italy. I can tell you from experience that a nitrate explosion would have hardly shattered the windows of the federal building in Oklahoma City. It would have killed a few people and knocked part of the facing off the building, but it would have never have done that kind of damage. I believe I have been lied to, and I am not taking it any longer, so I'm telling you that you've been lied to.

    The Truth behind the Republican Contract with America

    "I don't perceive at this time that we have too much more than six months of life left in this country, at the present rate. We are the laughing stock of the world, because we are being hoodwinked by so many evil people that are running this country. I think we can do better. I think the people over 45 are seriously worried about their future. I'm going to run some scary scenarios by you. The Contract with America. It contains the same terminology that Adolph Hitler used to subvert Germany in 1931. I believe we can do better. The Contract with America is a last ditch effort by our federal government to tear away the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    Some Statistics on the Black Helicopter Presence

    "The black helicopters. There are over 64,000 black helicopters in the United States. For every hour that goes by, there is one being built. Is this the proper use of our money? What does the federal government need 64,000 tactical helicopters for, if they are not trying to enslave us. I doubt if the entire military needs 64,000 worldwide. I doubt if all the world needs that many. There are 157 F-117A stealth aircraft loaded with LIDAR and computer-enhanced imaging radar. They can see you walking from room to room when they fly over your house. They see objects in the house from the air with a variation limit of 1 inch to 30,000 miles. That's how accurate that is. Now, I worked in the federal government for a long time, and I know exactly how they handle their business.

    Government Earthquake Device, AIDS as a Bioweapon Based on Alien Excretions

    "The federal government has now invented an earthquake device. I am a geologist, and I know what I am talking about. With the Kobe earthquake in Japan, there was no pulse-wave as in a normal earthquake. None. In 1989, there was an earthquake in San Francisco. There was no pulse wave with that one either. It is a Tesla device that is being used for evil purposes. The black budget programs have subverted science as we know it. Look at AIDs, invented by the National Ordinance Laboratory in Chicago, Illinois in 1972. It was a biological weapon to be used against the people of the United States. The reason I know this is that I have seen the documentation by the Office of Strategic Services, which by the way is still in operation to this day, through the CDC in Atlanta. They used the glandular excretions of animals, humans and alien humanoids to create the virus. These alien humanoids the government is hobnobbing with are the worst news. There is absolutely no defense against their germs - none. They are a biological weapon of terrible consequence. Every alien on the planet needs to be isolated.

    "Saddam Hussein killed 3.5 million Kurdish people with a similar biological weapon. Do we, the people of this planet, deserve this? No, we don't, but we are not doing anything about it. Every moment we waste, we are doing other people on the planet a disservice. Right now, I am dying of cancer that I contracted because of my work for the federal government. I might live six months. I might not. I will tell you one thing. If I keep speaking out like I am, maybe God will give me the life to talk my head off. I will break every law that it takes to talk my head off. Eleven of my best friends in the last 22 years have been murdered. Eight of the murders were called "suicides." Before I went to talk in Las Vegas, I drove a friend down to Joshua Tree, near 29 Palms. I drove into the mountains in order to get to Needles, California, and I was followed by two government E-350 vans with G-14 plates, each with a couple of occupants, one of which had an Uzi. I knew exactly who they were. I have spoken 19 times and have probably reached 45,000 people. Well, I got ahead of them and came to a stop in the middle of the road. They both went on either side of me and down a ravine. Is this what its going to take? I cut up my security card and sent it back to the government, and told them if I was threatened, and I have been, that I was going to upload 140,000 pages of documentation to the Internet about government structure and the whole plan. I have already begun that task."

    "Thank you very much."

    End of May 1995 Lecture.



    Shortly after this lecture, Phil was found dead in his apartment with a piano wire wrapped around his neck.
     
  4. Tinfoil hat time again?

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    Well, quite frankly whether anyone likes it or not, the rabbit hole truly does go quite deep. Anyone who's worked an office should know just how corrupt most places are, I mean, I worked in a tiny dept of a school for a while and even there there was all sorts of secret motives and junk. Not like gossip stuff but like fake bids for contracts, dangerous conditiotions with *serious* threats to the safety of thousands of students (malfunctioning elevators, for example, who the head of our uni is in cahoots with the public safety dept or whathave you and had them "turn the other way"). And there's been those kinds of things everywhere I've worked. So it wouldn't suprise me if these things went on on some larger scale.

    That said, I think most of the stuff on the Masons is BS. There are a finite number of ways to do things and you can manipulate XYZ and other shit all you want to get stuff. It's fun and all but I highly doubt almost any of it is true.
     
  5. too much credit, i say, for all the numbers. there may indeed be many occurances of such numbers, maybe even some mentioned above, that have nothing to do with them whatsoever.
     
  6. the numbers 9 and 11 anyone?
     
  7. if anyone here believes all that bullshit about the numbers, i suggest you watch the movie Pi.

    there is a very important message, if you look for a certain sequence of numbers in life, then you will eventually find it. but it will appear to you only becuase you were looking for it, not because it has any significance.
     
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  8. True that, scoobs.

    I've read a couple books about this though, there is some pretty interesting and significant correlations or connections or whatever you'll call it.

    Definatley an interesting subject.
     
  9. oh yea, im not saying there is zero cred to this...but when they are doing dumbass equations using any number just to come up with the acronyms for government associations, thats just sillyness.
     
  10. my uncle's a freemason but he'll never tell me shit. i asked him the other day a question about the illuminati and he claimed he never heard of them.
     
  11. conspiracy theories are bullshit!
     
  12. I know a headshop owner who wears a free mason ring. My good friend Shaggy found Free Mason encyclopedias in a dumpster, he traded them with Brian for some glass. Interesting subject indeed. Good thread.
     
  13. Yeah I know someone who will become a freemason in the near future, he doesn't know anything about it (like we do), but all he wants is that damn ring! HAHA.

    Seriously, I never payed attention to freemason in school, I remember thinking 'why is he talking about brick layers?!'.

    I saw the phil schneider video, it was interesting indeed. I don't doubt his story, I know the govt is fucked up, way too corrupted to be ever fixed.

    I have scientist friend who tells me that the govt. is working on reducing the population, but no details. I'm starting to hear about population control way too much nowadays.
     
  14. Good insight, I like the refuting evidence. Did you even attempt to read any of the above information?
     

  15. Yea, numerology can be interesting but it's really nothing more than an entertaining game to play IMO. See what you can correlate and whatnot, but some people take it VERY seriousely and it's kind of sad.
     
  16. Holy Shit.

    2+3=5, 5 is the day i was born and also a holiday in Mexico. HOLY SHIT I CALL GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY.
     
  17. Believe it or not, I'm a freemason.
     
  18. i dont think the free masons are evil, i mean they founded the us right? woo democracy...
     
  19. interesting read, if nothing else....
     

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