Downshift's Cheapest, Easiest Micro Scrubber on the Net! ~$6 per filter!

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  1. #1 DownShift, Apr 20, 2010
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    This is a carbon filter that mounts on an 80mm exhaust fan commonly used in micro and PC grows. It is about as easy as I have found anywhere and has 100% eliminated the odor coming from my box! (update: only for a couple of days, as it is already starting to smell again... jd4083 was absolutely correct that this is a temporary fix at best. I'm not sure if the filters started to wear out really fast or if my plant just started stinking a lot more in the last couple days, but she's smellin up the room again.)

    The Problem:


    She's startin to smell a little TOO good! :eek:

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    I have my fan positioned in such a way that a traditional carbon filter would be too difficult to connect to it. (At least for someone of my limited engineering abilities:D) I wanted a small carbon filter inside the box that would easily mount to my 80mm computer fan exhaust.
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    Then all of a sudden I got an idea! :smoking:

    I needed the following items:

    1. A hot glue gun:
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    2. A box of carbon filters for an air purifier. I got these at Target and they cost around $10. It comes with 4 filter sheets, and I only needed 2 for this filter so I'll have a refill sitting around!
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    3. Some 3mm Depron foam or some 1/16" balsa wood. I used Depron foam because I had it sitting around. This stuff if used to make micro r/c airplanes out of. You might be able to find it at a hobby shop, but it's probably pretty hard to find if I remember right. So instead, just use 1/16" balsa wood! You can buy this at Michaels or any other craft stores, and it will cost you about $2 for a sheet of it. I wouldn't use anything thicker than about 3/32" as you'll need your filter to be lightweight! (you'll see later ;))



    Make a box:
    Glue 4 pieces together with the hot glue gun to make a box. I made mine about three and a half inches square to fit nicely over my fan. (which is about three and a quarter inches across.)

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    Fill it with filter media:
    I chopped the sheets of carbon to just slightly larger than my box. Then, it just stuffed right in there and didn't need to be secured with anything.

    I made it 5 layers thick: Two layers on top cut from the first filter sheet, two layers on bottom cut from the second, and a layer of chopped up bits cut up from the scraps of the first two filter sheets.


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    Attach it to the fan:

    here comes the fun part!


    Grab your filter and head to the box...
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    Hold it up to the fan really close....
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    and...





    let go!
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    Just let go! :D The suction from the fan just pulls it right up into place and holds it there. You might hear your fan rubbing on the filter, in which case you would have to pull it off and adjust the foam downward until it is no longer rubbing. You might want two fans stacked on top of each other for extra pulling power, that's what I did and it doesn't seem to be cutting down on my airflow too much.

    The odor in my bedroom is now 100% gone! The total materials cost $12 and this is enough for two filters! For $6 and about 10 minutes you can have your odor problem completely under control!
     
  2. I like your DIY carbon filter, but computer fans don't work well under back pressure. When you put your hand on the side of your fan blowing towards you, do you feel a significant amount of air flow?
     
  3. Cool idea but it's a band-aid fix. No way do you have negative pressure in your cab, which is what is necessary to keep it odor free for the entirety of the grow
     
  4. Yeah it didn't cut it down too much. I think that having two fans on top of each other definitely helps with the back pressure issue.

    Well, I'm already in week 7 of the grow, and it stank pretty bad until I put this on, and now the odor is gone entirely.

    I understand what you are saying, and this might not work on something stinkier than my Northern Lights, but it is certainly working for me. When I shut the door on my cab I can hear the fans bog down trying to keep up. Isn't this indicative of negative pressure?

    Regardless, It's working so far. In the weeks to come we'll see if it can keep up.
     
  5. I don't know that what you mentioned is necessarily indicative of negative pressure. What is your exhaust and intake setup in the cabinet? i.e. how many CFMs in versus CFMs out, and approximate air exchange rate in the cab...

    This may very well be a good temp fix and I think you understand that it's not going to be anywhere near permanent, as I can almost guarantee you'll need to replace those filters a few times before the end of the grow...so use it while it lasts and try to save up for a "real" inline exhaust setup.

    IMO the one thing you need "overkill" on with a stealth cabinet is air exchange and odor control...all it takes is one day of missing a filter change when you really need it and your entire house might smell like a dead skunk.
     
