Cannabis Nutrient Disorders Guide

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  1. #1 ImTheJoker4u2, Nov 19, 2009
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    OK so I noticed a lot of people trying to describe their plant problems, and looking for answers. I found this little guide and its helped me out, maybe it can help you too.....
    Keep in mind this is mostly for vegetation stage disorders. Late in flowering, as the plant ages, it will naturally start to change color. This is usually not a sign of a disorder.



    Key on Nutrient Disorders

    To use the Problem-Solver, simply start at #1 below. When you think you've found the problem, read the Nutrients section to learn more about it. Diagnose carefully before
    making major changes.

    1) a) If the problem affects only the bottom or middle of the plant go to #2.
    B) If it affects only the top of the plant or the growing tips, skip to #10. If the problem seems to affect the entire plant equally, skip to #6.

    2) a) Leaves are a uniform yellow or light green; leaves die & drop; growth is slow. Leaf margins are not curled-up noticeably. >> Nitrogen (N) deficiency.
    B) If not, go to #3.

    3) a) Margins of the leaves are turned up, and the tips may be twisted. Leaves are yellowing (and may turn brown), but the veins remain somewhat green. >> Magnesium (Mg) deficiency.
    B) If not, go to #4.

    4) a) Leaves are browning or yellowing. Yellow, brown, or necrotic (dead) patches, especially around the edges of the leaf, which may be curled. Plant may be too tall. >> Potassium (K) deficiency.
    B) If not, keep reading�

    5) a) Leaves are dark green or red/purple. Stems and petioles may have purple & red on them. Leaves may turn yellow or curl under. Leaf may drop easily. Growth may be slow and
    leaves may be small. >> Phosphorous (P) deficiency.
    B) If not, go to #6.

    6) a) Tips of leaves are yellow, brown, or dead. Plant otherwise looks healthy & green. Stems may be soft >> Over-fertilization (especially N), over-watering, damaged roots, or
    insufficient soil aeration (use more sand or perlite. Occasionally due to not enough N, P, or K.
    B) If not, go to #7.

    7) a) Leaves are curled under like a ram's horn, and are dark green, gray,
    brown, or gold. >> Over-fertilization (too much N).
    B) If not, go to #8�

    8) a) The plant is wilted, even though the soil is moist. >>Over-fertilization, soggy soil, damaged roots, disease; copper deficiency (very unlikely).
    B) If not, go to #9.

    9) a) Plants won't flower, even though they get 12 hours of darkness for over 2 weeks. >> The night period is not completely dark. Too much nitrogen. Too much pruning or cloning.
    B) If not, go to #10...

    10) a) Leaves are yellow or white, but the veins are mostly green. >> Iron (Fe) deficiency.
    B) If not, #11.

    11) a) Leaves are light green or yellow beginning at the base, while the leaf
    margins remain green. Necrotic spots may be between veins. Leaves are not twisted. >> Manganese (Mn) deficiency.
    B) If not, #12.

    12) a) Leaves are twisted. Otherwise, pretty much like #11. >> Zinc (Zn)
    deficiency.
    B) If not, #13.

    13) a) Leaves twist, then turn brown or die. >> The lights are too close to the plant. Rarely, a Calcium (Ca) or Boron ( B) deficiency.
    B) If not� You may just have a weak plant.


    Solutions to Nutrient Deficiencies

    The Nutrients:

    Nitrogen - Plants need lots of N during vegging, but it's easy to overdo it. Added too much? Flush the soil with plain water. Soluble nitrogen (especially nitrate) is the form that's the most quickly available to the roots, while insoluble N (like urea) first needs to be broken down by microbes in the soil before the roots can absorb it. Avoid excessive ammonium nitrogen, which can interfere with other nutrients. Too much N delays flowering. Plants should be allowed to become N-deficient late in flowering for best flavor.


    Magnesium - Mg-deficiency is pretty common since cannabis uses lots of it and many fertilizers don't have enough of it. Mg-deficiency is easily fixed with � teaspoon/gallon of Epsom salts (first powdered and dissolved in some hot water) or foliage feed at � teaspoon/quart. When mixing up soil, use 2 teaspoon dolomite lime per gallon of soil for Mg. Mg can get locked-up by too much Ca, Cl or ammonium nitrogen. Don't overdo Mg or you'll lock up other nutrients.


    Potassium - Too much sodium (Na) displaces K, causing a K deficiency. Sources of high salinity are: baking soda (sodium bicarbonate "pH-up"), too much manure, and the use of water-softening filters (which should not be used). If the problem is Na, flush the soil. K can get locked up from too much Ca or ammonium nitrogen, and possibly cold weather.
    Phosphorous - Some deficiency during flowering is normal, but too much shouldn't be tolerated. Red petioles and stems are a normal, genetic characteristic for many varieties, plus it can also be a co-symptom of N, K, and Mg-deficiencies, so red stems are not a foolproof sign of P-deficiency. Too much P can lead to iron deficiency.


