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Ingesting Rick Simpson's "Hemp Oil"

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by clinton, Sep 11, 2010.


  1. Thanx Clinton... I thought thats what you were saying. So, after being on the oil for a few months it would take awhile for one's system to clear out so they could enjoy the high again. I like to use it for trancing purposes but I am fine without the high for a few months. Thanx for sharing.
     
  2. The high is definitely good, but when you are sick and in horrible pain, just escpaing from that is better than any high you could ever obtain. If I was in that position, I'd do the oil for awhile and once I was better would take a T-break. Although you can't get high from smoking or vaporizing during that period, I'm pretty sure you can still get high from the oil as long as you take enough.
     
  3. drugs cant stop my seizures.....
    a lobotomy did not stop them......

    i was taking this stuff for awile.....and was good....ran out (i think-i am guessing here cus when i read i had been taking it....i couldnt find it anywhere?) and well
    i never have just one seizure.....as some of you already know...i have every kind there is.....most of that story is here http://forum.grasscity.com/general/437616-brain-sergery-not-rockit-sceince.html
    i go into what is called "status seizure" which means i have them non stop for hours or days and at times months......when i came too....i could not remember the last few months....had to read up on my life here actually......

    it is an interesting life to say the least!

    but this shit worked better then the meds the docs have....
    without the side effects of what the docs give you...
    Complex Partial Seizures Present Diagnostic Challenge - Psychiatric Times




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  4. That is some really interesting information about the seizures. Illustrates the problems the medical industry has in diagnosing things all the time.
     
  5. I realize ingesting hemp oil is effective for treating cancers, but is purifying the material necessary as long as you ingest the suggested amount? For example if one needs to ingest 3 oz in a period of two months, could you not just make cannabutter with the lb and ingest the cannabutter instead of the oil?
     
  6. It is extremely interesting that you bring this up today, because the answer is yes! My aunt's meditation teacher has prostate cancer and was unable to attain oil to treat it. So he ingested massive amounts of cannabutter instead, and just today I got the news that his tumor has reduced substantially. I had heard of cannabutter working in two instances besides this one; one case curing terminal cancer, and another with skin cancer. So that's three cancers cannabutter has shown to be effective with, so I'm apt to say go ahead with it.

    But if you can get your hands on oil, do that, as it is definitely better.
     
  7. The power is in the Cannabis! Not matter what method one uses, it will help if you get it in your body! :hello:
     
  8. Thanks for confirming. I am only 19 years of age, but I am confident that I have mouth cancer. There are white patches on my bottom lip, and under my tongue there is a white pouch that is sore around the area. I recently slowed down smoking about a week or two ago, and I've always had this white sackish type thing under my tongue, but I am suspicious that stopping my persistent use has attributed to the rapid growth of it. I also have very clogged sinus's and they've been like this for around 6-10 months, but throughout the whole time I've been smoking lots of cannabis along with blunts, and cigarettes. I've quit smoking altogether and only vaporize and use edibles now because my throat was starting to get very sore after smoking and I would cough just about every time I took a hit. Other symptoms include a bulging sensation of my eyes, pains in my ears and head, fullness of my throat, the lymph nodes in my neck are swollen, and just recently my mouth started becoming sore. When I look up my nose it looks as though there are pink masses clogging my nostrils. I've been to the dentist, she say's there is nothing abnormal about my mouth and that this is just me discovering my anatomy, but this was before I stopped my frequent use. My physician thought it could be hay fever, and prescribed me anti-histamines for allergy-like symptoms and they didn't help at all. After a week of those I wen't to the E.R and the doctor there diagnosed me with acute sinusitis. He also prescribed me anti-biotics along with some anti-histamines. I've tooken all of them and they did not help. I have an appointment with a nose/ears/throat specialist on tuesday and am hoping he can actually diagnose me with something so I can fix it. The anticipation is killing meeeee.
     
