lol, wut? If they don't think that he was innocent with respect to the 9/11 attacks, then why wouldn't they list it as part of the reason why he is wanted? They must have a good reason for not putting there. Perhaps it's because they have no evidence linking bin Laden to the attacks.
That is partially true. He wasn't even there, or close to the crime. Still, this does not mean that they do not think he did it. They'd probably rather get him on something that is easier to prove. Just because he admits he did it, as he as done already, does not mean he'll stick to the story if he gets captured.
You need to look at the evidence for yourself, and come to your own conclusions. I don't have all the answers, but I do have a few questions that you may like to think about. Why won't the media talk about WTC 7 that also collapsed on 9/11? Why are there reports of witnesses hearing countdowns prior to the building collapsing? Why does the collapse look SO similar to a controlled demolition? Why did the mayor of NYC say "We were told that the World Trade Center was going to collapse, and it did collapse before we could actually get out of the building..."? You can hear this audio doing a simple search. He later denied being warned of the collapse. The Pentagon is surrounded by cameras, yet all of the videos were confiscated on 9/11, and the only video released does not clearly show a plane. Why can't they just show us? What are they hiding? Why have several of the named hijackers turned up alive? Why were several Bin Ladens flown out of the U.S. on 9/11 when there was a ban on air travel? Why weren't they questioned? Where were the fighter jets on 9/11? We have them for a reason. Why have there been so many witnesses reporting hearing explosions in the buildings? Why wasn't that mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report? Why did the White House demand a joint Bush/Cheney testimony, demanding that they not be under oath, and demanding that they appear together? Why wasn't President Bush immediately rushed out of that classroom? It was publicized well before the event that he would be there. In the event of a terrorist attack, I would assume it would be standard procedure to whisk the President away to an undisclosed location. Why was he allowed to remain there? Look at photos of the Flight 93 wreck- why doesn't it look like a typical plane crash? Why is there debris literally scattered for miles? Having valid questions concerning 9/11 does not make one a conspiracy theorist. These questions are real, and should not go unanswered.
Damn thank you for showing me this source for further education on this. +rep to you my fellow friend. Fellow blades if you seriously want info on this topic I highly advise you to watch at least the first 5 minutes of that video... What is 5 minutes of your time?
If you want to watch Loose Change, I'd also advise you to read about the lies and deceptions in it. Screw Loose Change: The Top Lies and Deceptions of Loose Change 1-10
THis is quite possible and very true.. I want you to do a bit of research..Who was the CEO of the security system company, in charge of WTC security..and resigned just a few months before september 11th. His name was Jeb Bush..wiring a building of that size would require time, money, and manpower..something al-queda did not have..but private sector security companies with blessings from federal employees could definitely pulled it off.. WTC workers have REPORTED and swore under oath of seeing construction teams warding off completely empty floors, and spending weeks banging, cutting, and using jackhammers..why would repairmen need a jackhammer? maybe to cut into the concrete to lay umm explosives... And I love who you say "it didn't happen like that and virtually nobody here believes that it did except for people from texas." actually, the current percentage of americans who question the officcal 9.11 story is past 60 percent...now im not the best at math, but that definitely constitutes the majority of americans..not just a few..like alex jones..but many..but most people are lost as to where to get untainted facts and evidence, they still dont know what to believe.. I STILL DONT KNOW THE TRUTH..but I do know..that corruption exsists within our government..and they had a hand in 9/11..BUT AS TO WHAT DEGREE?? i hope to find out
I think you're thinking of Marvin Bush. EDIT: And he wasn't the CEO. He was on the board of directors.
We don't get "untainted facts" from opportunists like Alex Jones. I worked in the World Trade Center towers over 20 years ago, and continued to work in the financial district nearby Ground Zero until several years ago. Since 9/11 I have never, not even once, heard anybody here express a belief that those buildings were brought down by anything other than planes that were hijacked - and it's not because we're stupid or don't know any better, it's because there is no reliable evidence that anybody but the hijackers did it. The rumors out there are just not spoken about in NYC, except in very select circles. That "60 percent" figure, is very questionable. Depending on the wording of the questions, I'd probably be included - not because I think the Bush administration did it themselves, but because I'd like to know why we didn't have more airline security in place, and other questions regarding intelligence.