    Iron - Fe is unavailable to plants when the pH of the water or soil is too high. If deficient, lower the pH to about 6.5 (for rock wool, about 5.7), and check that you're not adding too much P, which can lock up Fe. Use iron that's chelated for maximum availability. Read your fertilizer's ingredients - chelated iron might read something like "iron ED TA". To much Fe without adding enough P can cause a P-deficiency.


    Manganese - Mn gets locked out when the pH is too high, and when there's too much iron. Use chelated Mn.


    Zinc - Also gets locked out due to high pH. Zn, Fe, and Mn deficiencies often occur together, and are usually from a high pH. Don't overdo the micro-nutrients- lower the pH if that's the problem so the nutrients become available. Foliage feed if the plant looks real bad. Use chelated zinc.
     
    Check Your Water - Crusty faucets and shower heads mean your water is "hard," usually due to too many minerals. Tap water with a TDS (total dissolved solids) level of more than around 200ppm (parts per million) is "hard" and should be looked into, especially if your plants have a chronic problem. Ask your water company for an analysis listing, which will usually list the pH, TDS, and mineral levels (as well as the pollutants, carcinogens, etc) for the tap water in your area.
    This is a common request, especially in this day and age, so it shouldn't raise an eyebrow. Regular water filters will not reduce a high TDS level, but the costlier reverse-osmosis units, distillers, and de-ionizers will.

    A digital TDS
    meter (or EC = electrical conductivity meter) is an incredibly useful tool for monitoring the nutrient levels of nutrient solution, and will pay for itself before you know it. They run about $40 and up.
    General Feeding Tips -
    Pot plants are very adaptable, but a general rule of thumb is to use more nitrogen & less phosphorous during the vegetative period, and the exact opposite during the flowering period. For the veg. period try a N:p:K ratio of about 10:7:8 (which of course is the same ratio as 20:14:16), and for flowering plants, 4:8:8.
    Check the pH after adding nutrients. If you use a reservoir, keep it circulating and change it every 2 weeks.
    A general guideline for TDS levels is as follows:
    seedlings = 50-150 ppm;
    unrooted clones = 100-350 ppm;
    small plants = 400-800 ppm;
    large plants = 900-1800 ppm;
    last week of flowering = taper off to plain water.
    These numbers are just a guideline, and many factors can change the actual level the plants will need. Certain nutrients are "invisible" to TDS
    meters, especially organics, so use TDS level only as an estimate of actual nutrient levels. When in doubt about a new fertilizer, follow the fertilizer's directions for feeding tomatoes. Grow a few tomato or radish plants nearby for comparison.
    PH - The pH of water after adding any nutrients should be around 5.9-6.5
    (in rock wool, 5.5-6.1) .
    Generally speaking, the micro-nutrients (Fe, Zn, Mn, Cu) get locked out at a high pH (alkaline) above 7.0, while the major nutrients (N, P, K, Mg) can be less available in acidic soil or water (below 5.0).
    Tap water is often too alkaline. Soils with lots of peat or other organic matter in them tend to get too acidic, which some dolomite lime will help fix.
    Soil test kits vary in accuracy, and generally the more you pay the better the accuracy. For the water, color-based pH test kits from aquarium stores are inexpensive, but inaccurate. Invest in a digital pH meter ($40-80), preferably a waterproof one. You won't regret it.
    Other Things -
    Cold - Cold weather (below 50F/10C) can lock up phosphorous. Some varieties, like equatorial sativas, don't take well to cold weather. If you can keep the roots warmer, the plant will be able to take cooler
    temps than it otherwise could.
    Heat - If the lights are too close to the plant, the tops may be curled, dry, and look burnt, mimicking a nutrient problem. Your hand should not feel hot after a minute when you hold it at the top of the plants.
    Raise the lights and/or aim a fan at the hot zone. Room temps should be kept under 85F (29C) -- or 90F (33) if you add additional CO2.
    Humidity - Thin, shriveled leaves can be from low humidity. 40-80 % is
    usually fine.
    Mold and fungus - Dark patchy areas on leaves and buds can be mold. Lower the humidity and increase the ventilation if mold is a problem. Remove any dead leaves, wherever they are. Keep your garden clean.
    Insects - White spots on the tops of leaves can mean spider mites
    underneath.
    Sprays - Foliar sprays can have a "magnifying glass" effect under bright
    lights, causing small white, yellow or burnt spots which can be confused with a nutrient problem. Some sprays can also cause chemical reactions.
    Insufficient light - tall, stretching plants are usually from using the wrong kind of light.. Don't use regular incandescent bulbs ("grow bulbs") or halogens to grow cannabis. Invest in fluorescent lighting (good) or HID lighting (much better) which supply the high-intensity light that cannabis needs for good growth and tight buds. Even better, grow in sunlight.
    Clones - yellowing leaves on unrooted clones can be from too much light, or the stem may not be firmly touching the rooting medium. Turn off any CO2 until they root. Too much fertilizer can shrivel or wilt clones - plain tap water is fine.


