Jewish self-righteousness is taken for granted among ourselves to such an extent that we fail to see what's right in front of our eyes. It's simply inconceivable that the ultimate victims, the Jews, can carry out evil deeds. Nevertheless, the state of Israel practises its own, quite violent, form of Apartheid with the native Palestinian population. The government of Israel practises a brutal form of Apartheid in the territory it occupies. Its army has turned every Palestinian village and town into a fenced-in, or blocked-in, detention camp. All this is done in order to keep an eye on the population's movements and to make its life difficult. Israel even imposes a total curfew whenever the settlers, who have illegally usurped the Palestinians' land, celebrate their holidays or conduct their parades. Shulamit Aloni: Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel This article was penned by Shulamit Aloni the former Education Minister of Israel. She has been awarded both the Israel Prize and the Emil Grunzweig Human Rights Award by the Association for Civil Rights in Israel. Apartheid is alive and well in Israel today. There are "Jew only" roads on which Palestinians cannot drive or they face having their vehicle taken off them by the IDF. When questioned an Israeli soldier replied "It is his responsibility to know it, and besides, what do you want us to do, put up a sign here and let some antisemitic reporter or journalist take a photo so he that can show the world that Apartheid exists here?" Why is the US government financing and supporting apartheid in 2010 ?
Sure is man... Barry Obama could sort this mess out very easily by putting pressure on the Israeli government to resolve the conflict. Force them to man up and make peace with the Palestinian people instead of bullying and abusing them. You have to ask the question also what does Israel give to the US ? The US gives billion after billion every year and all it gets in return is grief. Bin Laden has stated on numerous occasions that US support of Israel is one of the main reasons behind his war against the US. Solve the problem and save a lot of American lives. Cut off Israel or make them clean up their act. There is no place for apartheid in 2010 and certainly not US financed apartheid.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ac1SnQfOfw]YouTube - Inside Story - Israeli apartheid week[/ame]
Yea, but the threads never go anywhere. Both sides are too emotionally involved to ever make a compromise. It's why I never post in 'em.
That video is the shit I swear the hypocrisy from the Jewish side is just fuckin amazing every time they are criticized its anti-semitic this anti-semitic that. Great roundtable man I've lived in America too long I was beginning to think people couldn't have civilized discussion about such heated important topics like this. Kudos for shedding the light man masha allah
Doesn't it remind you of Nazi Germany's treatment of the Jews before they sent them to extermination camps? Strikingly similar...
Yup but we're supposed to excuse that because the Holocaust happened to them. I swear to God it really really really REALLY makes me think the Holocaust MIGHT have been slightly if not exxagerated because of how everything becomes anti-semitic when Israel is under ANY form of criticism. ANY form it really makes me wonder man. And of course I will be called anti-semitic for this but thats fine, at this point I'm willing to take it because I already know its far away from the fact but oh well. I will however not subject myself to be burdened by the ill-conceived perceptions of others
Exactly, I was arguing with a Israel supporting Zionist and when I had him backed into a corner with no where else to go he started calling me an anti Semite and a racist.
Thats what the argument always comes down to which is why its not even a smart idea to argue that argument in the first place if it isn't with an unbiased intellectual but seriously all I'm gonna say is the Jews have been oppressed since the times of a Pharaoh, if thats even true, but my point is if the same shit keeps happening to you time and time again maybe its not the people around you, maybe its you
Why does the notion that Zionists may be quick to jump to claims of antisemitism make you inclined to believe that the Holocaust wasn't as bad as historical accounts suggest? Not calling you an ansti-semite but I don't really follow your logic.
Are you suggesting that long-term persecution to a particular section of society is probably warranted?
We're talking about the people we argue this against always jump to the conclusion always overreacting and exaggerating what is for saying every criticism is anti-semitic. I'm coming from the camp of where have I seen this before? Notice how careful my wording is in the previous paragraph. Now with what I just quoted from what I said earlier, people weren't born with some jew hating dna but like for every action there is consequence. WHY have the jews been subjected to long-term persecution is my question? Are we just supposed to sympathize and say the actions against them were not somehow brought onto themselves pre-WW2? This is all I ask. If everyone hates someone, its because of what that person has done to them, doing to them and will continue to do to them if a stance isn't procured. WHY have the jews been subject to long term persecution minus the bible stories oh the pharaoh hates us shit. Really, WHY have they been subjugated to such long term abuse?
I didn't know they let nazis on grasscity! Well, the reason we Jews have been persecuted is really because we've been eating your children and spreading the plague. I am coming out to you about the truth right now. You called our big Jew bluff man... in truth, you're absolutely right, we have been picked on for a reason! Heil Hitler! PS, we didn't just exagerate the holocaust, as you're claiming , we just made the whole thing up!
Thanks for proving my point. Anyways I've said what I've needed to say, let the out of proportionate arguments begin!