Current and former high-level U.S. officials have recently and publicly stated that the 9/11 attack was not as it seemed. For example: Current U.S. Senator states "The two questions that the congress will not ask . . . is why did 9/11 happen on George Bush's watch when he had clear warnings that it was going to happen? Why did they allow it to happen?" Current Republican Congressman states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on" Current Democratic Congressman hints that we aren't being told the truth about 9/11 \t\t\t\t Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, and who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee, has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job Former Democratic Senator states that he supports a new 9/11 investigation and that we don't know the truth about 9/11 Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (if you suspect he is a closet liberal, take a look at his bio) Former director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions, and who is a Catholic Archbishop stated that 9/11 was an inside job (he also said "If our government had merely done nothing, and allowed normal procedures to happen on that morning of 9/11, the twin towers would still be standing, and thousands of dead Americans would still be alive. [T]hat is treason") Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director, decorated with the Purple Heart, the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal stated that "there is no way that an aircraft . . . would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control ... Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a 'conspiracy Theory' does not change the truth. It seems, 'Something is rotten in the State.'" Former 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer stated that [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/0930852370/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/102-5410351-1934562?ie=UTF8&customer-reviews.sort%5Fby=-SubmissionDate&n=283155"]"9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war"[/ame], and it was probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006). Former high-ranking Reagan official and very influential conservative doubts the official story about 9/11\t\t\t\t\t Former Two-Star general questions the attack on the Pentagon Former Air Force Colonel and key Pentagon official finds various aspects of 9/11 suspicious Former President of the U.S. Air Force Accident Investigation Board, who also served as Pentagon Weapons Requirement Officer and as a member of the Pentagon's Quadrennial Defense Review, and who was awarded Distinguish Flying Crosses for Heroism, four Air Medals, four Meritorious Service Medals, and nine Aerial Achievement Medals, is a member of a group which doubts the government's version of 9/11 Current U.S. Congresswoman, former senior CIA analyst, former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter, former US Ambassador and Chief of Mission to Iraq, former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism, and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (as well as a who's who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11 Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg said that some of the claims concerning government involvement in 9/11 are credible, that "very serious questions have been raised about what they [U.S. government officials] knew beforehand and how much involvement there might have been", that engineering 9/11 would not be humanly or psychologically beyond the scope of the current administration, and that there's enough evidence to justify a new, "hard-hitting" investigation into 9/11 with subpoenas and testimony taken under oath Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice's Inspector General and several senators have called extremely credible (free subscription required), said "If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job \t\t\t\t\tA 28-year career CIA official says 9/11 was an inside job A retired 27-year CIA analyst who prepared and presented Presidential Daily Briefs and served as a high-level analyst for several presidents stated that [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3008938805735782363&hl=en"]there are indications that Cheney ordered a stand down of the military on 9/11[/ame] \t\t\t\t Former FBI agent says [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1956542165192088795&hl=en"]"The FBI, rather than trying to prevent a terrorist attack, was merely gathering intelligence so they would know who to arrest when a terrorist attack occurred."[/ame] Former air traffic controller, who knows the flight corridor which the two planes which hit the Twin Towers flew "like the back of my hand" and who handled two actual hijackings says that 9/11 could not have occurred as the government says, and that planes can be tracked on radar even when their transponders are turned off (also, listen to [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9147890225218338952"]this interview[/ame]) Former 6-year Inspector General, U.S. Department of Transportation and former Professor of Aviation, Dept. of Aerospace Engineering and Aviation says "the [9/11] commission is clearly not talking to everybody or not telling us everything .... Huge discrepancies persist in basic facts .... when we heard the carriers and governments alike saying, “Oh, no one could have foreseen this. No one knew that this was coming. No one knew that there was any risk like this in the world,†is absolutely false.... The Group Director on matters of national security in the U.S. Government Accountability Office said that President Bush did not respond to unprecedented warnings of the 9/11 