    Happy Growing
    Joker :smoking:
     
  2. Cannabis Nutrient And Deficiency Guide



    NITROGEN (N) Pale plants, red stems, smaller growth. Rapid yellowing of lower leaves progressing up the plant. Add any chemical fertilizer containing N. Treated plants recover in about a week.

    PHOSPHORUS (P) Slow or stunted growth, red stems. Smaller leaves that are dark green. Lower leaves yellow and die. Add chemical fertilizer containing P. Affected leaves will not show recovery but new growth will apear normal.

    POTASSIUM (K) Affected plants are usually tallest and appear to be most vigorous. Necrotic spots form on lower leaves. Red stems. Leaves appear pale or yellow. Add chemical fertilizer containing K.

    CALCIUM (Ca) Lack of calcium in the soil results in the soil becoming too acid. This leads to Mg or Fe deficiency or very slow stunted growth. Treat by foliar feeding with one teaspoon of dolomatic lime per quart of water until condition improves.

    SULFER (S) Plants suffering from S definciencies exhibit yellowing of new growth. Mix one tablespoon of Epsom salts per gallon of water until condition improves.

    MAGNESIUM (Mg) Lower leaves yellow and may even turn white while veins remain dark green. Blades die and curl upward.

    IRON (Fe) Leaves on growing shoots turn pale and veins remain dark green. pH imbalances make iron insoluble. Foliar feed with chemical fertilizer containing Fe or rusty water.

    MANGANESE (Mn) Necrotic and yellow spots form on top leaves. Mn deficiency occurs when large amounts of Mg are present in the soil. Foliar feed with any chemical fertilizer containing Mn.

    BORON (B) Growing shoots turn grey or die. Growing shoots appear burnt. Treat with one teaspoon of Boric acid (sold as eyewash) per gallon of water.

    MOLYBDENUM (Mb) Yellowing of middle leaves. Foliar feed with chemical fertilizer containing Mb.

    ZINC (Zn) White areas form at leaf tips and between veins. Occurs in alkaline soils. Zn deficiency can be treated by burying galvanized nails in the soil. Chemical fertilizer containing Zn can also be used.

    OVER FERTILIZATION Causes leaf tips to appear yellow or burnt. To correct soil should be flushed with three gallons of water per one gallon of soil.
     
  3. #3 ImTheJoker4u2, Nov 20, 2009
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    Bump?
    No one finds this useful :confused:
     
  4. i did. thanks!
     
  5. Hell yeah, dude. Thanks. I've seen that guide around somewhere, but +rep for bringing all that info home...it's bookmarked now :smoke:
     
  6. I found this to be very useful and saved a copy for myself. It actually helped out a lot tonight to diagnose a possible nutrient lock in my one of my mothers. Hopefully now that I flushed the soil and gave her a leaf spray she'll spring back to the happy green plant she was before.
     
  7. Bump - And thanks guys:)
     
  8. very usefull +rep
     
  9. #9 ImTheJoker4u2, Nov 24, 2009
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    Bump - Still Here :wave: :smoking:
     
  10. To bump or not to bump........[​IMG]
     
  11. Ty for this guide it gave me a better insight about my plant problems. TYVM:hello:
     
  12. #12 ImTheJoker4u2, Dec 6, 2009
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    :cool: Bump Mofos's :cool:
     
  13. Great guide - Thanks!!
    I vote for a stickie:D
     
  14. Great thread, thanks for the info, :)
     
  15. No problem, I was hoping more people would find it useful, but it keeps getting buried:eek:
     
  16. Favorited and printed, great information thanks :)
     
  17. I think this thread deserves another bump :smoke:
     
  18. #18 ImTheJoker4u2, Apr 5, 2010
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    Well its spring time and that means its GROW SEASON!!
    So I figured Id give this thread a bump :hello:
    Good luck and Good Yield
    Joker
     
  19. Nice Info!
     
  20. Bump - Hope it helps:wave::smoking:
     

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