  6. #6 DownShift, Apr 21, 2010
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    I'm not sure if this indicates negative pressure either, but it would make sense. My exhaust set up is simply two 80mm exhaust fans mounted in-line with each other, and a passive intake of roughly 100mm square. Running them inline shouldn't increase the CFMs hardly at all, but it should increase the pressure. Even though each fan is only rated at 35 or so CFM, I would argue that Amps are more important when pushing through a filter, and my setup is 1.2 amps at 12v. I have a 120mm fan rated at 50 CFM, and this doesn't blow with nearly as much pressure as these 80mm fans (it runs at 0.3 amps at 12v) The 120mm fan wouldn't be able to suck through these at all even with almost twice the CFM rating.

    My cab is quite small at 18"x12"x24" and my plant doesn't even fill that space properly as I switched to flowering a little earlier than I should have. I am also currently growing Northern Lights, which is pretty low odor. I haven't had any odor control yet, and I'm already only a couple weeks out from harvest.

    Thanks for keepin me on my toes though hehe ;)
     
  7. very sweet. a great solution for you grow op.

    everything looking good in hempy land?
     

  8. Yes sir it is :D
     
  9. I edited the original post because jd4083 was absolutely correct and after only a couple days she's stinkin up the room again. I'm not sure if the filter just wore out really fast, or if she started to smell a lot more in the last couple days, but it's definitely not working like it was when I first installed it. Oh well, it was a cool idea at first :rolleyes:

    +rep to jd4083 for knowing what he's talkin about!
     
  10. damn man, was rootin for ya and hoping to be wrong, but now ya know...better safe than sorry :wave:
     
  11. Yup. I'm only about a week or two away from harvest and as long as I let the smell dissipate every day by cracking a window for a while, I think I'll be OK. I'm going to need a better solution for next time though. You have any ideas for a good solution for a micro sized box like this?

    It seems like a 4" vortex is a bit overkill. I'd also rather not have it sound like there's a 747 taking off in my closet:rolleyes:
     
  12. #13 jd4083, Apr 24, 2010
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    Get a cheap low-cfm 4" inline from HTGS, I think they're in the neighborhood of $120 + shipping for the carbon filter and the fan itself. A fan speed controller is around 20 bucks (for a decent, cheap analog one which is all you need) and using that you can crank it down as far as it will go without messing up your ventilation in the cab and will be considerably quieter. You can also get some baffling material and wrap it around the fan components/ductwork to make the noise level that much lower. Best of luck homie :wave:

    edit- here's a link to the fan/scrubber combo for $120.95 at HTGS

    http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=52531

    and here's a $20 fan speed controller also from HTGS...I haven't used this personally but I've heard nothing but good things about it for the price, and HTGS has always treated me very well

    http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=53142

    peace man
     
  13. I just for the S&P TD-100 in the mail today. I've been told its very quiet and reliable. Just figuring out how to wire the thing now...
     
  14. Thanks for the recommendations guys. I'll definitely have to look into these for my next cab.
     
  15. :wave: any updates man?
     
  16. I made one of these: Bohbo's DIY 4" Carbon Filter <$15

    And against all odds it's working great! I'm still using the 2 80mm fans. It's definitely a bit underpowered, but it's been a few days and there is still 0% odor. Also check my journal out in my sig. I just chopped her down yesterday!
     
  17. Nice work downshift. I am going to add this to my alternate carbon filters on my sticky and move them to the top.
     
  18. Is the filter lightproof??
     
  19. #20 Metapod, Jan 14, 2011
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    Sounds great!

    I wouldn't care if it needed to be replaced often. Its easy, affordable, effective says you, and doesn't need to include any dangerous electrical stunts.

    Its very difficult to locate most of the things that the people on these forums use for odor control where I live. I am also living on an extremely tight budget in a place that doesn't have stores let alone jobs. I can arrange a trip to Michaels though! I already have a fan. I wonder would the filters I use in my fishy tank work? I'll have to look into it!

    Finally I've found the perfect thing for my stealth cabinet!!

    I SMOKE weed, so I am okay with my house smelling like weed. I just don't want it to REEK of weed.

    I don't understand why something as simple as growing ONE plant for your personal enjoyment must involve expensive online buys and meticulous set-ups. As long as it produces something smokable I'll be happy.
     

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