disaster and conducted a massive cover-up instead of accepting responsibility \tFormer ambassador to Iraq is not satisfied with the official story Numerous high-level legal scholars question the official version of 9/11. As do numerous military leaders. And many officials from allied governments have also questioned 9/11: Statement by former President of Italy Statements by former German Defense Minister and current member of British Parliament Statement by former Canadian Minister of Defense Statements of two former MI5 (British intelligence) agents (19 minutes into video) Statement of a high-ranking general and the former chief of NATO regarding bombs in the Twin Towers (in Danish) Statement by the commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force; and see also statement of former chief of staff of the Russian armed forces \t\t\t \t\t\t And see this easy-to-read website for additional high-level officials. NEXT: But no one could imagine crashing planes into buildings Whether or not you believe that governments carry out "false flag" terror, you might reasonably assume that the 9/11 Commission investigated September 11th, and concluded that Osama Bin Laden and his group of terrorists were solely responsible. Unfortunately, a quick look at the government's investigations reveals that -- not only has there never been a real investigation -- but the behavior of government representatives in willfully obstructing all attempts at investigation comprises evidence of guilt. Specifically, in all criminal trials, evasiveness, obstruction, and destruction of evidence all constitute strong circumstantial evidence that the accused is guilty or, at the very least, not to be believed. 9/11 is no different. For example, the former director of the FBI says there was a cover up by the 9/11 Commission. And the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn't bother to tell the American people (free subscription required). Indeed, the co-chairs of the Commission now admit that the Commission largely operated based upon political considerations. 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only "the first draft" of history. 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ." 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting" Former 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up". The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission, who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry, said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true." But let's back up and look at the 9/11 Commission in more detail. Preliminarily, President Bush and Vice-President Cheney took the rare step of personally requesting that congress limit all 9/11 investigation solely to "intelligence failures", so there has never been a congressional probe into any of the real issues involved. The administration also opposed the creation of a 9/11 commission. Once it was forced, by pressure from widows of 9-11 victims, to allow a commission to be formed, the administration appointed as executive director an administration insider, whose area of expertise is the creation and maintenance of "public myths" thought to be true, even if not actually true, who was involved in pre-9/11 intelligence briefings, and who was one of the key architects of the "pre-emptive war" doctrine. This executive director, who controlled what the Commission did and did not analyze, then limited the scope of the Commission's inquiry so that the overwhelming majority of questions about 9/11 remained unasked (see this article and this article). The administration then starved the commission of funds, providing a fraction of the funds used to investigate Monica Lewinsky, failed to provide crucial documents (and see this article also), refused to share much information with the Commission, refused to require high-level officials to testify under oath, and allowed Bush and Cheney to be questioned jointly. More importantly, the 9-11 Commission refused to examine virtually any evidence which contradicted the administration's official version of events. As stated by the State Department's Coordinator for Counterterrorism, who was the point man for the U.S. government's international counterterrorism policy in the first term of the Bush administration, "there were things the [9/11] commission wanted to know about and things they didn't want to know about." For example, the 9-11 Commission report fails to mention the CIA director's urgent warnings to top administration officials in July 2001 of an impending attack (indeed, the 9-11 Commission was briefed on these warnings, but denied they knew about them until confronted with contrary evidence). Moreover, numerous veteran national security experts were turned away, ignored, or censored by the 9/11 commission, even though they had information directly relevant to the commission's investigation. And the 9/11 Commission Report does not even mention the collapse of World Trade Center building 7 or any explosions in the buildings (the word "explosion" does not appear in the report). There are literally hundreds of other examples of entire lines of evidence which contradict the government's account which were ignored by the Commission. A very [ame="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1566565847/qid=1120623441/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_ur_1/103-5910915-8313462?v=glance&s=books&n=507846"]well-documented book [/ame]by a distinguished professor shows that the 9-11 Commission was a whitewash. According to law professor Richard Falk of Princeton, the author of this book "establishes himself, alongside Seymour Hersh, as America's number one bearer of unpleasant, yet necessary, public