  9. Phantom: I sure am glad I found this thread AND the reference to cannabutter! I have been making the butter from just leaves (and sometimes a bit of shake) as per the Hashmouf's recipe, and was originally stunned at the potency from merely using sucker and mid-cycle trim leaves, and like a great many people who have been making/doing edibles, I very rarely smoke much anymore since the butter is (euphorically) so much better. I went through a year of chemo for Hep-C, which did nothing more than nearly kill me, destroy many aspects of my "Q of L" PERMANENTLY, and also resulted in my becoming diabetic.

    I became an MMJ patient and was authorized way back in 2000, and although I am "grandfathered" to the new authorization cards that have expiration dates, I've found that most dispensaries refuse to recognize my original authorization papers, and try to make me pay somewhere between 200-300 dollars to get "their" cards. Uh-huh. Yeah, like SSI pays enough for me to afford that, especially with the current economy.

    This year my outdoor grow is fast failing due to the very late start of planting weather, and the very early start of nothing but 68 degrees + weather combined with a 90% humidity rate, so mildew and mold is becoming more and more of a problem. However this could be a blessing in disguise, as I will not have enough to even think about using a pound of bud. So, while reading through this thread, I'm going to check out the Ms. Banda method, and/or use what I am able to salvage before the mildew and mold become systemic to try her method and make more buzzbutter.

    about a year ago, I found out my glucose meter was not working properly (after getting a "free" offer for a new meter, and realized that my blood sugars had been running between 430-480 for at least three month's (I lost my doctor due to his having lost his medicaid contract during an audit) and finally found another doc who nine months ago did some blood work and found my A1c levels to be 12.7! Three month's later (though he said not to expect much change) to be 9.2, and on the 17th of this month the A1c had dropped to 6.1!!! FAR, far too much change to attribute to just a once daily insulin shot. Also my blood pressure was 122/62, and I dropped from 257 pound back to 202! And this was with occasional buzzbutter use.

    I am going to try to use the twice a day method for the next three months, and see if there is any change in the viral load from the Hep-C, further normalization of the diabetes issue and all else.

    Anyway before I ramble on, I just wanted to thank you guys for the new info, and applaud your efforts in helping so many people. If your OMMC place does recognize the original authorization forms, I would love to drive to (Portland?) and talk with you further.

    In closing I also agree that even though the U.S. as a whole has absolutely NO interest in actually curing the many illnesses that the HO has been proven to cure, and actively tries to block this information, the world-wide awareness of the medicinal properties of cannabis has now reached such proportion, that it CANNOT be contained by our so-called "mainstream media."

    One Love,

    Vinny :wave:
     
  10. Hey, all...sorry about re-posting but as usual, by "skim reading" I missed the fact that it's clinton who lives in Oregon, but the same applies to all who are spreading the word and helping so many.

    Vinny
     
  11. I hope that you find some relief, Vintendo, through the use of the cannabutter. If you do happen to come across a way to get oil that would be preferable, but this stuff definitely works too.
     
  12. Just found this site and this thread. I am very interested in using Rick's oil and particularly if I can find a way to get it so I do NOT get high! Odd yes? Anyhoo, couple questions along those lines:

    First, Clinton, wondering if you really don't get high or are just really stoned all the time and have gotten used to it? Maybe you can't tell? If you can that would be interesting to know.

    The other thing, my main question really, is that recently some clubs/dispensaries etc have been carrying a high CBD product, that is supposed to have much much less "high" but all the medical benes. I am very curious as to why no one has brought out an extract from industrial hemp? From all I have read, it is reliably high in CBD and has low to almost no THC. Seems like it would be ideal for a non-high inducing medicine. Anyone know anything about this possibility? If you live where you can get a card and grow your own, a few seeds and voila! Industrial hemp can grow some mighty big plants. I guess not much in the way of buds or flowers but plenty of leaves to extract from...
     
  13. I have heard of people wanting to mix industrial hemp with buds for the extra CBD but I've never heard of anyone actually doing it. It would be interesting to see what happened, as I do believe that could be effective. But I'm not sure how industrial hemp fairs in the other cannabinoids, and since there is virtually no THC in it I'm not sure how effective it would be alone, as you definitely need at least some to get a good medical benefit.

