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Soft black hash
#1
Posted 31 May 2009 - 11:51 PM
I have been making hash using bubble bags (cold water-ice extraction), scraping the screens then pressing these scrapings and letting dry on cardboard. Once dried the hash turns rock hard. What can I do to keep it soft or prepare it into the soft black hash?
#2
Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:17 AM
#3
Posted 01 June 2009 - 12:41 AM

This is Quick Wash ISO hash, using what was left after I processed the kief from it (Using a silkscreen). Just a 15 second wash in some 99.9% Isopropyl Alcohol, through some silkscreen material sewn into a bag (bubble bags work great!), and about 2 hours in the sun under a fan, and all the ISO is gone! scrape, scrape, scrape, a little kief to keep it from sticking to the fingers, and viola! Glorious Hash!
Turns hard when it's cold, but hit it with a lighter and it turns to butter.
#4
Posted 13 August 2009 - 12:17 AM
But anyway I was told you make it with leftover crystals & alcohol, I'll try to get more info.
#5
Posted 14 August 2009 - 05:15 PM
#6
Posted 11 November 2009 - 01:53 AM
#7
Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:13 AM
I have been making hash using bubble bags (cold water-ice extraction), scraping the screens then pressing these scrapings and letting dry on cardboard. Once dried the hash turns rock hard. What can I do to keep it soft or prepare it into the soft black hash?
You should try pressing or working the hash.
The mechanical action breaks up the trichomes and releases the oils, making it softer. The oxidation of the oils once the trichomes have ruptured is what causes it to darken, first going a sort of chocolate brown and eventually turning black.
#8
Posted 14 November 2009 - 12:25 PM
#9
Posted 02 July 2010 - 06:23 PM
If your hash is QWISO (and with 2 grades like that, it could very well be), the 'black' that was in your hash was probably a combination of the chlorophyll pigments and the leaf waxes that were extracted along side the THC with the iso wash.
Exact consistency is tough because you can't precisely balance what will be extracted (without the right equipment).
My method has been excellent at getting me blond hash, and I've been able to get some good "soft black hash" by adding back a little bit of the waste alcohol before purging, though i prefer the blond as it's a cleaner taste and there's fewer combustibles.
Check out the "Frost Hash" in my signature, it shows the wastes that are being removed. Add some back in, and you've got your soft black.
There's a fine line between good brown flex hash and black gunk tar hash, and a big difference in quality of smoke.
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Temperature and moisture also change the texture. Working it with your fingers will warm it up and soften in, so will stretching. HortoFTW is right as well, exposure to air will oxidize some of the material and turn it dark, just like an avocado, only slower.
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If your bubble material is getting rock solid, you are getting too much waste through the bottom, my suggestion is once you've done the initial extraction, take out the pulp and refilter your hash. The mechanics of the bubble bag system allow for a lot of plant matter to become similar size and sink with the trichs.
Edited by GrapeStreet, 02 July 2010 - 06:34 PM.
#10
Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:38 PM
It's likely it was the keif the guy had but it was pressed. Dry sift (keif) tends to yield a quite malleable end product when pressed, but so does every other method of making hash depending on how you do it.
It's impossible to tell, really.
Edited by Full Melt, 02 July 2010 - 10:42 PM.
#11
Posted 02 July 2010 - 10:40 PM
#12
Posted 02 July 2010 - 11:56 PM
I clicked a "related thread" at the bottom of a thread, didn't think to look at the date.
Still, it's a decent topic. I've been thinking about consistency of the hash consistency.
Anyone have any other ideas as to how to change the physical characteristics of hash?
Edited by GrapeStreet, 02 July 2010 - 11:59 PM.
#13
Posted 03 July 2010 - 02:13 AM
Too bad. Hope the guy figured it out.
I clicked a "related thread" at the bottom of a thread, didn't think to look at the date.
Still, it's a decent topic. I've been thinking about consistency of the hash consistency.
Anyone have any other ideas as to how to change the physical characteristics of hash?
gotcha. it is a good topic though, it seems like there has been a couple recently about the consistency of hash. i dont have any logic or anything, but for some reason i feel like the shallower the pan is for QWISO hash the harder it would get since theres more surface area when the qwiso evaporated?? i dunno, scientifically i cant think of a reason that would work, but its gotten in my head for some reason. just some food for thought. i dont have too much real world knowledge on the other kinds of hash
#14
Posted 03 July 2010 - 05:53 AM
gotcha. it is a good topic though, it seems like there has been a couple recently about the consistency of hash. i dont have any logic or anything, but for some reason i feel like the shallower the pan is for QWISO hash the harder it would get since theres more surface area when the qwiso evaporated?? i dunno, scientifically i cant think of a reason that would work, but its gotten in my head for some reason. just some food for thought. i dont have too much real world knowledge on the other kinds of hash
Yeah, I've been working on removing as much wax and chlorophyll as possible to keep it from going 'black' and hard. So far so good, though I haven't gotten to press it yet, so we'll see.
Check out the 'frost hash' post I've got goin.
#15
Posted 20 September 2010 - 08:27 AM
Hey if u bubble bag ur hash let it dry for 3-4 days then kneed it Into itself and cure it for a good couple weeks but keep working it into itself over and over it becomes a nice dark soft or putty type of hash very nice to see and smoke!!! That's how I accomplish that with my hashQWISO is harmelss as long as it's purged right. Any signs of vapor or dampness and it should be left out to evaporate the rest of the alcohol.
If your hash is QWISO (and with 2 grades like that, it could very well be), the 'black' that was in your hash was probably a combination of the chlorophyll pigments and the leaf waxes that were extracted along side the THC with the iso wash.
Exact consistency is tough because you can't precisely balance what will be extracted (without the right equipment).
My method has been excellent at getting me blond hash, and I've been able to get some good "soft black hash" by adding back a little bit of the waste alcohol before purging, though i prefer the blond as it's a cleaner taste and there's fewer combustibles.
Check out the "Frost Hash" in my signature, it shows the wastes that are being removed. Add some back in, and you've got your soft black.
There's a fine line between good brown flex hash and black gunk tar hash, and a big difference in quality of smoke.
--
Temperature and moisture also change the texture. Working it with your fingers will warm it up and soften in, so will stretching. HortoFTW is right as well, exposure to air will oxidize some of the material and turn it dark, just like an avocado, only slower.
--
If your bubble material is getting rock solid, you are getting too much waste through the bottom, my suggestion is once you've done the initial extraction, take out the pulp and refilter your hash. The mechanics of the bubble bag system allow for a lot of plant matter to become similar size and sink with the trichs.
#16
Posted 20 September 2010 - 09:01 AM
I like the old stuff that is rubbed right off of the growing plants...Im thinking about trying that one of these seasons real soon...
#17
Posted 22 September 2010 - 01:51 AM
#18
Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:15 AM
#19
Posted 28 June 2012 - 07:25 AM
#20
Posted 29 June 2012 - 12:15 AM
This guy knows how to make "bubblebag" hash. Known around here as "solventless" concentrates or waxes.
Here's his tips (along with the best BHO guy in town talkin about the solvent extracts)
Westword: Highly Concentrated - Tips for better hash from Colorado's Best
And this is one of his extracts that just won 1st Place a the Denver Cannabis Cup for Solventless category...
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