truths" (Seymour Hersh, as you might know, is the Pulitzer prize-winning reporter who uncovered the Iraq prison torture scandal). See [ame="http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404"]a synopsis of the book here[/ame]; and a summary of a portion of the book [ame="http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20051205150219651"]here[/ame]. Indeed, the very 9-11 widows who had pressured the administration to create the 9/11 Commission now "question the veracity of the entire Commission's report", and have previously declared it a failure which ignored 70% of their detailed questions and "suppressed important evidence and whistleblower testimony that challenged the official story on many fronts". Moreover, the former head of the fire science and engineering division of the agency now investigating the world trade center disaster, who is a professor of fire protection engineering, wrote that the world trade center buildings could not have collapsed due to jet fuel fires, that evidence was being destroyed, and that there was no real investigation into the collapses. He has called for a new investigation. And a leading firefighters' trade publication called the investigation concerning the world trade center a "half-baked farce". In addition, the official investigators themselves were largely denied funding, access to the site and the evidence contained there, or even access to such basic information as the blueprints for the world trade center. Indeed, the blueprints for the world trade center are apparently STILL being withheld from reporters and the public, and the government agency in charge of the investigation has grossly mischaracterized the structure of the buildings. And the government agency tasked with examining the collapse of the World Trade Centers did NOT investigate any anomalies in the collapse of the buildings, failing to even examine any of the following evidence: the buildings' impossible near free-fall speeds and symmetrical collapses; the unexplained fact that the core of the North Tower failed first; the apparent demolition squibs; the fact that the buildings turned to dust in mid-air; the presence of molten metal in the basement areas in large pools in all of the buildings; the unexplained presence of unusual compounds in the steel; the unexplained swiss-cheese like holes in the steel; and the unexplained straightening out of the upper 34 floors of the South Tower after they had precipitously leaned over and started toppling like a tree. Indeed, an article from a respected civil engineering trade journal states: "World Trade Center disaster investigators are refusing to show computer visualizations [i.e. models] of the collapse of the Twin Towers despite calls from leading structural and fire engineers". The article goes on to state "a leading U.S. structural engineer said 'By comparison [to the modeling of fires] the global structural model is not as sophisticated' . . . The software used has been pushed to new limits, and there have been a lot of simplifications, extrapolations and judgement calls . . . it would be hard to produce a definitive visualization from the analysis so far.'â€. In other words, the government refused to release a visual model of the collapses, and even the non-visual computer models which the government used to examine why the trade centers collapsed are faulty. The same journal points out that "Some engineers . . . have accused NIST of repeatedly changing its explanation of the collapse mechanism." See also this question and answer exchange at a recent government press conference (skip to 1 minute and 23 seconds into the video). And this short video on building 7 and the subsequent investigation (you may wish to disregard brief partisan portion). And did you know that investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House? Or that a former FBI translator who Senators Leahy and Grassley, among others, have claimed is credible, and who the administration has gagged for years without any logical basis -- has stated that "this administration knowingly and intentionally let many directly or indirectly involved in that terrorist act [September 11th] go free – untouched and uninvestigated"? Or have you heard that the FBI long ago found and analyzed the "black box" recorders from the airplanes which hit the Twin Towers, but has consistently denied that they were ever found? Or did you know that the tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times? And amazingly, many years after the FBI stated it did not have sufficient evidence to prosecute Bin Laden for 9/11, that agency apparently still does not have hard evidence linking Bin Laden to the crime. Still think the government really investigated and disclosed what happened on 9/11? Indeed, there are even indications that false evidence may have been planted to deflect attention from the real perpetrators.
^^ this guy has his shit STACKED! whoever did 9/11, us or terrorists, is seriously fucked up in the head. I can only imagine what it was like seeing a fucking jumbo jet flying straight at me a few hundred feet in the air. no wonder so many people jumped
^^^^ Haha I'd say checkmate. It only took video of the blast of the building falling floor by floor obviously by some sort of planted explosives to convince me.
There were no "blasts" loud, and/or numerous, enough to indicate planted explosives capable of bringing down One and Two World Trade Center. It just didn't happen that way - and if anybody says it did, they're in a very small minority compared to a large amount of eyewitnesses on the scene who didn't hear such things. The whole damn southern tip of Manhattan, and beyond, would have heard it - but as we know they didn't.