    I'm not sure how DrStrange got banned after one post so fast but that's kind of interesting...
     
  14. Thanks, Phantom. All I know is I was making the butter and only using it once a day or so for a few weeks and suddenly all the signs of glaucoma were gone, they eye pressure was cut more than 50%, my blood pressure went dead perfect 120/60 and as a diabetic, my blood glucose levels were well within the normal range! Also it took care of the neuropathy pain in my back and legs to a great degree, and the weird thing is that other than this other weird med they have me on I am trying to quit because it's REALLY messin' me up, I haven't changed anything significant in my lifestyle to account for these medical results EXCEPT the butter.

    This got me to thinking about the pharmakokinetics of the Delta-nine isomers and the OTHER alkaloids and the results of various temperatures on the oxidization of the various plant biochemistries due to HEAT since some are more "delicate" than others, and catalyze from heat either into "nothing" or change to some inert gas. Simpson's Oil is made using Naphtha as a solvent. Although he "sped up" the process with fans and electric heaters, Naphtha is such a high-grade solvent it's actually "boiling" (evaporating) at room temperature. I wonder if the less heat, the higher survivability of the "delicate" "healing chemical properties" of the resulting oil?

    Hmm...I wonder if I could get a grant to check that out in a "Double-Blind Study Testing Medicinal Efficacy At Alternate Oxidation Rates Controlled By Exposure To Varied Temperature, With 'Triple-Blind' Placebo Control".

    Damn! that sounds fuckin' impressive! Or else I ate too much butter...lol. I just noticed it creepin' up on me. Dang! I made some butter that a half a "pat" is a bit too euphoric for me. I was used to about a teaspoon being just right, no euphoria, just an elevation of mood primarily due to chronic pain blunted or gone. Did a teaspoon of this one and ended up walking to bed with my lips and then being stuck there for about 14 hours! LOL! Never had it come out like THAT before! So as to the "hemp plants" having the same chemical groups as the sativa or indica varieties, I don't believe so since the hemp plants were engineered to have very little resin-to-fiber ratio. To avoid the euphoria (and I fully understand you're reasoning Braddah, cause there are times I don't want to be "high" and have to deal with certain issues) all you need to do it "test-drive" a piece of the Oil or whatever form, then adjust the dosage accordingly. I do it all the time as a journalist. "Kinda" gotta play The Game...but since my rep is pretty much like Hunter Thompson anyway I don't sweat it unless there's like a corporate board meeting or some stuff. It's only the test-drive that's an adventure....LOL!

    Peace.

    Vin :bolt:
     
  15. Wow! They DID ban Dr. Strange awful fast....now I'm worried that I tossed a little common sense his way. Could the Mod please explain why?

    <looks over both shoulders...shiver runs down back>
     

  16. If you taker any medication - most of the time, you need to build up a dosage that treats your problem without knocking you on your ass. I am cannabis rich and have unlimited access to all forms of medications produced from cannabis - so I am always medicated.

    It is true the "stone" is lost, but the relief I get from ingesting Hemp Oil makes it a tiny loss.

    Test for yourself.

    clinton
     
  17. Being out of pain after being in it for so long is a greater high than any drug can ever provide. Period.
     
  18. I don't know if this has been stated yet, but cannabis has been proven to help cancer and tumor patients. Not only because it eases pain, but also because it stems blood flow to the cancer regions. Cannabinoids halt cancer growth by producing a chemical called Ceramide.

    This disrupts the VEGF (vascular endothelial growth factor ) production and will cause the cancer cells to disappear.
     

  19. Good point - but this is the source of long dead threads - it does - it does not.

    Personal experience will settle the argument - so many debate out of ignorance.

    clinton
     

  20. Hmm I'll have to do more research into the topic then.




    I see you're from Oregon. Where abouts?
     

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