Firefighters, law enforcement officers, and other extremely credible witnesses have also discredited the Administration's version of why the world trade center buildings collapsed on 9/11: Reporter for USA Today stated that the FBI believed that bombs in the buildings brought the buildings down [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7094370627958457222&hl=en"]NY Fire Department Chief of Safety stated there were "bombs" and "secondary devices", which caused the explosions in the buildings (video)[/ame]; or high-quality audio here NYC firefighters who witnessed attacks stated that it looked like there were bombs in the buildings NYC firefighter stated "On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there was bombs set in the building" NYC firefighter stated there was a [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928"]"bomb in the building ... start clearing out"[/ame] Dying heroes, the first responders who worked tirelessly to save lives on and after 9/11, say that [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1855050994689354420&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en"]controlled demolition brought down the Twin Towers[/ame] MSNBC reporter stated that police had found a suspicious device "and they fear it could be something that might lead to another explosion" and the police officials believe "that one of the explosions at the world trade center . . . may have been caused by a van that was parked in the building that may have had some kind of explosive device in it, so their fear is that there may have been explosive devices planted either in the building or in the adjacent area" NYC firefighter stated "the south tower . . . exploded . . . At that point a debate began to rage because the perception was that the building looked like it had been taken out with charges . . . many people had felt that possibly explosives had taken out 2 World Trade" (pages 6 & 7) Assistant Fire Commissioner stated “I thought . . . before . . . No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. . . . I . . . saw a flash flash flash . . . [at] the lower level of the building [not up where the fire was]. You know like when they . . . blow up a building ... ?" -- and a lieutenant firefighter the Commissioner spoke with independently verified the flashes (see possible explanation below)(when, as here, there are no page numbers in the original firefighter transcript, you can locate the text using the "find" function in your web browser) A firefighter said “[T]here was just an explosion. It seemed like on television [when] they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.†Another firefighter stated "it almost sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight" (page 4; original is .pdf; Google's webpage version is here) Paramedic said "at first I thought it was -- do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear pop pop pop pop pop -- thats exactly what because thought it was" (page 9) Police officer noted "People were saying, 'There's another one and another one.' I heard reports of secondary bomb explosions . . ." (page 61, which is page 3 of a hand-written memorandum) Firefighter stated "there was an explosion in the south tower, which . . . just blew out in flames . . . One floor under another after another and when it hit about the fifth floor, I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I was there in '93" (referring to 1993 bombing of world trade center; pages 3 & 4) A firefighter stated "it looked like sparkling around one specific layer of the building . . . Then the building started to come down. My initial reaction was that this was exactly the way it looks when they show you those implosions on TV." Officer in the New Jersey Fire Police Department who was previously a sergeant in the U.S. Army, said about the south tower: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0028644220/002-7168646-8424844?v=glance&n=283155"]“t sounded like bombs going off. That's when the explosions happened. . . . I knew something was going to happen. . . . It started to get dark, then all of a sudden there was this massive explosion.†Then, discussing her experiences during the collapse of the north tower, she said: “[There was] another explosion. That sent me and the two firefighters down the stairs. . . . I can't tell you how many times I got banged around. Each one of those explosions picked me up and threw me. . . . There was another explosion, and I got thrown with two firefighters out onto the street.†[/ame] (pages 65-66, 68) Dan Rather said that collapse was "reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen [when]a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite to knock it down" (CNN's Aaron Brown and a Fox News reporter also made similar comments) British newspaper stated "some eyewitnesses reported hearing another explosion just before the structure crumbled. Police said that it looked almost like a 'planned implosion' " Peter Jennings stated "anyone who has ever watched a building being demolished on purpose knows that if you're going to do this you have to get at the under-infrastructure of the building to bring it down" A reporter for WNYC radio said [ame="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0742523160/102-8330725-1990556?v=glance"]"The reporters were trying to figure out what had happened. We were thinking bombs had brought the buildings down[/ame][ame="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0742523160/102-8330725-1990556?v=glance"]"[/ame](page 203 of Running Toward Danger: Stories Behind The Breaking News of 9/11) A Wall Street Journal reporter said [ame="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0742523160/102-8330725-1990556?v=glance"]"I heard this metallic roar, looked up and saw what I thought was just a peculiar site of individual floors, one after the other exploding outward. I thought to myself, "My God, they're going to bring the building down." And they, whoever they are, HAD SET CHARGES . . . . I saw the explosions"[/ame] (page 87) A facilities manager in the north tower "was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons" Indeed, Larry Silverstein, the leaseholder of the World Trade Center, said in a PBS documentary that Building 7 was "pulled" on September 11th. "Pulling" is a construction industry term for "intentionally demolishing", as shown in this PBS interview discussing the demolition of world trade center building 6 many weeks after 9/11. Moreover, there is evidence that substantial explosions occurred well BELOW the area impacted by the planes, and -- according to some witnesses -- they occurred BEFORE the plane had hit: Prior to Plane Hit 9/11 hero, who was the last person out of the north tower, said that there was a massive explosion in the North Tower BEFORE the plane hit (see also this interview) Assistant Chief Engineer at the World Trade Center arrived on the 38th floor of the North Tower before the plane hit, got out of the elevator, and about 50 feet down the hallway, he heard a loud explosion and was lifted into the air. "I can't even tell you how far I traveled," he recalled. When he landed, people were already coming out of their offices into the hallway . . .Upon reaching the 43rd floor, "there were patches of ceiling that was just down on the floor, water pipes were broken, water was gushing like a brook or river that was just running down the corridor of the machine room." Maintenance worker who worked in the basement of north tower witnessed an explosion in the basement at around the same time the plane hit far above Two other eyewitnesses working in the Twin Towers witnesssed explosions in the basement at about the same time the plane hit (See also this article arguing that seismic evidence corrorborates the eyewitness testimony). Other Testimony of Explosions Below the Impact Zone Stationary engineer who worked in world trade center one described tremendous damage in the basement of the building more consistent in nature and timing with a bomb than with damage from jet fuel: "'There was nothing there but rubble . . . We're talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press-gone!'. . . They then went to the parking garage, but found that it was also gone. Then on the B level, they found that a steel-and-concrete fire door, which weighed about 300 pounds, was wrinkled up 'like a piece of aluminum foil.' Having seen similar things after the terrorist attack in 1993, [he] was convinced that a bomb had gone off." NYC firefighter stated “It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit. . . [W]e originally had thought there was like an internal detonation, explosives, because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down.†Firefighter said "this, huge incredible force of wind and debris actually came UP the stairs, knocked my helmet off, knocked me to the ground" Firefighter stated "my lieutenant said he looked down at the first floor, and he could see the first floor of the south tower like exploding out" Firefighter said "I was distracted by a large explosion from the south tower and it seemed like fire was shooting out a couple of hundred feet in each direction, then all of a sudden the top of the tower started coming down in a pancake . . . It appeared somewhere below [the area where the plane had hit]. Maybe twenty floors below the impact area of the plane" (pages 3 & 4) Similarly, employee of an insurance company in south tower heard an explosion from BELOW the impact of the airplane, an "exploding sound" shook the building, a tornado of hot air, smoke and ceiling tiles and bits of drywall came flying UP the stairwell, and the wall split from the bottom UP A fire department batallion chief stated "it actually looked -- the lowest floor of fire in the south tower actually looked like someone had planted explosives around it because the whole bottom I could see (redacted) I could see two sides of it and the other side, it just looked like that floor blew out" (what was in the redacted portion?) CBS News reporter stated "All of a sudden I heard a roar and I saw one of the towers blow ... I saw from street level as though it exploded up, a giant rolling ball of flame...". (same reporter stated [ame="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0742523160/102-8330725-1990556?v=glance"]"I hear simultaneously this roar and see what appears to be a gigantic fireball rising up at ground level . . . I remember seeing this giant ball of fire come out of the earth as I heard this roar"[/ame] (pages 119 & 239)) An eyewitness reported a large explosion at ground level right before the collapse of the North Tower Police Officer described events which occurred inside Tower One after the second plane hit and well before that tower collapsed: "We went back up to the sixth floor . . . . Then there was an eerie silence and it was like you knew something was going to happen. There just seemed to be one explosion after another. I was separated from the guys from the bridge . . . by another explosion, massive again, sucking the air out of your lungs and then just a wind more intense this time with larger pieces of debris flying." (pages 94 & 95, which is page 2 & 3 of a hand-written memorandum) BBC reporter stated "Then, an hour later, we had that big explosion, from much much lower [well below the plane impact]. I don't know what on earth caused that". Firefighter describes elevators "blown off the hinges" which only went to lower floors (page 7)(Note: this statement about the elevators still needs to be verified) A janitor witnessed explosions in the sub-basement A carpenter witnessed explosions in the sub-basement A Port Authority Police Department officer, who was intimately familiar with the World Trade Center from his years of police duties patrolling there, described how the hallway began to shudder as a "terrible deafening roar" swept over him, then a giant fireball exploded in the street seconds before the south tower collapsed Firefighters discovered that the lobby of one of the twin towers suffered explosive damage with blown-out windows Firefighter stated "the Maydays started coming in to vacate the north tower . . . we started going down. At that point, we proceeded down . . . Made it down to the lobby. There were about maybe 30 firefighters that were with us. Made it to the lobby, and the lobby was like a war zone. All the windows were blown out, and the command post wasn't there. We made it to the corner of West and Vesey when the building came down." (pages 5 & 6) A WTC survivor said [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IqSsTmWv7k&eurl="]"We get to the 8th floor. Big Explosion. Blew us back into the eighth floor."[/ame] Another survivor [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IqSsTmWv7k&eurl=="]experienced an explosion in the mezzanine of the tower[/ame] Another survivor [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IqSsTmWv7k&eurl=="]experienced an explosion in the lobby[/ame] World trade center employee stated "the bottom of our building was blown out" Paramedic "heard ground level explosions" (page 29) Detective for the Port Authority reported, long before the collapse of the tower, "When we reached the 15th floor, the building began to vibrate and shake. I heard loud explosions and rumblings in the background. The stairwell shifted and gave out a large metal on metal groan. The stairwell then twisted back into place with another loud groan. The lights went out. At that point the stairwell became filled with smoke and dust." (pages 58 & 59, which is page 2 & 3 of a memo from the Office of Inspector General) A police report states World Trade Center "Police Desk reporting an explosion on the lower level" 8 minutes after plane crash (page 17, which is page 2 of the Chronological Report of the WTC Radio Transmissions on 9/11/01) Construction worker discusses explosions in the sub-basement of tower 1; same worker talks about explosions in the basements of tower 2 See also witness statements here How could the fire damage from airplanes or their jet fuel have caused such extensive explosions over so many floors over such a long timeframe below the airplane impacts? Do you remember that most of the fuel spilled outside of the towers in those dramatic fireballs, and the rest supposedly lit the paper, rugs and other office contents of the twin towers on fire? Given these facts, how could fires or jet fuel have caused the events described above by credible eyewitnesses? In addition, there are many eyewitness accounts of phenomena consistent with the use of explosives in the world trade center buildings: Paramedic captain stated "somewhere around the middle of the world trade center there was this orange and red flash coming out initially it was just one flash then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode the popping sound and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as could see these popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger going both up and down and then all around the building" (pdf file; Google's web version is here). Compare this authenticated tape of a controlled demolition by a leading demolition company -- can you see the orange and red flashes on the near side of the building? How about at the base of this building, the Kingdome? Both of these tapes are posted at the "World Records" section of Controlled Demolition, Inc.'s website) Police officer stated "you would hear a loud boom go off at the top of tower one. As the building continued to burn and emergency equipment kept on responding stirring up the dust and debris in the streets. After approximately 15 minutes suddenly there was another loud boom at the upper floors, then there was a series of smaller explosions which appeared to go completely around the building at the upper floors. And another loud earth-shattering blast with a large fire ball which blew out more debris and at that point everyone began to run north on West Broad Street." (page 5, which is page 2 of a hand-written memorandum)(what caused loud explosions many minutes apart, a series of smaller explosions going "completely around the building", and a "large fire ball"?) Chief of NY Fire Department (Citywide Tour Commander) said "there was what appeared to be at first an explosion. It appeared at the very top, simultaneously from all four sides, materials shot out horizontally. And then there seemed to be a momentary delay before you could see the beginning of the collapse" (page 4) (why was material shooting out from all four side before the collapse?) Police officer stated "we kept hearing explosions that would shake the whole room" Police sergeant said "Within a short period of time (approximately ¾ of an hour) one of the buildings to the World Trade Center collapsed. During this time period there were numerous explosions, causing us to leave and re-enter the incident area" (page 88, which is page 1 of a memorandum) Fire department batallion chief said "You could see the windows pop out just like in the picture, looked like a movie. I saw one floor of windows pop out, like poof, poof. I saw one and a half floors popout. It looked almost like an explosion" (pages 7 & 8) Firefighter stated "the collapse hadn't begun, but it was not a fire any more up there. It was like -- it was like that -- like smoke explosion on a tremendous scale going on up there" (page 17)(what caused the "smoke explosion on a tremendous scale" before the collapse?) Fire chief from a nearby town heard a "high-pitched noise and a popping noise" right before the collapse of the South Tower MSNBC reporter stated "I heard a second explosion ... And then a fire marshal came in and said we had to leave, because if there was a third explosion this building might not last". The same reporter stated that the force of the explosion overturned cars and set them on fire Paramedic said “Shortly before the first tower came down, I remember feeling the ground shaking. I heard a terrible noise, and then debris just started flying everywhere. People started running" (pages 5 & 6) (why was there ground shaking before the collapse?) Same paramedic stated "by the time the debris settled from the first collapse we started to walk back east towards west street and few minutes later – really don't remember the time frames because we were so busy in trying to account for who was in the staging area and who wasn't we basically had the same thing the ground shook again and we heard another terrible noise and the next think we knew the second tower was coming down and again we were running for our lives . . . . ." (pages 6 & 7)(why did the ground shake before the start of the "terrible noise" of the collapse?) Reporter mentioned explosion and the fact that "the whole building bellied out" (why did the building "belly out", as opposed to falling over?) CNN producer stated "every few minutes you'll hear like a small sort of a rumbling sound, almost like an explosion sound and another chunk of it will come flying down into the street"; same producer stated "there was just a huge ... [explosion? word apparently erased from original CNN video] and enormous pieces of debris just falling - one right after the other" (what caused the "rumbling sounds" and the chunks flying down every couple of minutes) Highly-reputable astrophysicist wrote in an email that, immediately before the collapse of each of the twin towers, he heard explosions and low-frequency rumbles (he also uses the phrase "demolition-style implosion") A witness said that, right before the collapse of one of the towers, [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1375208054676470714"] "It sounded as if you had a hundred . . . firecrackers and you lit them all off at once . . . it sounded like the finale of the 4th of July over the East River"[/ame] (15:21 into the video)(what caused this sound like a hundred firecrackers?) Unknown witness interviewed on television stating "it sounded like gunfire . . . . bang bang bang bang bang . . . and then three big explosions" Further testimony from firefighters can be found here and from other witnesses [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7094370627958457222&hl=en"] here[/ame]. Cynical about this topic because it would have been impossible to plant explosives in the World Trade Center? Good, read this. See also this short comparison of the collapse of WTC7 with a verified demolition; this overview of trade center building 7; this short essay on Building 7; these tape recordings of firefighters showing that they thought fires in the south tower were small and easily containable, even immediately before the collapse; this short video discussion on collapses; and compare this footage of a controlled demolition and also this footage of controlled demolition with this footage of the start of the collapse of tower 1 (it is also interesting how the world trade centers are pulverized in mid-air into massive dust clouds, similar to controlled demolitions); this short essay citing numerous eyewitness reports of molten metal under the World Trade Center buildings long after their collapse; this contest offering a million dollars to anyone who can prove that the trade centers were brought down without explosives; and this video containing additional evidence (made by a 21-year old, so you'll have to ignore the music; also contains some speculative opinions by the filmmaker).
Can't talk sense to 9/11 troofers, lol. They just throw a ton of shit on the wall and hope that some of it sticks. The people who are saying that the Twin Towers were brought down by demolition suggest that many tons of explosives were smuggled into the buildings and set off. If an M-80 firecracker, which has a tiny fraction of the amount of powder that a stick of dynamite has, can be heard for a quarter mile can you imagine what 10 tons, much less 100, of heavy explosives would have sounded like? It would have been heard in Brooklyn, Staten Island, the Bronx, New Jersey, and possibly even Long Island. This was obviously not the case. But, as I said you can't talk sense to troofers.
If you think because we attempt to figure out the truth of 9/11 we lack sense..then your arrogance is truly blinding you.. but everyone did hear loud booms and crashes..obviously you didnt even look at what i posted.. but im gunna use your logic here, maybe you might see the flaw in your argument "cant talk sense into 9/11 debunkers" i just love how debunkers get this odd sense of power that they somehow proved with science and facts that they are right..just seems like a childish thing..but hey its your boat, you float it.. so..i guess all these new yorkers are stupid, foolish, and lack sense then eh? but i guess 80,000 makes you a minority..lmao Oh and thanks for being real mature in this debate by resorting to namecalling since you couldnt come up with a damn shred of evidence to prove the contrary, besides your own structured opinion.
Of course there were some explosions on 9/11 - two huge, fuel-filled, planes crashed into buildings and a number of explosions would have been impossible to prevent - but nothing of the magnitude that numerous tons of explosives would have sounded like. You have also misquoted me. I did not use the term "9/11 debunkers". But that's not surpirsing, considering that all of the premises of the 9/11 truth movement are built on misquotes, opportunistic motives and outright lies. 80,000 people, even if they are living in the boundaries of NYC (which I doubt), is only one percent of the population of the City. Sounds like a minority to me.